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Very true, twtpark. One might even say in just 1939 alone, he was..ahem.."tailor-made" to play his roles in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" ( get it? "Taylor-made"...one of his notable lines in that one), and in Gone with the Wind".

Nicely written piece about Garfield here, MP. And, as you and Lori have said a number of times about the actor in various threads at this website, it truly is a shame that he does seem almost forgotten by too many people today. This is additionally unfortunate in my view because IF, as many believe, he WAS the first "Method" actor to make a name for himself in the Hollywood film industry, then my perception has always been that be was a better overalll film actor than the next two big male "Method" film stars who have gone on to become film icons and who's memory seems to shine as bright as ever among the public, Brando and Dean. I say the above because I've always felt Garfield still seemed so "natural" in his scenes, whereas many times I think the other two actors named above seemed too "affected" in their performances, and many times, almost to the point of over-acting. And while it can't be denied that all three of these gentlemen contributed memorable performances on film, Garfield's, at least in my mind and as I've said here, was usually just a little "better" because of what appears to be his blending of the "Naturalistic" and "Method" styles. (...just my opinion, of course)

Here's another one from your friend Drago...errr...I mean DARGO here, folks! I think this one is just about spot on... Delores Moran ...and... Morgan Fairchild

Wouldn't you folks agree that the latest track in this thread almost begs the question: Can a classic or at least a "near great" Musical even be done using Rock music? Because, off the top of my head, I can't even think of one which would today has become known as such. I think there may have been a few "good" to maybe even "very good" examples of such, but offhand nothing where a title springs to my mind. So, what say you?

Doug, as you probably know, John Goodman's role of Lawrence Woolsey in 1993's "Matinee" was a tribute to "schlockmeister" movie director/producer William Castle. (...just thought I'd add that here, just in case there might be a few folks around here who didn't already know this)

Re Ward Bond here, TB... I think my favorite line or lines of his are in John Ford's "Wagon Master", and that one particular scene where he as Elder Wiggs, Ben Johnson as Travis Blue, and Harry Carey Jr. as Sandy have the following exchange with a Navajo indian.... [Travis Blue|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424565/]: [of the indians] Near as I can figure out, he don't seem to like white men. *[sandy|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001013/]*: Yeah, he say's we're all thieves. *[Elder Wiggs|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000955/]*: Smarter then he looks! [Sandy speaks Navajo, evidently translating what Elder Wiggs had just said] *[Elder Wiggs|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000955/]*: Don't tell him that, you fool! Tell him we're Mormans! [the Navajos speak in their native touge, mutterring "Mormany" repeatedly] *[Elder Wiggs|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000955/]*: What'd he say? *[sandy|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001013/]*: Say's the Mormans are his brothers. Say's they ain't big thieves like most white men. Just little thieves. *[Elder Wiggs|http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000955/]*: Right complementery, ain't he? That one particular line above where he sort of confirms the thought expressed by the indian about white men, "Smarter than he looks", always cracks me up big time. Of hand, I'd say that this role of Bond's might've been his biggest and best of his long career, wouldn't ya say?! (...btw, one addition note here...When I copied and pasted the above dialogue, I noticed something that I didn't know before, and that is that the great American athlete, Jim Thorpe has a role in this film...so, do you know if that was him in this scene?)

Okay then. I guess gettin' ya to admit one out o' TWO o' these things isn't so bad, eh?! (...I mean, I'll take battin' .500 ANY ol' day of the week!)

Wow chaney. Gotta say I couldn't DISagree with you more. Ya see, I thought that ending was just about perfect because it covered two thoughts there...one being he was now at a new crossroads in his life, and the second one being that he MAY have just found a new love, and thus giving us hope that his character will live happily ever after.

And btw...Jake's waving of Old Glory in this thread(gee, now WHAT'S the chances of THAT, huh?! LOL) reminded me of this scene in "The Americanization of Emily"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyMRz1hbb4M

Here's your answer, Sepia.... (...minus the Yiddish accents, of course)

LOL! Loved the come-back there, Lori...especially that whole "Lana/Postman" thing. Yep, I guess I gotta admit that there may not be all THAT much of a resemblance there...except maybe, YOU gotta admit that their ears are very similar anyway, and maybe their noses too, right?!

