Dargo2

Uh huh...SEE Andy?! Didn't I TELL YA "I couldn't wait 'til Tom sees what ya said here"?!!! (...and here you thought havin' to read MY rebuttal to ya was a chore, HUH?!) LOL

Yeah, and even though Ava WAS startin' to get that "Mary Astor matronly look" by the time this movie was filmed, huh! (...eeeh, I don't care...she STILL looked pretty darn hot to ME anyway!) LOL

>I'd love to see a remake with the coup coming off successfully. Well, I suppose an alternate ending like that shouldn't be that hard to come up with and still be somewhat believable, Fly my man! Uh huh, all the Scott character has to do is whip up a little more public frenzy about "Weapons of Mass Destruction" before he takes over, and I think your idea might not be considered that far out there in the grand schemes of things. (...I mean, somethin' similar to that HAS worked before in REAL life, RIGHT?!...though I have to admit I'm more than a little proud that I never bought into any of THAT from DAY ONE...nope, but to this very DAY I'm STILL wonderin' how the usually intelligent COLIN did???!!!) LOL

Aaah, but Andy, I guess you haven't heard the latest news from Tinseltown then, eh?! Spielberg's new version is going to spotlight and star Ms. Bullock as "Thomasina Joad", who with her family starts out upon "The Mother Road" as a frumpy little Okie, and who by the time they reach the "Promise Land" of California has buttlerfly-ed into not ONLY a beautiful and self-assured young lady, but ALSO a tough-as-nails resistance fighter for the Down-and-Out and against the corruption of Big Agriculture!

So, does this mean you're shuttin' down this baby then, MissW??? (...and if ya ARE, then I gotta say I had NO idea that you were as flighty as the Canadian weather?!!!) LOL

>I don't agree with some of the choices in the youtube video. She left out the most handsome ones but at least they are in TCM top 50 Leading Men book McQueen Cagney and Crosby. Yeah, well, as we know cb, these kinds of lists are always much more subjective than they are objective, However, and once again, how anyone could think EITHER McQueen or Cagney and maybe most especially Der Bingle(and all of whom I like and think were very talented, btw) could POSSIBLY be "more handsome" than Cary Grant or Robert Taylor or Paul Newman or Gregory Peck or Burt Lancaster is STILL beyond my evidently "limited powers of comprehension"!!! (...but yeah, I guess I get that you're not into "pretty boys", EH?!...well, it's either THAT, or all those "pretty boys" were just too tall for your tastes here, EH?!) LOL

>OTOH many a current or recent Hollywood star could step into one of Errol Flynn's "swashbuckling" roles and do just as well as he did. Aplogies to Flynn fans out there, but his talent lay in his looks and his athleticism, not in his ability to portray character. You could find replacements for Errol Flynn types today in the gyms of every American city, complete with kinky backstory to keep the gossipmongers in thrall. Ooooh...I can't WAIT 'til Tom up there in Canada sees THIS comment! LOL And sorry Andy, but before our Canadian friend DOES see this comment of yours, I have to say while YOU might think this, I've noticed a surprising number of people who have come to a different conclusion about Flynn's film acting ability over the years. In fact, Bette Davis, not a bad actress herself, who was known to have disparaged Flynn's acting when they worked together, was said to have had a change of heart about his talent upon further reflection in her later years. Yep, I have to say I used to believe as you do about the old drunkard and ladies man myself, but once I started noticing how well he could relay many of his characters' inner emotions with just the slightest variance in his eyes and the rest of his face, I too have come around to Bette's(and Tom's) way of thinking about how well Errol could act on film.

I remember all this kinda stuff because of my wife's very observant comment about her husband..."He has a mind full of useless information!" LOL

Why, THIS of course, Lavender my dear!... (...which btw, as a kid watching this first run back in the early '60s, I had NO idea why "Stoney" was to be "Slave Boy" in his next movie, but now of course understand the "inside joke" that it was most likely due to his portraying one of Spartacus' rebel slaves) Edited by: Dargo2 on Jul 23, 2013 9:22 AM

Well actually you two, you're BOTH wrong. Ya see, the REAL story is that Curtis made that comment to his agent after being told he was to guest star on "The Flintstones". (...Stoney..ahem, sorry..I mean TONY thought it was beneath him to do that, ya see..and he was probably right!)

Eeh! finance's jokes don't "suck", dark! Nope, ya see, the man's jokes basic premises are usually pretty clever, BUT all he needs to do is just "embellish" 'em a little more, THAT'S all!. (...aaah, but alas because his mantra has always been: "Brevity is the soul of wit", doin' somethin' like THAT just runs counter to his basic nature!) LOL

I know how ya feel, Hibi. As I've said in one of these Carson threads, I was hoping that last night's Burt Reynolds segment would have been the one where Burt tells how as a couple of young struggling actors, he and Clint Eastwood were told by some producer that they'd never make it in Hollywood, and how he missed out being in one of Gable's last movies. (...and which of course once again would have been more pertinent to TCM's regular programing than a lot of talk about Judy Carne and ex-wives) Edited by: Dargo2 on Jul 23, 2013 8:49 AM

Uh huh...In fact for a short time he conducted the Manila Philharmonic. (...and where he would keep all of his sheet music in a manila envelope between performances, of course)

Nope, but I believe he once told me that he was the third cousin twice removed of Count Basie! (...hmmmm...or was is Duke Ellington?..well, ONE of those guys anyway)

YEAH! As a matter o' fact IT WAS, dark! In fact, Phil's nickname was "Fang"! (...and so you can probably guess which "Phyllis" we're talkin' about here, can't ya!)

