Dargo2

Ahem, hey Fred, I COULD be wrong here, BUT I don't think there's such a word as "Technicolour"....it's "Technicolor". Nope, I'm pretty sure because that particular film process was invented in the good ol' U.S. of A, where we don't use that "superfluous "u", and after the british invented the first process of its kind known as "Kinemacolor"(note, even the BRITISH didn't use that superfluous letter "u" in the name of that process ), they named it AND patented it as: "Technicolor"...like I said, no "superfluous "u"!!! LOL!!! (...btw, before ANYONE gets on their friggin' high horse here...the above was offered in a "tongue-in-cheek" fashion...OR as the Brits might say, I'm bein' "cheeky"!!!...however, factually I'm still correct here...I THINK!!!)

Okay, Fred. I'll admit YOU would know best that NO African-Americans ever in the South during the Reconstruction era EVER called their mother, "Mammy", nor ever sang "Swanee". BUT, even if that WERE true, and I'll EVEN give ya that one, my MAIN point was that contrary to what Pamela is positing here that Jolson was "making fun" of Blacks, MY main point was that he wasn't...EVEN though its possible, was you suggest, that his "shtick" was all wrong.

LOL! Yeah! I'd hope so too! So, maybe THIS the script that Duke should've told his agent, "Bring me another one like THIS one, and I'll fire your butt!", eh Tom?! LOL!

Well, YEAH ginnyfan! But then again, I've already mentioned in that "Cooper and Wayne" thread that goin' on right now too, that Duke wasn't exactly known for bein' about to stretch into anything other than Westerns and War films!!! (...though truth be told, I don't see Coop doin' any better at playin' a Mongol then Wayne did EITHER!!!)

Now WAIT a second here, Tom!!! Whaddaya doin' with all that "colour" thing there, HUH?! Now I ask you...were ANY of those movies Coop did, and that weren't in B&W, flmed in CANADA or the UK or somethin', DUDE??? (...you know by now that I can't resist this kinda thing, don't ya ol' buddy?!)

Ya know ham, it's funny, but I thought Connors was actually pretty good in that film, AND actually with that creased and weather-beaten face of his, pretty much looked the part too.. Now, ya wanna talk "laughin'" here...I remember the day my Dad and I went to see "The Magnificent Seven" when it was first run in 1960. There was scene in which Yul Brynner took his cowboy hat off and wiped his brow, and I'll never forget more than few folks in the audience chuckin' at his pate. I guess they couldn't accept the idea of a bald and clean shaven gunslinger in the late 19th Century. (...of course, this was filmed during the era of Westerns where every actor looked like he had just gone to a barber shop on Ventura Blvd for a nice neat 1950's style haircut and a shave)

Pamela, I BELIEVE what you're missin' here is that when Jolson(especially) was doin' his blackface, he WASN'T "making fun" of blacks. NOPE! What Jolson(especially) was doin' was, YES, believe it or NOT, "honoring" the black culture of the then South! Uh huh! Yep. Ya see, If you'll REALLY watch him singing "Mammy" in blackface here.. ...I THINK you'll notice he wasn't "winkin' at the camera" nor insinuating in ANY manner at all that he was "jokin' around". Nope! He had his Jewish heart AND soul into this little number here. And, you can tell your friend this too...and I HOPE you will. (...and THIS is all comin' to ya from a guy who ISN'T a big Jolson fan!)

Eeh, maybe, but MY guess is that Wayne, by "perfecting" that hard-nosed act of his over the years, and possibly associating Ford's antics in his mind as "bein' a real man", Wayne just thought that that's how a "real man" is supposed to act, so he not ONLY accepted it, he apprecated it. (...though I'm NOT a Shrink...I only PLAY one on the freakin' INTERNET!!!)

aimalac wrote: I don't want to come off as insensitive or racist or anything along those lines, but can someone explain to me how and why someone would feel offended by 'blackface'? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, to answer your question here aimalac, FIRST watch this trailer... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTqsy63Wf9Y ...and THEN tell me, if YOU were some lame-brained little Valley Girl, wouldn't YOU be offended TOO???!!! (...WHAT?!...no, you WOULDN'T???!!!...well then, in THAT case MAYBE things have CHANGED a little, and EVEN lame-brained little Valley Girl types nowadays can understand why SOME things AREN'T worth gettin' their freakin' little noses out o' joint about!!!!) LOL!!!

Sorry, Charlotte. Yes, I suppose I was remiss in not acknowledging your kind Father's Day greating to me earlier, wasn't I?! Thank you. Though in all fairness, I must advise you that I'm not a Dad...of which I'm sure this weary ol' world is probably most appreciative of that fact! (...however, I do sincerely hope YOUR Dad is havin' a great day today...he sounds like a great guy, just like my Pop was)

Ya see folks, re the direction this thread as taken about Duke's thoughts about that badge in the dirt: Somehow I guess, despite Duke usually bein' the "intellectual sort"(of COURSE I'm kiddin' about THAT), it SOMEHOW didn't dawn on the guy that what that whole badge in the dirt thing to supposed to represent is that in America, and pretty much everywhere ELSE in the world for THAT matter, government/authority is ONLY as good as the PEOPLE who support it. (...yeah, I'm "shocked" once again that Duke didn't pick up on that somehow!!!) LOL!!!

I see you beat me to it here, clore. (..."great minds" and all, eh?!)

