Dargo2

"Ironically, my grandmother looked amazingly like Eleanor Roosevelt - maybe that was Grandpa's real grudge." ------------------------------------------------- LOL!!! Yeah, I suppose that COULD'VE been it, alright! (...well, I hope for your Grandpa's sake, that just like that old Rock&Roll hit novelty song of yore, "If You Want To Be Happy For the Rest of Your Life", your Grandma could AT LEAST cook pretty well!!!)

Now clore! What are ya tryin' to do here with all these asperions you're casting at "The Fountainhead", huh?! Are tryin' to incite all of our "rugged individualists" around here or somethin'???!!! (...you know, all those "rugged individualists" around here who are either currently receiving their monthly Social Security checks or within a few years are about to start receiving 'em!!!) LOL!

VX, your description of your father's feelings about war films reminded me of how my own father felt about the matter. My Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division, all the way from North Africa, to Sicily, the boot of Italy, and then later after D-day, in France and Germany. When he died in 2003, I looked at his Service Record and discovered he had received 6 or 7 Bronze Battle Stars. As a kid, I would often ask my Pop about his "adventures" during the war, but he, like your dad, didn't really want to talk all that much about it. I remember him saying more than a few times that he all he did was "his job", saw some terrible stuff that he'd soon rather forget about, and then once he got his "Ruptured Duck" pin in early '46, tried to concentrate on the rest of his life with my Mom and our family. We would occasionally sit down together and watch a war picture when I was younger, but every once in a while he'd point out a few things that he felt were unrealistic about 'em. I also once remember asking him if he felt like he was "a hero" for doing his "job" during the war, and his reply was, "Not at all, and anyone who did think that way was "just foolin' themselves." Years later when Stephen Ambrose wrote his book "Citizen Soldiers" and pretty much expressed the same sentiment in it, it reminded me of my Pop and what he had said.

Well guys, I think rosebette down there hit the nail on the head here when she said... " {font:arial, helvetica, sans-serif}I wonder if audiences today are so used to action heroes that they can't appreciate the quiet intensity of a more complex type of hero."{font} ...and of which is sort of paraphrasing of what I said much earlier in this thread about "average joe Americans liking their heros to be larger-than-life"...though she does somewhat imply in her text that this is a fairly recent phenomenon. And while I think this has always been the case, I do have to agree with her that it seems it's become increasing this way in this country. (...I mean, I THINK we all know, or at least SOME of us do anyway, that our country ISN'T gettin' any smarter or has become any more sophisticated as the years have been rollin' by, RIGHT???!!!) LOL!!!

> {quote:title=kiegerg69 wrote:}{quote}They had a segment they ran many times to promote the tribute, with some actors like Ricardo Montalban and others politely commenting that "the door hasn't been opened far enough yet" > > clore wrote: What I would have loved to have seen was someone ask Montalban why he accepted the part of a Japanese Kubuki player in SAYONARA or a Native American in CHEYENNE AUTUMN. > Great point there, clore! But, why stop THERE? I mean, I'd would have ALSO liked to have asked him why he decided to take the part of Mr.Roarke on that lame Aaron Spelling program (yeah, I know...was there any OTHER kind?), "Fantasy Island"??? (...yeah, yeah, I know...it was for the money, huh!) LOL!!!

MissW, I'd just like to say thank you once again for this great idea for a thread here. I personally enjoyed it immensely, as it appears many others also did. Cheers!

TCMfan23 wrote: "i am as right as anybody else on here. I'll stick to my opinions no matter what." ------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah! That's right, TCMfan! You stick to your guns here, dude. That's how ALL "good 'Mericans" should feel! Don't you give an inch at all. THAT always "shows weakness", ya know. Just ask Big Duke!!! (...well, if ya COULD, that is!) LOL

OOPS! Sorry Fred, I guess I missed that. (...though NOW maybe you can see how "punchin' up" your punchline by occasionally usin' CAPS would help even dolts like me get the joke?!)

Sepiatone wrote: "That WAYNE though it was un-American comes as no surprise. I have conservative friends who STILL think the Senate panel of the Watergate hearings were traitors!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmmm...I'm gonna go out on a limb here Sepia, and guess that those particular firends o' yours "ain't exactly" experts the field of U.S. Constitutional Law, huh?! (...AND, I'll betcha ANYTHING they kinda feel sorry for Burt Lancaster at the end of "Seven Days in May" TOO, huh!) LOL!

REALLY?! Well then, if you read what I wrote in MissW's Father's Day thread, then it appears you and my late father would've gotten along FAMOUSLY!!! (...yep, he LOVED that whole "Chariot of the Gods" thing TOO!!!)

Now WHAT are ya talkin' about THERE, dark ol' buddy??? If they did THAT, then that OTHER channel I like to watch, which my wife likes to call "The HITLER Channel", would have to shut down, dude! Well, it's either THAT, or they'd have to start runnin' shows about guys who drive trucks on frozen lakes, or who hunt gators in The Heartland..errr..I mean The South, and which I would have NO idea what THAT has to do with the subject of History???!!! (...oh wait...that's right!...they already DO that, don't they?!...never mind)

Yep, that has always kinda puzzled me a bit too, dark! Now my GUESS is that the person in question is just usin' that as an expression to signify their opinion that it's the "Real" America, and not "those people" who live along the coasts of either the Atlantic or the Pacific Oceans. (...'cause you know how "those people" are who live near the oceans are, DON'T YA?!...yep, they're wacky, and many of 'em "hate America"!!!) ROFL!!!

