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WOW! Now THAT I didn't know! So, that hillbilly feud film was shot in ROMANIA, huh?! Man...and JUST when I was startin' to warm up to that boring Costner dude, he pulls THIS! (...pssst...don't tell Jake this..it could REALLY set him off, ya know, and THEN we'd all be lookin' at pictures of "The Heartland" for WEEKS around here...though I DO have to admit they're kinda pretty!!!)

hamradio wrote: "In his final term he chaired a special legislative committee to enact a new bankruptcy law that eliminated debtors' prison." ........................................................................................ Eeh! You DO know that we now have just a slightly different version of "debtors prison", don't ya Ham??? (...yep, it's NOW called "student loans"!!!)

Oh BOY!!! Hey folks! Looks like we're all gonna now get ANOTHER visual tour of "the Heartland", BUT in a whole different THREAD!!! (...wow, how lucky are WE???!!!...and we all have hamradio to thank for this for gettin' Jake all riled up....THANKS HAM!!!) ROFL

Really Charlotte? So you thought Mayo was over-the-top, huh?! Well, maybe, but I gotta say I've known a few of those kinds of "party girls" in my time, and I think Virginia pretty much nailed it...just like I'll bet Cliff (Steve Cochran) was "nailin' it" while Fred was flyin' bombing runs over Germany! LOL (...sorry, couldn't resist that one!)

OH! So that was YOU, huh?! (...I KNEW I should've listened to my friend Alonahui when he told me to watch out for this one guy who's favorite expression is "CQ"!!!!)

TB, while reading Agee's overall positive review of "The Best Years of Our Lives", I spotted this one line of his: "The movie has plenty of faults, and the worst of them are painfully exasperating." I have to wonder what "painfully exasperating faults" he found in the film? I wish be would have elaborated upon that notion. Ya see, while I realize my great love of this film might make me somewhat blind to any faults it may have, I can't for the life of me think of any of those which might be "painfully" so.

Nope, of course I meant "Greece"! Oh, and btw, I gotta say you're a "bad influence" on me here, ya know. Ya see, FIRST you p*ssed off filmlover with YOUR comment, and THEN I p*ssed off Brain with MINE!!! Yep, I'm gonna have to stay away from you, alright! YOU are a "bad influence"! It IS okay if I blame you for my little "social faux pas" here, isn't it??? (..even though I was probably just upset that nobody has of yet acknowledged my VERY clever take on Abe's Gettysburg Address early on in this thread!) LOL

Now Brian, didn't I "admit" that I might've been mistaken about all that??? LOL THOUGH, I might advise you NOT to underestimate MY knowledge of what this present day movement advocates and what its goals are. (...but hey, and on a LIGHTER subject, what did ya think about my idea for a "Millard Fillmore" movie???...pretty good, huh?!) ROFL

rosebette wrote: "What I think audiences might not accept is Wayne in the "rape" scene.." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Nah, actually rosebette, what I WOULD probably find MUCH more hard to accept would be the idea of seein' John Wayne leaned over some architectual table with those big freakin' meat claws of hands of his grasping a No.2 pencil while usin' a T-square and triangle to design some freakin' building! NOT to mention that I hear bein' an architect ALSO usually requires at least modicum THOUGHTFUL COMPROMISES between the concepts of design AND engineering! (...in other words, "John Wayne as an ARCHITECT"???...sorry, no way, lady...he PROBABLY played a better MONGOL, which as we know he wasn't all that good at, than he would have playin' an ARCHITECT!!!) ROFL!

Yep Tom. This doesn't surprise me one bit about Coop. Remember, you and I earlier said he was basically "passive". We DIDN'T say the guy lacked any guts and/or wouldn't stand up for his fellow Americans when their rights AS Americans were being systematically trampled upon by a bunch of frightened little freakin' BULLIES!

Yeah, or how about a flick about Millard Fillmore? I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anything on film about the guy who as President signed the "Fugitive Slave Act" and who later joined the "Know-Nothing" movement...an early attempt at this whole Tea Party thing, as far as I can tell. Of course, maybe it's just the name "Know-Nothing" that's just givin' me the wrong impression of these here Tea Party folks nowadays, eh?! Yeah, THAT could just be it, alright! LOL (...yeah...sorry filmlover...I guess I shouldn't have gone there EITHER, huh!)

Wow! Now THAT is just blantantly false advertising if ya ask me, finance! (...'cause I don't think Lindsay has even ONE marriage under her belt yet, does SHE?!) LOL

True, and as somebody said earlier in this thread, why he was so effective in films such as "Sergeant York". His natural inclination toward passivity showed through in films such as that.