Well, NOT to start somethin' here Tom, BUT a Right-Winger throwin' out that "un-American" label at somethin' he doesn't like?! Why, WHY, I'm SHOCKED...about as "shocked" of course as Claude Rains was in Casablanca while collecting his gambling winnings and closin' down Bogie's bar at the very same time. LOL!!! (...and yeah, I've heard Duke was especially "offended" when Coop threw his badge in the dirt at the end of that flick.

Why, thank you Charlotte! Ya see, I ain't so bad, now am I?! Yep, I have my days. (...what?!...now you REALLY didn't expect me to come back with a reply that wasn't at least a LITTLE sarcastic, now did ya?!)

My take on these two gentlemen: Wayne was an actor...a larger than life actor, and thus why he really wasn't able to "stretch" and effectively act in anything other than a limited number of genres...westerns and war films. Cooper, as has been stated many a time by many a person, was a RE-actor, and thus was better able to play off other actors in scenes, and thus was able to "stretch" into other genres more effectively, such as comedies, romances, and westerns, and often played more of the "Average Joe" when playing the part of the hero. And so, because many of the "Average Joe" Americans out there like their heros TO BE "larger than life", I think this might possibly be another reason for Wayne being more remembered by the public than Cooper is today.

OHMSS69 wrote: "Two of my favorites are Burgess Meredith and Gene Hackman. NOBODY has better acting resume's than these two." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I certainly agree that both of these gentlemen were great actors(Hackman especially being on the top of my list of favorites the last three or four decades), I'm not so sure that either gentleman could be categorized as a "Character Actor"...especially considering that Hackman in particular "starred" and usually got top billing in films until his fairly recent retirement. (...a retirement, as maybe you can tell, I was sorry to hear about)

"My dad had sense of humor not unlike Dargo2's." -------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, you poor thing! BUT, the GOOD thing is that you STILL have seemed to turn out okay DESPITE all that!!! Btw, I just remembered...my Pop also loved Tarzan flicks for some reason, too. Personally, I couldn't understand that one either. They're okay I guess, but I never got into 'em much. Though, I have to admit he DID do a pretty mean Tarzan yell. Swear to God(or maybe to those advanced aliens out there somewhere) the thing sounded JUST like the one Johnny Weissmuller did! (...though word is that Weissmuller's was actually an audio amalgamation of two or three different voices)

"Another time, they went to see The Boys From Brazil (which they did like), but my father mistakenly thought it was going to be a musical." LOL!!! Well, in your father's defense, they WERE gonna make it one, ya know...until they found out that Greg Peck couldn't carry a tune in a bucket!

He liked "The Guns of Navarone", huh?! Then I'm guessin' he didn't ever fall asleep like Rob Petrie did when he watched it, right? (...ya gotta be a real Dick Van Dyke Show fan to get this one)

Well in THAT case, I suuuuure hope for everyone else's sake she doesn't have to do any driving in this one!!!

Well, seein' as how you've brought that up here, finance...I'm pretty sure the best greeting cards I've ever received had one of Gary Larson's "The Far Side" comics on the front of 'em! (...okay, and now back to our fathers...say finance, what's the story on YOUR Pop here, anyway...I know I'd like to hear about him...that could "explain" YOU a bit TOO, ya know) LOL

Great idea for a thread here, MissW. My Pop, who died in 2003 at age 83, especially liked "The Day the Earth Stood Still". I think what caught his fancy was the whole allegorical scientific reference to Jesus Christ which Michael Rennie's character Klaatu represented in this film. I also think this film, along with his reading of the late 1960's Erich Von Daniken best selling book, "Chariots of the Gods?" were the catalyst for his "conversion" later in life to the "philosophy" that flying saucers and UFOs do exist, and that humans were actually placed upon this planet eons ago by some advanced civilization out there somewhere in space. (...ya see, NOW you're startin' to see why I'M kinda "way out there" MYSELF a lot of the time around here, ain't ya?) LOL Pop, though otherwise actually very lucid towards the end of his life, would occasionally call me on the phone to tell me some new UFO/alien "documentary" was about to be shown on TV and that I should watch it. And, even though I'd try my best to dissuade him from his "philosophy" by telling him that there really isn't any proof at all that 'we've been visited", it was no use at all. He was a "Believer" until the day he died. He really was a great guy...a little "out there" sometimes as you can see, but a great guy nonetheless!)

hamradio wrote: Looks like the tables has turned on us. Spanish has now freely mixed with English. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WAIT!!! I can see it all now! "Quetzalcoatl", the story of a humongous winged serpent, hooked on drugs and forced to do the bidding of a nefarious cartel from south of the border...co-starring half a dozen of those hot Latin babes featured in those Univision novelas, whose voices will be dubbed over for the U.S. market by Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Aniston and Sara Jessica Parker...no, scratch that Parker women, I can't stand her voice...lets use Kate Beckinsale instead...yeah, I know she has a british accent...so what?! (...yep, I see big box office numbers here, alright!)

Well clore, in THAT case, I guess you TOO have never watched De Sica's ""Mothra: The Flying Radioactive Bicycle Snatcher", huh?! (...I'm tellin' ya, the DUBBED version of THAT one is FAR more fun...especially when Anna Magnani looks up from the ruins of the Roman Forum and exclaims, "Look! It's Mothra, and BOY is HE ever p*ssed!")

Now fess up here, Swithin...it was that little scar the guy had near his mouth that always kinda freaked ya out, wasn't it?! (...and THIS comin' for a person who I think once said around here that they absolutely LOVE Conrad Veidt???!!!) LOL Yep, to each his own, I guess. I still think "Singin'" was his masterpiece. I can watch that puppy 'til the cows come home and still marvel at it each and every time.