WAIT, clore! You're tellin' me here that somebody ELSE beat me in regard to that "record", and they DIDN'T even use CAPS!!! (...okay, tell me who that was so I can send 'em a nasty little PM, will YA?!)

LOL! I remember Johnny's Rule there, too!... and boy did I ever break it there, huh! (...of course, there's ANOTHER little bit Carson's show that I am sometimes reminded of around here...one Floyd R. Turbo...but, for ONCE I ain't gonna come out and say who Floyd reminds me of around here...but, I THINK you can guess who he is, can't ya?!...and no, it AIN'T Fred...okay, I give ya a little hint...he lives in "The Heartland"!!!) ROFL!!!

Yeah, well clore, I guess you didn't get that I was TRYIN' my best there to break the Guiness World Record for the RUN-ON SENTENCE!!! LOL

darkblue, I couldn't agree more with the points you ATTEMPTED(sorry for the caps used here, Kyle) to get through to Fred about the exchange of opinions expressed in ANY(once again, sorry Kyle) thread, OR(once again Kyle, sorry) that we somehow were "attacking" Pamela about her opinion. My opinion is that once ANYBODY(sorry) expresses an opinion ANYWHERE(sorry) either on the internet or in person, and then another person who might disagree with them because they feel that they might be able to further contribute some pertinent information about that issue which they feel might help the original opinion "expresser" understand why there may be an opposing viewpoint worth considering, well, IF(sorry) that second person fails to express their viewpoint, THEY(sorry) are just..well...GUTLESS(sorry), and ARE (sorry) just practicing their OWN(sorry) form of "political correctness", which ironically seems to often come from the VERY(sorry) people who claim to hate the idea of "political correctness" the MOST! (...so dark, keep up the good work here!)

Hey Ham! Do ya think there's any way to maybe spread that there sense of humor you've got to other parts of "The Heartland"??? (...yeah...kinda like a "Johnny Appleseed" sorta thing, ya see!!!) LOL!

chirp..chirp..chirp HEY! Am I now hearin' "crickets" TOO??????

Well, there ya go, Pilgrim! Big Jake has just called ya out, AND supplied one of his handy dandy little photographs of the Heartland to make his point! So, whaddaya say, ham?! Now, don't you feel bad now? Hey JAKE...do you EVER freakin' LIGHTEN UP?????????? TALK about "overly sensitive"!!! Heck, you've got NOTHING on Pamela here and her whole problem with "blackface", dude!!! Edited by: Dargo2 on Jun 18, 2012 12:36 AM

Yeah, Well, I just hope that nobody still thinks that all mute people are as crazy as that one guy at the beginning of that video in that beat up ol' top hat and trenchcoat seems to be there!!! (...btw Andy...I get your point...I think it's a good one...BUT as has been said before here, "that unfortunately was the way it was back then"..I'M just glad we at least have SOME record of all the wasted talent due to racism from back in that era...as little record as it is)

Now c'mon, Jake. I'll betcha Ham didn't mean to imply EVERYONE in W.Virginia is like that!!! Nope, 'cause if HE'S heard what I'VE heard, there IS a report that ONE family in Wheeling has made it a firm commitment since 1973 to ONLY date no closer than their third cousins...TWICE removed! Hmmmm...or was that once removed? Well EITHER way, I think that that's ADMIRABLE!!! (...btw Jake, I'M JUST KIDDIN'...just in case you couldn't tell...which SOMETIMES I wonder about)

"Sis"!!! ROFL! You guys are KILLIN' me here!!! (...btw...I HOPE you folks realize that we'll NOW have to designate almost ANYTHING Al Capp ever drew and captioned as "politically incorrect" TOO, don't ya?!...I mean, those poor Hillbillies out there...NOW we can see how unfair that guy was to 'em, RIGHT???...oh how "clear-visioned" we are today, huh?!) LOL!!!

"Mammy Van Doren"!!! LOL!!! Not bad, Swithin...NOT bad AT ALL! (...but then again, you KNOW how I'm a sucker for really bad puns, don't ya!)

FredCDobbs wrote: "Jolson didn't make fun of them, but he treated them in his act like they were all **** children. This was a typical old New York attitude..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, HECK Fred! Don't you know that EVEN TODAY there's many a New Yorker who STILL thinks "there's no 'intelligent life' west of the Hudson River!"??? LOL!!! (...and REGARDLESS of an individual's race, color OR creed who might have the "misfortune" of livin' west of that tributary...just ASK 'em!!!) ROFL!!!

HEY now, Swithin! I THOUGHT we weren't EVER supposed to say "Mammy" at ALL anymore, DUDE!!! (...man, now how "politically incorrect" are YOU???!!!) LOL!!!