Dargo2

I would agree with everything you've just said, Fred. And, as Tom here might agree with me and may have even intimated earlier in this thread, can not understand why this film selsom seems to be mentioned in the same breath as Flynn's earlier triumphs.

>I can't help it, in Lady in the Lake as well as in The Earl of Chicago, when I hear Montgomery speak, I somehow envision Bugs Bunny. LOL Ya know clore, I think you're onto somethin' there! (...though of course, and as you probably know, Mel Blanc had said he purposely made Bugs sound like a cross between a Bronx and Brooklyn accent in order make Bugs sound "streetwise")

Fascinating read there, Tom. I didn't know of the whole "Totter/Cotter nee Meadows" connection there...which brings me to another point. I also thought Jane Meadows overacted quite a bit in her role, and thus I never completely bought into it. And re The Killers passage of Ms. Totter's reminisces, I have to say the studio made the right choice switching to Ava Gardner, as while Ms. Totter was indeed a very good actress, I personally would have never found her "sultry" enough to pull off the role of Kitty in that film.

Btw, I'd just like to add that another possible reason why I might not enjoy this film as much as I maybe should is that I kind of find Robert Montgomery's voice throughout it sounding like an Ivy Leaguer trying to sound like a streetwise tough guy, where as I never get that impression when I watch Powell or Bogie or Mitchum delivering their lines.

Oh, okay. Now I see what you were after here. Sorry, that specific question I would have no answer for you, however It seems to me that it plausible it might have been tried before in an earleir film, but that's all I could say here. And so Re "LITL", it had been many years since I'd watched it and remembered that unlike our friend finance, I remember not being very impressed with it. I recalled it as being "forced" and trying a little too hard to be "different", And, maybe because of the actors speaking directly to the camera, I felt the dialogue seemed "unnatural", and even though I know that Chandler's stock-in-trade for his characters was to intentionally present their lines in a "clipped manner". And then just a few months ago I happened to catch TCM's latest showing of this film, and ya know what? Well, sorry, but my estimation of this film changed very little from my original impression of it. I think it MIGHT have slightly risen in my regard, but not by much. Edited by: Dargo2 on Jan 29, 2013 1:22 PM

Yes, I know, but my thought was more the idea that you might have been implying that for a brief time in cinema history this camera technique was a trend the directors of a certain time were experimenting with. And, which seemed to fall out of favor within a reasonably short time.

BRAVO, finance! Well said. PLUS I'm impressed that you actually got FOUR whole sentences in on one of your posts! (...sorry, couldn't resist that one, our resident "Man of Few Words"!)

You mean kind of like how the whole "split/multiple screen" image was all the rage in the '70s, Tom?

>And Fox certainly didn't scrimp on the (characteristic) anachronistic flourishes in the costuming, who knew you could get gold lame' ball gowns and men's tailored suits with bugle beads and sequins in the nineteenth century, whether in Madrid or La Pueblo de Los Angeles etc... ? Well, look at it THIS way, Addison...at least there were no shots of the concreted banks of the L.A. River to be seen in it, anyway! (...though of course THAT little engineering "marvel" wouldn't have been completed until another couple decades after this film was shot)

slaytonf wrote: >Zorro was great! Thanks, TCM! And I say +1 to that. AND I say, thanks for the heads-up here, Tom. I probably would have missed it without your initiating this thread!

Debbie Watson ? THOUGH, somethin's tellin' me here that that's not her, and that the young lady in question is British instead of the All-American Miss Watson. (...soooo, how do ya like THAT for the ol' "CYA" tactic, EH?!) Edited by: Dargo2 on Jan 29, 2013 1:47 AM

Yep, that's it, infinite1. You've got it, alright! You see, those of us who are "mentally challenged" will occasionally be unable to resist the urge in threads that are primarily geared to be a "B*tch Session" about TCM's inadequacies, and will instead sometimes allow our deficient mental processes the bad form and most anti-social practice of diverting such a thread into a discussion of automobiles instead, and as you have so insightfully noticed. (...yep, sorry...but then again, you know how us kinda folks can be!) LOL

Yep. And maybe never better than in the episode, "Coast to Coast Big Mouth", where Laura inadvertently spills the beans on a game show that Alan wears a toupee. Btw finance, the actor/comedian Dick Curtis who played the fast talking game show host and who a few years later would become a regular on The Jonathan Winters Show, now owns a little motel here in Sedona. I had the pleasure to have a nice long chat with the now 80+ y/o gentleman, and it was a lot of fun listening to his show biz tales.

Then I guess you must've missed the line in this episode where she says.... "Ooooh Rooooob! The people of Twilo want you to start calling me 'Laura', and I agree with them!"

Okay, I gotta ask: Were you always careful to keep "Zsa Zsa" away from any and all traffic cops you might've encountered along these walks??? (...'cause ya KNOW what could've happened if ya DIDN'T, right?!)

>Fred MacMurray as Christopher Marlowe. You'll cry, you'll laugh, you'll sneeze, you'll puke, though not necessarily in that order. HEY now, Bild! I'm pretty sure I've watched Fred in Walt Disney's 1959 little remembered production of The Absent-Minded Elizabethan Playwright ! AND, as I recall he ONLY made me laugh four times, cry twice, AND puke only once by the end of it! (...nope, sorry, I don't recall ever sneezing!)

So, was that still the original and best Catwoman, Julie Newmar, or the rather lackluster Lee Meriwether in this episode.

Yeah, I think I remember that episode. Wasn't that the one where she threw a party for the Caped Crusaders, and when nobody showed up, she allowed herself a good cry? (...sorry)

What's kinda funny about that, is that the hairdo was one of the things that DOES kinda remind me of John Payne. See what I mean here? Edited by: Dargo2 on Jan 27, 2013 11:56 PM

"WAS" named Bogie??? What?! Did ya loose him while walkin' the High Sierras one day or somethin'??? (...hey, don't blame ME for that one...I must be readin' way too much stuff that that crazy Canadian lady MissW has been postin' lately!!!)

HOLY Howie Horwitz! (now, say THAT 3 times fast in a row) Do you know if the producer of TV's Batman was related at all to the famed comic trio???

clore, is it only my usual vivid imagination here, or does that picture of a relaxing Bogie make him look just a little like John Payne?

>Too close to "squirt" and since the star was 6'4" tall, he was hardly a squirt. Now clore, I ask you: Where would Jerome Lester Horwitz be TODAY if it weren't for the oxymoronic noms de guerre??? (...okay, okay, so "Curly" Howard would STILL be dead, but that's not really my point!)

Okay MissW! Have you been readin' too much of my lame humor...okay, okay, okay, JUST for you.. humoUr..around here lately??? (...'cause dear lady, THAT reeked as bad as ANY o' MY material around here, ya know!)

Wow. And here the last time I checked into this thread, I thought I had left it in some measure of peace! (...and now I think I'm startin' to understand why Hillary Clinton is steppin' down from her post as Secretary of State!!!) ROFL