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> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}Not to mention wardrobe! Ugly outfit.........*I bet Lana got a limo and all the perks though........* It's from the Blanche Deveraux Morning Collection. *I dunno on that second one*...I'm telling you: this thing was done *cheap.* I think they sent the massive woody station wagon they used in the film to pick her up in the morning and that doubled as her dressing room Joan Crawford in Trog! style.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}He should've received an Oscar nomination for many of his film roles. Sadly, he had to die before getting one........ Robinson, right? If that's the case, then seconded. Glenn Ford rates no better than "meh" in my book, even in movies that are really good.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}What male actors have played identical twins? Isn't Lily Tomlin close enough to qualify?

in keeping with the obscure nature of the film, google images only has one image of Lana in Bittersweet, but-yes- she is rocking one of the caftans: 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Sersely: this film needs to be shown in every film school on the day they teach the importance of FILTERS and LIGHTING.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}What other actresses have played identical twins in a film, other than Bette Davis in A STOLEN LIFE? you always ask such easy questions: Olivia DeHavilland in The Dark Mirror, and Bette Midler and Lily Tomlin in Big Business immediately come to mind. ps- the twin showing of The White Tower is what boggles my mind. pss- Glenn Ford seems to have as many birthdays as Burt Lancaster.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}Yes, it did get a release. Not much of one. *I remember when it came out.* One of those saturation bookings that played out in a week or two. (Drive Ins and Downtown theaters who booked low grade product)... > *Get out.* *For real?* There is NOTHING related to it on youtube and only barebones entries on wiki and imdb. I mean, it's a film that deserved to fall between the cracks, but still...

> {quote:title=Sepiatone wrote:}{quote} > Sounds like what JEFF FOXWORTY'S "****" would call a "fun, family film". > > Sepiatone > No, whole other direction. They were trying for a bargain-basement Douglas Sirk kind of thing. I truly hope Jon Waters has seen this movie some time in his life.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}Are they really showing Alice In Wonderland Friday? WOW! > So sez the sched. And they have been running the trailer for it sporadically, and it looks *triiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppy!*

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}LOL, Addy. Where is that picture from? Google image search: "fop."

Thank you. You KNOW Lana was **** when she saw the way the thing turned out. I think because of the director's credits, people assumed it was being shot professionally. And, yes, she was close to unrecognizable at times. And that wardrobe! ps- did the UTTER LACK OF RESOLUTION to the story bother you? I know there were *a lot* of things wrong with this film, but that's a flaw that stands out to me as particularly egregious. Seriously: everything's hanging at the end: the status of the relationships between the husbands and wives and the parents and children...not even adequate final scenes or scenes that hinted they were final scenes for all involved....the scene with Holme visting the mother in the hospital ended at "no just me"; Lana's final shot was- I think- her working the caftan atop the staircase in some rented, vacant location, BADLY framed- vacant looks between her and the husband. Some serious cocaine was going down somewhere behind the scenes on this thing. There's no way I would guess it was anything other than a first (and last) time directorial effort by someone who was blackmailing someone or working under the guidance of someone looking to produce a six-figure tax write off. ...or a TV movie. Did this thing even get a release? Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 12:53 PM

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}Did they go ahead and get married anyway? (Incest is best! ) They were already married and expecting when they find out (Lana remembers a tryst with the father of the husband, which yes- makes them half brother andc sister, but it's still a whole "ew!")

Bittersweet Love. Did I hallucinate or was thing thing on yesterday at 6:00 PM as part of the Celeste Holme B-Day tribute: 197?, dir: David Miller, st: Lana Turner, Meredith Baxter (nee' Burney), Holme and...um, some people who I'm sure were on Murder, She Wrote years later. plot: a married couple expecting a child discover that are *actually brother and sister.* No Maltin review, this one is under even his standards. It was *appaling trash.* BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADLY shot. I mean, some amatuer porn movies from the seventies looked less (or at least equally) amatuer. Bad framing, AAAAAAAAAAAAWFUL LIGHTING. I think the camera wobbled in some scenes, the stabilization was off in others, I'm sure I missed a few boom mic drops. I mean, the guy who directed it was a BIG TIME HOLLYWOOD director (sorta) back in the day with a lot of credits to his name- among them Sudden Fear! and Captain Newman MD, this looked like some community theater BS. I don't know, I don't want to spend too much time getting in to it if no one else saw it or if this thread- like the movie- dies an anonymous death as mankind decides to collectively shy away- but *if you saw this movie, please share what- if anything- you thought.* Serious John Waters territory. ps- Holme had the sh*ttiest role *ever.* pss- Lana wore a caftan. And a head scarf and had three credits for make-up, hair and wardrobe. psss- brother and sister, yeah. pssss- thank you TCM for showing it though, it certainly captivated me...although I felt a real sense of shame when I was done watching it. psssss- I'm hard to shame. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 10:56 AM Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 10:59 AM

