Dargo2
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Ya know, come to think of it here MR.R, our boy Fly here HAS always seemed to have some kinda Leo Gorcey thing goin' on around here, huh!
(...except I don't ever recall him referring to that Jimmy Doolittle raid movie as "Toidy Seconds Over Tokyo"! or that postwar Carol Reed movie as "The Toid Man"!)
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Here's the definite answer to this:
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Well, I really don't wanna get into all this "OH so important" issue of "Who deserves 'credit' for the whole "Hitchcock/Egg McGuffin" joke thing here again, 'cause the LAST time I tried to get good ol' Fred to understand that the only reason he came up with that was because I implied that whole "McDonald's" thing previous to his in some old "Hitchcock" related thread it all got kinda UGLY 'cause it appeared he didn't feel like sharing "authorship credit" for this obvious joke, AND you KNOW how he just HATES to ever be corrected about anything! LOL
(...and I guess just ONE of the reasons the poor old guy has me on his Ignore function now!!!)
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HEY! Has somebody finally taken me off his Ignore function here???
(...well, that WOULD be the only way to discover a "violation" of some imagined "copyright infringement", wouldn't IT???!!!)
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(...this one's much too easy...)
Yeah, I'd say the first clue about Uncle Charlie bein' a "bit off" was that first morning scene after he arrives into town, and where he asks his sister if she'd mind making him an Egg McGuffin for breakfast.
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Gee, thanks for the "Spoiler Alert" here, Fly!
(...though at least I suppose as I watch the ending tomorrow, I'll now have at least SOMETHIN' to look forward to anyway: If that German pilot actually DOES look like E.G. Marshall...don't worry, I'll let cha know if I agree with ya on that or not!)
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Yep, maybe!
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I'd sure like to know how this rumor that "Ozzie Nelson didn't have a job" got started. Of COURSE Ozzie had a job!
(...he ran the Dagwood Bumstead School of Fatherhood out of his basement office located at 1822 Camino Palmero St. Los Angeles, CA 90046)
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Well dang if ya didn't there, MissW! I liked your scenario there...especially the whole bar scene.
(...then what say we just chalk this all us to what you suggested here...that whole "great minds" thing)
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Yeah, exactly!
And as I mentioned, it often seemed as if poor ol' John Litel was often the guy that Louis B, had doin' the speechifyin' TOO...though not in those particular shorts.
Remember those series of two-reelers where he played the father, Ann Doran(also in Pitfall as Powell's secretary) played the mother, and their kid with the dog, and how those flicks pretty much consisted of Litel doin' nothin' but dispensing one "life lesson" after another to the poor kid? LOL
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Re the John Litel scene, Tom...yeah, I suppose you have a point about the cops possibly being able to stop any bloodshed. I just thought that "scolding" scene at first thought seemed as if tacked on because of some possible Production Code requirement at that time that would've stated something to the effect of, "Even the case of justifiable homicide, the public must then listen to a speech about how our Men in Blue are here to Serve and Protect".
(...and who better than Litel to DO that, as the guy seemed to do THAT very thing in half the movies he was ever in!) LOL
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DVR'd this movie and just finished watching it. My appraisal: A very well done film.
The acting was very good all around, even Lizabeth Scott's, of whom I've never thought that good an actress. The direction, cinematography capturing Mid-Century L.A., the script and dialogue, and the pacing was excellently done in my view, also.
The only thing I question in the storyline was near the end and when John Litel as the District Attorney "scolds" Powell by saying all this could have been avoided if he would have just called the police, as all I could think was how would the police have stopped a crazed and drunken Smiley without resorting to gunplay, or even beforehand, how would or could the police have dissuaded the stalking and obsessed MacDonald (Burr) character to cease his actions, especially because of his police connections.
Overall, and especially for a nourish film, which very often have holes in the plot large enough to drive a 1948 Yellow Cab through, this film seemed to have few if any of them and all the actions of the characters seemed logically driven.