Not to "poo-poo" this series, because while it HAS been somewhat fun chuckling again at the interaction and repartee Johnny is having with his guests, but once I really thought about it after tonight's interview with Bette Davis in which she shared some of her thoughts about working at WB back in the day, well, this particular one is about as close as any of Johnny's guests have come to making this series pertinent to TCM's regular programing.

HA! That's nothin' Sans! I once knew a guy from Philly named Phil who owned a Phillips 66 filling station, but who was ALSO a gardener who grew AND sold philodendrons as a side business during the oil embargo of '73! (...oh, yeah, and I almost forgot to mention...the dude cheated on his wife ALL the time TOO, the philandering so-and-so!)

Well first, studio era "movie stars" were under contract, and often those contracts required them to make as many as half a dozen or more movies a year in those movie "factories"...and something of which Bette Davis alluded to during her turn tonight on the Johnny Carson TCM segments. Secondly(Fred), Kathleen Turner has as gotten "fat and old" because of her contracting extreme Rheumatoid arthritis and the medication which was required to combat her disease. Thirdly(and the following is just my own opinion here), but yes, in general, the "movie stars" of the studio just seemed more "mature" or "adult" than do their modern equivalents. This could possibly be all due to the seemingly ever more increasing trend in America to prize the "Youth Culture", and the ever more increasing trend of the movie-GOING public of being younger and younger.

>...Tony just had a big mouth and said whatever he felt like saying at the time and didn't think much about it. Yeah, BUT sometimes it was sure funny as hell... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euYrpg-j54E

Well then Nora, all I can say here is that once you DO catch Kiss Me, Stupid, you will most likely have a new "benchmark" to use as your "least favorite Wilder movie"!!! (...well, at least I've got MY money on it, anyway!)

Well Twink my dear, while I DO appreciate you being Fred's "mouthpiece" here..LOL..I gotta ask ya somethin': Have you priced an original in good to perfect shape Eames Chair lately??? Ya see, they're ANTHING but "cheap", either price-wise, style-wise OR construction-wise. (...once again my dear, this is NOT a matter of Fred OR you being "right", but IS a matter of your own "personal taste", and NOT a matter of "failing" in either the marketplace OR even by some other's opinion, in "style")

(I don't know why I'm even bothering with the following as you apparently have me on ignore, BUT....) >And so much of it was so ugly, such as that big fish fountain. LOL. This was the 1950s answer to the next step beyond Art Deco, but it failed. Because you included that picture of that home in your thread, sorry, you couldn't be more wrong here, Fred...at least about the styles in architecture anyway. "Mid-Century Modern" has never been a "hotter" trend than since its first introduction over half a century ago now. And so, while YOU may not like that style as much as the Deco styles of the pre-code movie era, to use the word "failed" in your premise would not be correct, but just an expression of your personal taste. (...ya see folks, THIS is why Fred has me on ignore, 'cause he HATES IT whenever I correct his "errors" OR just disagrees with him!!!) LOL

>Since Cagney is 95% of ONE TWO THREE, how can the movie be bad if Cagney is good? Nobody ever accused Wilder of writing a bad screenplay. If ya don't mind here finance, I'll attempt to answer this for ya. As far as I could ever tell and after watching this film maybe three or four times, is that for whatever reason, the rapid-fire dialogue delivery in it(and by ALL the actors involved in it, not just Cagney) just doesn't work.(at least for me, anyway) Nope, sorry, but all I've ever felt was that it was "trying too hard" to be clever and topical.

Have to say selim, as far as I can tell from that trailer, I don't think the premise IS to "sympathize" with Travers, who it appears Emma Thompson is portraying as the rigid, standoffish and closed-minded ultimate Anglophile in this thing. Nope, I'm getting the idea from that trailer that this film's main theme might possibly be to explore the differences or the "culture clash" between the stereotypical American commercial "crassness" of a "Disney-fied" world, and that of a more "orderly" world of old "English values".

> But I guess people rather see a more faggasey Robin Hood. LOL Well cb, to kinda paraphrase what I said a little earlier in this baby..."He(Errol Flynn) ain't 'faggasey', he's just British...okay, TASMANIAN in this case, THAT'S all!" LOL You suuuuure have it bad for little Jimmy, dontcha???!!! LOL (...yeah, yeah, I KNOW..."Don't ever call him 'little'" huh!..'cause he was a "strapping" 5-8, BUT tough as the streets of New York City!!!) LOL Edited by: Dargo2 on Jul 21, 2013 6:04 PM