Dargo2
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Martin's performance in 1989's "Parenthood" was a real eye-opener for me, especially his dramatic moments in the film and in particular his scenes where he expresses his resentment to his father played by Jason Robards.
Somehow this film always seems to be forgotten when talk of Martin's better roles in films come up.
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Yeah, actually, I always thought Stanwyck bleached her hair for that role, come to think of it.
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I wonder if this musical, like Webber's "Sunset Blvd" and a few other of his musicals, with be based upon the movie...in this case the 1989 drama "Scandal" ?
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Hmmmm...I wonder if Twinkeee and "babes" here were watchin' the same Cagney flick as I was??? 'Cause as I said down there somewhere, most of the production values of this flick were great EXCEPT for the now badly dated and rudimentary aerial special effects, which for the TIME anyway weren't all that bad I suppose, but certainly not "great"! I mean, when that German Me-109 and Cagney's Bomber crashed into the North Atlantic, I'd have sworn it looked like a couple of my old Revell models I glued together as a kid crashing into a tub of water.
(...aaah, but hey, maybe I should just let their little mutual admiration society thing go without comment and not insinuate myself here, 'cause it's usually to no avail anyway, huh!)
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Oh, I dunno. I'll betcha there's probably more than few guys coolin' their heels in some of our maximum security prisons who might think Cagney died a "hero" in "White Heat"!!!
(...of course in THEIR case, the concept of "heroics" might be a bit askew, and most likely the reason they're there!)
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Ahem...sorry Mr. R, but I don't think Paramount used the same prop department as Universal at that time.
(...'cause as you probably know, one was/is located on Melrose Ave, and the other was/is on the other side of the Hollywood Hills in the San Fernando Valley!)
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Possibly, but where would this place Constantine's conversion and the subsequent conversion of the Roman Empire? Would this "alternate history" of which you speak have affected this situation to such a great degree as to cause what these scholars suggest?
(...well, it's your thread and so I suppose you can sidetrack it if ya want to, eh?!)
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And btw Swithin, YOUR point and the reason for your thread was well taken, in my view.
(...saaaay, maybe ol' Cyrus just needs a better Press Agent, eh?!)
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Well, ONCE AGAIN, if YOU Fred wouldn't have me on his ignore function, then he'd be able to read my response to you about a director's, ANY director's personal history and/or "being a great guy" or not on the whole is irrelevant to the discussion of Art, AND debunking your contention that "it's only been in this 21st Century when Griffith's possible personal views and NOT his abilities as a director have been called into question!"
IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THIS OTHER THREAD ABOUT GRIFFITH...
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My (short) review:
First rate acting using some of WB's best actors of the time, and very high production values, except of course for the very dated and rudimentary aerial special effects.
The plot seemed a bit confused, as it first seemed to be a melodrama intent on presenting us the classic love triangle storyline and then seemed to switch gears out of almost nowhere and became a rousing gung ho recruitment tale of fighting for King and Country.
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Oh, okay...I'll show how "tolerant" I can be then, Twink...seein' as how you now wish to change the subject back to this film "Intolerance".
(...and which ironically I've found little if any thoughts of yours being expressed about this film so far in this thread...so go ahead, what did YOU think of it, huh?!)
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WHAT?! A guy can't call out for another guy leave some other guy alone anymore or somethin'????
What's this world comin' to anyway!!!!
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(...ya see, THIS is what happens when "some folks" can't stand it when someone else challenges their hard and fast opinions and then resent it enough to place them on their ignore function...'cause MY motto has always been: "If you're going to talk in definitive statements, then put on your Big Boy Pants and get ready to defend those thoughts of yours"...and unfortunately it appears "some folks" around here don't have those "Big Boy Pants" in their boudoir)
Case in point, my response to Fred in THIS thread today, and which because of him doing this very thing, he'll never read.....
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=170796&tstart=0
Edited by: Dargo2 on Sep 5, 2013 5:13 PM
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Oh yeah! I remember THAT scene in that movie TOO now!
Another clear.........oh never mind.
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Oh, yeah...NOW I remember that scene. A clear case of "suicide" if ever there was!!!
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(...okay, okay...yeah, yeah, I'll quit now)
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Yes, but couldn't one say he committed "Marriage Suicide" when he wed Brenda Marshall?????
(...see how they've now got me convinced I was wrong all along...I'm SUCH a pushover, ya know!)
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Well, ya know what they say: "When the going gets rough......."
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How was I exactly "putting someone else's opinion down" with by observation of that both Griffith and DeMille used soap opera theatrics to tell their tales of the Bible???
It's common knowledge that they DID, and ESPECIALLY in DeMille's case. And thus all my previous post's point was to jokingly refer TO this fact and elicit a "knowing chuckle" from those who DO know this, and NOT to make fun of the post or poster I used in response.
(...you're gettin' mighty over sensitive again, my dear)
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Not a bad point to bring up here, Tom.
And so I suppose by your own thought here that it all depends upon which side your allegiances lay would determine what "suicide" on the field of battle actually means.
(...btw, you might know that toward the end of the European theater of conflict during WWII, there was also a Luftwaffe plan which was actually implemented for a short duration in which German pilots would purposely fly their fighter aircraft into Allied Bombers)
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Very true. And thus why my credo has always been:
"They put their pants on one leg at a time just like I do"
(...meaning of course, everybody has their good and bad points, and so don't idolize anyone...just appreciate what they bring to the table)
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It seems you're finally grasping my point here, Twink...well, almost anyway.
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Well then, what say we just chalk this one up here as that rare occurrence known as a "suicide/murder", because he probably dies a split second before he KILLS that German pilot...who looks like E.G. Marshall.
Happy NOW?!!! LOL
(...though THIS does now bring into question the definition of "murder" doesn't it, because as I'm sure you ALSO know the use of the word "murder" to describe the actions of soldiers on the battlefield is almost always thought of as a misnomer also, and even though I'm sure the folks at Mr. Webster's publication would say "murder" is a synonym of "killing", and even though I think we all know that they're NOT exact synonyms, right?!)
Edited by: Dargo2 on Sep 5, 2013 3:52 PM
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James, the vocabulary, as is life in general, is best used when an understanding of seeming inconsequential matters are grasped in their specificities.
(...and thus I still say, and no matter what the folks at Mr. Webster's publication say, that one who, say, jumps on a live grenade to save the life of his comrades and is posthumously awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor did NOT "commit suicide"...and what Cagney does in this picture was the aerial equivalent of that)
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And isn't it funny that the first two directors that won the first two Guild's Lifetime Achievement Awards...
1953: Cecil B. DeMille
1954: John Ford
...couldn't stand each other and thought each other wasn't a "great guy"...a description of which you seem to place such a high value upon in your defense of Griffith when you stated:
>But in the year 2,000 Griffith's name was dropped from the award, and from then on all the movie-industry hype has been telling us and trying to indoctrinate us into thinking that Griffith was a bad guy. And I say BS to that. He is still a great guy to me.
Point being, "being a great guy" should have little to do with Art!
And btw, you're observation is incorrect about when the "racist" title was placed around Griffith's neck. This thought has been around at least since the 1970s, because I personally remember it being one of the reasons used, RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, against the showing of "Birth of a Nation" in college film classes or that time.
(...AND, it's TOO freakin' bad you have me on your ignore function so you could read and learn how occasionally some of your opinions don't hold up to scrutiny)
Finally! Lansbury to get special Oscar; Steve Martin & Angelina Jolie, too!
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Oh c'mon now, Fly! Surely you still remember that feeling of exhilaration you got that time in the '70s they handed you that Bowling trophy for rolling that high scratch game of 279, dontcha?!