Dargo2

>If we learn from our mistakes then I must be a genius. And thus possibly the very reason that "genius" IS a fairly rare occurrence in our species. (...'cause few people, myself included, actually DO learn from our mistakes!) LOL

Yeah Hibi, now that I've re-read Sepia's comment , I think you're right. He probably didn't mean to imply he thought this particular movie "sucked". (...sorry Sepia)

>LOL and where's your sense of humor on this one. Well, like I said, it's still pretty early out here in the West, and I'm just now gettin' to my second cup o' joe! LOL >You know I was kidding you. Yeah, I knew that.

Wow, Sepia. I thought the film didn't "suck" at all. While not a great film, the performances in it by all the actors made it a worthwhile experience to view in my case. I also thought the pace gave it somewhat of a "European" feel, meaning slow and thoughtful and intimate, and thus somewhat unique enough from most American-made films to make it interesting. Something I kept thinking of while watching it last night was how much Woodward reminded me of another cold and distant but ultimately fascinating to watch maternal-type character in another movie made just a few years later...the wife and mother Mary Tyler Moore played in "Ordinary People".

THANK you, MissW! Because your well written and thoughtful reply to Lavender encompassed my thoughts on that matter perfectly, I can now do a "finance thing" here and save myself tons of keystrokes! ...forgot to add... (...because it's still pretty early in the morning out here in the West, and my fingers aren't warmed up quite yet!) Edited by: Dargo2 on Aug 28, 2013 9:12 AM

That would be preferable of course, James, however I would think any "one-person" play about any historical figure presenting a circumspect accounting of events about their life would almost be a contradiction-in-terms, due to the subject telling their POV in such matters. Can you think of one offhand that hasn't?

Well ham, not that I'm blaming poor ol' put upon Alec here(probably because whenever I see him on Letterman, he strikes me as a witty, intelligent and overall likable guy), but I think THIS part of that report kinda says it all...IF it's true of course: "A day later, Baldwin's 17-year-old daughter with ex-wife Kim Basinger, Ireland, penned a letter to her new sister: "You have been born into one crazy family," she wrote. "You are both lucky and cursed at the same time."

Now, what is it with all these seemingly otherwise intelligent people around here lately who have "chips on their shoulders", huh folks??? (...and why do I KEEP runnin' into 'em around here now???) LOL

Yep, that's him, Rich. Good eye.

LOL Yeah, but I didn't know you were in any way connected to finance. (...no, NOT our friend hittin' the stationary bike in Philly everyday, I meant "financial matters" of course!)

Sorry heuringer, but I'll have to send you "out to the cornfield" for THAT one!!! LOL

Nope, Twink, It's not the guy who forgets to take his gun and not the canole with him after dining at an Italian restaurant. Sorry. (...that is if you're talkin' about Robert "Blake")

Okay, I've one now... (...and no, before anyone asks, it isn't a younger Don Rickles with hair...you hockey pucks!!!)

YEAH! Like that time WAY back in happier times when James' mom placed her foot in June Allyson's footprint outside Grauman's Chinese Theater while his dad placed HIS in Dick Powell's footprint. (...Hey James, maybe THAT'S why your dad has such a thing for June?!...well, I'd like to think so anyway)

>I believe you meant to type an "a" and not an "i" in that last word. LOL Yeah, unfortunately I thought of adding that to my post right after I had entered it! And yeah, I definitely see signs of success in how going about that process has allowed you to become more cognizant of this loopy American culture of ours!

I agree, James. In fact, speaking of Oprah and "The Butler" movie, in a way and from what I heard about it(haven't seen it yet, though my wife and I were at a neighbor's dinner party this Saturday and a few of the attendees said they had seen it and liked it...but I digress) it seems this film touches upon a similar theme to this idea of Sepia's. As you probably know, Oprah was on Letterman's show a few weeks ago to plug the film, and they showed a clip of the scene where she slaps her son's face after he had become somewhat "radicalized" and called his father(Forest Whitaker) an "Uncle Tom" during dinner.

ROFL!!!! That was GREAT, Sans!!! How in the world have I never run across that one before?!!! (...I guess I'm even more "culturally deprived" than I THOUGHT!!!)

And Hibi, seein' as how it appears I'm in the mood to "help" people around here to remember the "hits" of yesteryear(or in this case "discover" 'em)...here ya are with that Julie London cover of the Ohio Express hit!... (...oh, by the way, be forewarned...Julie sounds a little "under-the-weather" here..)

LOL Well, in THAT case Sans, lemme see if I can refresh your memory here! Hello, SansFin Well Hello, Sansfin It's so nice to see you back in this here thread! (...sorry, couldn't resist)

Actually a very good question there, finance! So, where on some proposed "Butterfly McQueen-Marla Gibbs Maid Spectrum" WOULD we place Hattie here, eh folks?! I MY view, most of Hattie's "maid" roles would've been toward the Marla Gibbs end of that spectrum. In other words, the "sassy" end of it and not the "subservient" end of it. (...but hey, once again, what do I know...I have no "dog in the fight" here, and no "ax to grind" here, right?!)

>..and watching Janssen's facial expressions and listening to his voice made me really uncomfortable. What finance?! Watchin' that signature little one-side-of-his-face-momentary-smile-facial-tick-like thing of his wasn't enough for ya or somethin'???

C'mon now, MissW! if you're now gonna provide a link to Bubblegum music, then the LEAST you could have done here was to link us to the Number 1 "BEST" of that genre which was sittin' right over to the right of that YouTube page you linked us to!!! Yep, I'm talkin' of none other than that little ditty by the Ohio Express titled: "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, I've Got Love in My Tummy"!!! (...and ONLY possibly rivaled as the Number 1 "Best" in that genre by that OTHER little ditty done by The Archies)

WAIT!!! drednm is sayin' here he has a couple of college diplomas hangin' on his wall?! Oh well, in THAT case I, only a lowly high school graduate, must take back EVERYTHING I've said in this thread about him. Yep, it appears I must now bow to his superior academic credentials and eat a little crow here. I mean, ANYONE who can place letters behind their name "MUST BE" of superior intellect, RIGHT?! (...though it seems not necessarily "superior" in the art of social skills...unfortunately) LOL

Yeah, well I'm kinda wonderin' here if James' dad might've been better at placing the faces of these ladies if he'd hear their voices at the same time. I mean, using two senses to help jog the ol' memory IS always better than just one, ya know. And so James, why not sit with your dad while TCM is on the TV? (...just make sure it's not a Lizabeth Scott movie that's on at the time, 'cause THAT might confuse the Ol' Man even further here, ya know)

Yep Dothery, I read James' posts in this thing yesterday also, and think his comments pretty much are the only way one could realistically look at this whole thing given the information we know. But hey, did ya hear the one that goes....... (...sorry, couldn't resist)