"Thanks for the anecdote, clore. Smart move on Coop's part. He was a man who disliked to argue." -------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah Tom, and ironically the ONE thing I never liked about the guy!!! (...those "men-of-few-words" types can REALLY get on my freakin' nerves sometimes, ya know...as maybe you might've picked up on about me after all this time, eh?!) LOL!

Yeah Ham. Gotta say filmlover is right here, ol' buddy! Please don't...ahem..."Greece" the skids of this thread by goin' in that direction, okay?!

Well mark, it isn't just "kids", ya know! Ever happen to catch any of those segments on "The Tonight Show", called "Jay Walking"??? Well, it seems to be just about every moron featured on THAT is AT LEAST 21 years of age! (...though yeah, I guess I gotta admit that at MY age, 60, I DO often refer to anyone under 50 as "a kid")

"I read a book that mentioned Reagan as the "next Ross Alexander"." --------------------------------------------------------------- WAIT! So we're sayin' here that IF this dude hadn't put a gun to his own head way back then, we'd all be debatin' the pros and cons of "Alexandernomics" now???!!!

Ya know ham, here's my guess! I'll bet they're gonna try to rewrite history a bit with their choosing Lohan to play Liz. Uh huh! You remember that car crash her good friend Monty Clift was in during the shooting of "Raintree County"? Yeah, the one that disfigured his face?! Well, I'll betcha they're gonna show that it was really Liz behind the wheel that day!!! (...well, then why ELSE would they pick Lohan to play her, HUH?!)

Wait! Liz drove a nice little Sunbeam Alpine convertible in "BUtterfield 8", right?! Well, if I HAD one of those, you can BET I wouldn't loan it to THAT production company! (...especially considering Lohan's recent driving record, anyway!!!)

Wow Sepia! I gotta say it appears you're a little upset about this whole "Abe in Vampireland" thing, eh?! Well, please consider these following words, which I believe may help you come to at least a little acceptance about this... "Five score and seven years ago our motion picture fathers brought forth on this continent a new notion, conceived in Hollywood and dedicated to the proposition that all films were created to make money."

Absolutely agree with you, Sepia. The problem I see with "The Fountainhead" and the casting of Cooper is that the character of Howard Roark is so freakin' full of himself and lacks the ablily to work well with others. And so, there was NO way that Cooper, who was usually VERY good at fleshing out characters who might have at least an ONCE of humilty and self-doubt, could play that role effectively. Nope, it wasn't in his nature. (...I mean, ANY actor can ONLY "stretch" SO FAR, ya know!) LOL!!!

TomJH wrote: "I haven't taken a count, but is it my imagination that, more often than not, contributors to this thread who have expressed a preference for one actor over the other have gone with Cooper? It does seem so. Then, again, many of us do so after analyzing their appeal, rather than others who respond by going for a more simple gut reaction." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope Tom, it ain't your "imagination" here, ol' buddy. Look at the overall demographic of this website's membership, and I think you'll also notice that most of its members are a bit older and more contemplative in nature than is the general public. And so, naturally there would be more of a tendency here to appreciate the more complex and mature acting style of Cooper's than of Wayne's. (...OR, as I noted right down below here with my "suggestion" of what I think people who idolize The Duke just a little too much should do in order to be able to fully appreciate the more subtlely drawn, and the more REALISTIC style of Cooper's...grow the hell up and GET WISE to how the freakin' world REALLY is...it AIN'T black & white!!!) LOL!

darkblue wrote: "There's no accounting for what people think is entertaining at times." ..................................................................................... MAN, dark! Do you ever have THAT right! If ANYBODY here could give me an "accounting" of why America at present seems SO freakin' geared up to all these freakin' so-called "Reality Shows"...then I'm ALL EARS!!! (...I mean, to ME this whole "The Bachelor/Bachelorette" program, et al, is as freakin' INSULTING as I guess Al Jolson doin' his thing is to the NAACP!!!) ROFL!

OH! Btw Sprocket, I thought what you said about Holden was very interesting. I never really thought about that whole "Casablanca 10 years hence" thing before, but I think you're right! What I always liked about Holden was that he, more often than not, played complex characters that exemplified the "modern American male who is often cynically torn between doing what was "right",per se, and what is "expedient"...which, as you suggest, was a similar style to Cooper's.

Wow, Sprocket! Now THAT was VERY well stated there. And so, and NOT to put words into your mouth here so to speak, the abridged version of all that is... People who idolize John Wayne should grow the h*ll up and come to the realization that the world ISN'T just black and white, but IS in fact a thousand shades of grey. (...so, is THAT about IT???...and if it IS, then ol' buddy, I couldn't agree with ya MORE!!!) LOL!