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Don't worry mark, I didn't think you did...sound overly critical, that is. And thus the reason for the following addendum to my post down there when I wrote my earlier response to you:
>(...though I know you really knew this, I just wanted to lament this fact here)
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Yeah, I'd say the first half of your post here, the half where you question the whole "cause and effect" thing the movie in question here has been accused of over the years, sounds like a reasonable answer to all that.
However, in regard to your opinions expressed in the second half of your post and your suppositions in regard to your history of the Pilgrim's plight in particular, I suggest you watch the following linked video here, as of course there are ALWAYS two or more ways to look at ANY issue...
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Yep, as evidenced by some of Curtis' interviews with David Letterman on his program over the years.
(...and in particular his less than discretionary BUT extremely funny anecdote which included the names of Walter Matthau and Yvonne De Carlo...it's also on YouTube if you're not familiar with it)
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Now what kinda talk is THAT here, Fly???
I take it you're not an advocate of Jim Morrison's thought that, "The west is the best", eh?!
(...and now "this is the end" of my reply here)
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Mitchum was never the most demonstrative gent in these sorts of settings to ever become a major star, ya know James, and with Robert De Niro taking over this mantle in more recent times, in my opinion.
However, I remember this Osborne/Mitchum interview which you speak of, and I remember thinking that for a man who always seemed to be almost embarrassed about his choice of acting as his life's work, that he came across as somewhat open to the idea of expressing at least some of his personal thoughts and opinions in regard to his long career. And thus, I at least didn't feel it was a waste of my time to view that interview, and just as I also felt the same while listening to Orco's father interviewing him over the phone here.
(...if you want "demonstrative", then listen to Orco's dad interviewing the very outgoing Don Ameche on that list...and in this regard, Gregory Peck's anecdotes about his working with Hitchcock were I thought also highly entertaining)
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>P.S. Sepiatone, I hope you don't mind that I corrected your spelling. Joe Cotten never done picked a bale of cotton in his life, far as I know.
Nope, maybe not, but I STILL say he's REALLY David Letterman's DAD!!!
(...and so he MUST have been doin' SOMETHIN' that time he passed through Indiana, anyway!)
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Sure, I suppose that Brian Hyland song might qualify here, or maybe any song sung by this guy here...
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All this talk of "Cinerama", "Smilebox" and such now reminds me of Disneyland's now gone "Circle-Vision 360" theater which would sometimes cause some in the audience to experience mild nausea while watching the film which featured some of the more picturesque locales in America and from the perspective of the camera(s) mounted on board a flying aircraft.
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True. It would seem slayton's example of BOAN here would be hard top in this regard, and that any other suggestions offered up would come below it on such a list.
(...though it is a fun mental exercise to attempt to find others, isn't it)
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My thought was not so much the particular story of the Joads' plight, Andy, but that the idea that "Californee is the place to be" was the main idea of it, and as a certain other family's story would be told later on in a certain 1960's sitcom.
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I think your suggestion of "The Wild One" a very good example here, Andy.
That film would for years seem to cement in the minds of the general public that most motorcyclists were somehow "outside the norm and prone to be rebellious", and until the Honda Motorcycle Corp would begin to change that misperception by use of their "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" advertisements in the early '60s.
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I don't think slayton's question was oftered up by him to be about the influence certain films would have upon the styles of later directors of films here Ham, and which from what I gathered after hitting your link it seemed Roger Ebert's article was about. Instead, I think Slayton's thread was supposed to be about the influence a certain film would have upon the mindset of the general public.
And so with this in mind, I would suggest the possibility that John Ford's "The Grapes of Wrath" might've helped spur the massive western movement of Easterners to "The Promised Land" of California just before and after the Second World War.
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And all perfectly normal and natural human thoughts here, MissW.
EXCEPT of course if you also happen to have a picture of this lady hangin' on your wall...
...and each time you pass it you think to yourself: "Some day! SOME day!"