I agree with you, MissW. I thought the movie was pretty much great from beginning to end, also. However, I have a friend who loves Coen Brothers films, but he found absolutely no redeeming value in that movie. He said he thought it was basically done solely in the vein of "Violence for violence's sake", and that he found very little if any of the usual Coen Brother's "weird humor" in it.

Yep slaytonf, I have to admit to the same feelings about the ending of "Suspicion" the first time I watched it, also. In fact, I must admit that I was kind of glad that Grant didn't turn out to be a murderer. However, as you sort of suggest with you use of the phrase, "...and to my then unsophisticated mind", with each subsequent viewing of it, the more that ending just seems to bug the heck out o' me. (...maybe we can just chalk THAT all up to my becoming more worldly, AND much more cynical as I age, EH?!)

Well then, in THAT case, allow me to apologize here...though NOT for "stirrin' up trouble", but FOR missin' what TB said earlier! Now ya see, IF you just would have "'SPLAINED"(as Ricky Ricardo used to say) THIS to me EARLIER, then all this "unpleasantness" could have been avoided, ol' buddy!!! ROFL

Well okay then, my friend. And so in THAT case, I'm NOW wonderin' why ya felt the need to express the OBVIOUS down there then?! (...eeh, don't bother answerin' that one...I can see right now that this COULD go on FOREVER!!!) LOL!

Now c'mon VX...ya HAVE to admit that that fella Rodgers and that OTHER fella Hammerstein, were real hacks, now don't CHA???!!! LOL!

Well, okay...then allow this smart**** here to elaborate upon what I THINK you're hinting at... I am supposing that your point besides the obvious differences between the looks of each actress in question here, is that the producers of the remake wanted to "sex up" the role a little more by picking Ms. Ekberg to play it. (...so, am I CLOSE???...and would you NOW care to elaborate upon my supposition here?)

Well, yeah, I wasn't sayin' your observation wasn't true, I was just kinda wonderin' what your point was there....??? 'Cause ya see, you didn't elaborate upon it. I mean, I may be (a) smart(***), but I ain't no mindreader here, ya know!

Not sure if I get your point about the dissimilarities between the looks of Anita and Lucy there, krieg??? (...though I gotta say that math prowess of yours is mighty impressive!)

Gotta say Jake, there are times I have serious doubts about that statement! (...though, then again, I think it was ol' Tom himself there, as a matter of fact, who once famously remarked..."People usually get the kind of government they deserve!", huh!) LOL!!!

TopBilled wrote: "As for Lucy, of course she was sexy...Desi found her irresistible when he met her on the RKO lot." ----- True, but word was, and unfortunately for their marriage, Desi would find a few OTHER sexy little things around the movie lots(and elsewhere) just a little too "irresistible" ALSO!

Have to say TB, I pretty much agree with you on many if not nearly all of your observations here, however when you said Lucille Ball wasn't a "sexpot", I'll have to kinda disagree with you about that. I mean, I can't imagine that someone with your wealth of knowledge in cinema history would forget that Lucy actually was considered somewhat of a "sexpot" early on in her career. Now granted, while she may not even in her younger days been considered as much as a "sexpot" as the Ekberg, and in Ekberg's case an actress who will probably be remembered ONLY for that kind of role, I'd say Lucy would have probably been considered by many a casting directors back in the '30s and early 40s to be able to fit the bill in this regard. And, while she may not have ever given you that personal feeling of, "Oh Baby! Now SHE'S hot!"(and to tell ya the truth, she never really did THAT for me either), I'd bet there are more than a few folks around here who she did or does make 'em feel that way whenever they see her in one of her early roles.

Well, I happened to catch "Pagan Love Song" with Howard Keel and Esther Williams a while back on TCM, and I gotta say the songbook in THAT one sure was forgetable....to say nothin' of the basic storyline.

Sepiatone wrote: "Sometimes, a weak ending is considered to be those endings that don't tie up loose ends, or leaves the audience with more questions than answers. THOSE are the ones I hate." Hmmmm...interesting, Sepia. Ya see, I sometimes find THOSE kinds of endings more "intriguingly satisfying" than when all those loose ends ARE tied up. I find those movies are often the very ones I think about for some time after watching them, and often begin to contemplate and conjure up my own ideas as to what might have become of some of the characters after the film is over by using what I've learned of their behavior during the film. (...but to each his own, I guess)

Yep. Good ol' Irwin Allen. I always wondered if he realized his stuff was total camp or what?!!