Dargo2

>Kind of taking a chance, weren't you Dargo2? What if missw said yes and then turned out to be a mrw? Now that would have been a real less than colorful ending. Well infinte1, in a case like THAT, and not that I WOULD, but I suppose I COULD have always used the line the fella on the left with the big wide mouth says here, RIGHT???!!! LOL

Eeh, you bunch o' C'mon now, and like you even admit about the "quality" of SOME of the made-for-TV movies here musicalnovelty, I ask you...would you rather sit through ANOTHER showing of a bunch of "Ma and Pa Kettle" movies OR give people the opportunity to watch QUALITY films such as "QB VII" or "Special Bulletin" just ONE day of the week, OR maybe just even one DAY of the MONTH??? (...now think REAL hard here, 'cause I know your inclinations are to think the "slippery slope" argument and that TCM will soon turn into some kind of "TV Land" thing, but I REALLY don't think it has or WOULD ever go THAT direction by just OCCASIONALLY showcasing the best of the best Made-for-TV movies and miniseries ever made!)

Yeah! Another great group, dpompper! I wonder what Byrne has been up to lately?

Naaah, now HERE'S ya some lyrics, duuuuuuuude!: Hate New York City It's cold and it's damp And all the people dressed like monkeys Let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos That town's a little bit too rugged For you and me, you bad girl (...oh and yeah, I WAS wonderin' what the heck "platic" meant...I see you changed it)

Nope. Mike Myers wasn't in "Sunset Avenue". (..nor "Sunset Blvd", for THAT matter!)

Now c'mon you three(who appear to believe this whole "Nader/Crawford/Castle Production" thing). You HAVE to know I'm makin' all this stuff up as I go, RIGHT?! (...I figured the "Wham-O Slip-n-Slide" line would've been a dead giveaway!!!)

Wow, ya know, nothin's poppin' into me little head here, finance., though it appears dpompper has thought of one. I first thought maybe Randy Newman's ode to my old stompin' grounds might have the name "Sunset Blvd" somewhere in the lyrics, but nope it doesn't. And then I thought of Sheryl Crow's "All I Wanna Do", but that one only mentions "Santa Monica Blvd"(WE LOVE IT...oh..sorry), and so, nope, nothin's comin' to me here.

Well yes, the Nader/Crawford film WAS a mystery(on how it ever got made in the first place...but I digress) AND once again, similarly to "Sunset BLVD" and at the very beginning when we see Holden floating face-down in that pool and we sense that some sort of foulplay has taken place beforehand, Castle's "Sunset Avenue" production opens with Nader face-down on a Wham-O Slip-n-Slide (now here you must remember Castle's usual meager budgets), and we begin to wonder how THAT all came about!

Yeah! Great song, great group, finance!

Hmmmm...not sure if you're referrin' to Gretzky or Jackie Gleason here, heuriger???!!!

>Now I'm completely lost. Well, all ya gotta do is cross back over the Ben Franklin Bridge from Jersey and I'm SURE you'll be able to find your way back home again, RIGHT?!

Come to think of it finance, there's a "Sunset Drive" just a mile or so from my house here in Sedona. And, where "Sunset Park"(where I occasionally play tennis) is located.

Ooooh...good one! (...and here I must have subconsciously set you up with the "Nader" reference...way to GO!...I'm glad you took advantage of it!!!)

Yep. you've got THAT right, TB. MissW has one of the best senses of humor around here, and irregardless...ahem...REGARDLESS of gender!!!

No, actually heuriger, I believe similarly to how schlockmeister William Castle attempted to rip-off Hitchcock's "Psycho" with his own produuction of "Homicidal" , I think "Sunset Avenue" was his little remember 1967 attempt to do the very same thing with Billy Wilder's movie. (...and as I recall it starred George Nader and Joan Crawford...the latter of which by the mid-60s would take ANY movie she was offered!!!)

LOL...again. (...but you have NO idea how close I came to placing that "Well done!" part in parentheses...and for the LIFE o' me, I have NO idea why I didn't!!!)

LOL Though I'm sure there HAS to be a "Sunset Avenue" SOMEWHERE in the Greater L.A. area and/or in Arizona, I thought your question there was very funny! Well done!

I could of course also be wrong, fxreyman, but I don't believe our friend slaytonf meant ONLY "miniseries", but possibly a series on TCM dedicated to TV movies and maybe miniseries also, and to be broadcast on Wednesday night. (...though I'm sure he will soon correct either of us he'll find to have misunderstood his intent)

I hear ya, Brother! And the ONLY reason I broght it up was that I feel we're "kindred spirits" in this regard. (...oh, and to mildly tweak the noses of some of the "stuffed shirts" around here TOO!!!) LOL

>Regarding the greatest of the greats, John Ford, I actually think his best work was in his films WITHOUT John Wayne. Yep Swithin. I've heard, and as you've probably also heard, that one of Ford's own personal favorites was 1950's Wagon Master.

Yep, VERY good point, dpompper! (...yeah, the only thing I like to do with people like that is make fun of 'em by metaphorically "yankin' 'em around the room"...'cause the LAST thing ya wanna do is take 'em seriously and start a discussion with 'em)

OOOOH, I believe you might be talking about our "Excitable Boy" Leo here, Sepia. Yep, he occasionally hits the boards shouting his head off, alright! (...and UNLIKE how you and I will OCCASIONALLY uppercase a word or two in a sentence JUST to imply emphasis in certain words and like we're face-to-face talkin' with people...which STILL seems to bother a few folks around here, huh...BUT, slowly and steadily those folks seem to be comin' around and accepting this little trend of ours, IF you've noticed!) LOL

Great list here, fxreyman! I'd especially like to watch "QB VII" again, and what I remember another star making turn by Sir Anthony Hopkins. However, there's another made-for-TV movie you missed placing on your list and which I also remember being a notch above the rest, and sort of an updated take on Orson Welles' pseudo-radio news broadcast of "The War of the Worlds" titled Special Bulletin (1983).

Nah, not really. This is just a little running joke I've used for years in efforts to kiddingly play upon G.B.Shaw's famous quote about, "Two countries separated by a common language". And thus, because we Yanks are the only English speaking country in the world that spell certain words in the language differently(and not "bettter" I might add) than does the rest(also see: "Center" for "Centre" among(st) many other examples), I suppose in a covert manner, this is my way of kidding about the whole idea of "American Exceptionalism", also.

I think that's a great point about how the "rankings" of films and their lead actors in those various films are often predicated upon who the directors were and where their status as directors lay. And, because as you imply, Vincent Sherman isn't often considered in the same league with the likes of Curtiz and Ford, and even though I personally have never caught a "flaw" in any of his directorial efforts in "Don Juan", I suppose this could've contributed to where this film seems to "rank" Tom brought up sort of a "caveat" in his initial posting in his thread which might also explain why this film in particular seems to rank slightly lower in Fylnn's filmography, and that was his mentioning something to the effect that "Robert Douglas as the villian may not be Basil Rathbone, but he's very good in it". And while I would agree with Tom's statement, and have always thought Douglas very good in these sorts of roles, I have to wonder if this issue might also play upon the minds of those who "rank" films.