...and speaking of *hot new premieres(?):* *HOLY S***: 1933 Alice in Wonderland IS SHOWING THIS FRIDAY AT 8:00!!!!!!* *(HOW AWESOME IS THAT?)* See: Osborne could've suggested that to Drew instead of Auntie Mame. He might've even blown her mind.

mon boeuf with the whole Essentials / Guest Programmer bag is that it is *played out.* The concept needs to be retired or changed or tweaked or morphed and whoever books these people to come to Atlanta? NYC? to talk about these films needs to work as hard as the folks in the acquisitions dept. have in getting some new and different films on TCM when it comes to thinking outside the box in acquiring "talent" to discuss said films. I think, yes, there are celebrity/personality/film critic/ persons on the street who can introduce certain films made sometime between 1920 (hell, even the Melies stuff) and 1995 and *people will watch and be inn-terested and influenced and inspired and possibly even lured to the channel.* But Cher and Mildred Pierce doesn't entirely get there, and- forget her contributions on their merits or her chemistry (?) with Robert- Drew's choices are *a bore*...as were (largely) Baldwin's. But, Lord love a duck: *the same thirty titles have basically been done the eff to death.* And I won't even make specific citations, because *we all know them already.* *But then on the other hand,* there has been this *magnificent infusion of new and unusual titles on TCM and they HAVE started to semi-retire some of the Usual Suspects...* I just wish the heads at TCM could combine this GP need they seem to feel they have, THINK OUTSIDE "THE BOX" on it and incorporate it with the "new blood" of films they've imported over the last couple of years. Inn-teresting (or at least semi-qualified, or at least really enthusiastic) people saying inn-teresting things about inn-teresting movies from which we *can all-* aficianado and newbie- *look forward to seeing and possibly enjoy and/or learn from.* ps- people just can't be *that hard* to book. pss- or scrap the whole damn concept *and save some money.* psss- I sez bring back Winona and Chris Isaak poimanently. psss- Chemistry? He manages not to periodically reach over and thump the melon looking for brains, that's all the chemistry I get. Maybe they edit that out. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 10:09 AM Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 10:39 AM Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 30, 2013 10:41 AM

Oh, it's been so long since we had a nice, lovely *feud.* And things have been so dreadfully dull lately! singing: " A feud, a feud, a feud, we're going to have a feud! It's not as fun as a scandal but still, we're going to have a feud: huzzah!"

> {quote:title=lavenderblue19 wrote:}{quote}Why do you continue with this? Give it up. Drew is co-host for this installment of The Essentials, and that's that. You have made your cracks, your dislike and disdain known over and over and over and over again. Why? What a BORE I'm not bored. Drew is a bottomless well of comedy; and the proposition that she merits a gig cohosting *any* sort of retospective on film and offering her viewpoints on what constitutes acting or filmaking is nothing but yucks for fathoms and fathoms....oh wait, *the irony. I forgot the sheer, stupifying irony of it all.* and... combine that with the fact that her choices have been (from day one): YAWNSVILLE CITY, USA POP: NO ONE and it just puts the whole dubious (and frankly shortsighted) venture in the same territory as being taken by your friend's nitwit girlfriend- who won't ever shut up and who portends to be an aficianado of five-star cuisine- to an Olive Garden wherein she keeps going on and on about the ambience of the decor and the way "the texture of the breadsticks evolves in your mouth." ps- chutzpah is now officially to be spelled "hootspah." I make the new decree. pss- she picked Gaslight foer crying out loud. psss- Drew Barrymore directed a movie about roller derby racers. I'm just throwing that in because whenever she starts waxing about the mise-en-scene of something I always yell some variation of that fact at the tv. pssss- you think Drew secretly lives in fear of the fact that some day she'll wake up and boom!: there's Ethel staring back at her in the mirror? Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 29, 2013 10:55 AM

for my money, it doesn't get better than this:

> {quote:title=movielover11 wrote:}{quote} > Lee J Cobb - something about him, can't put my finger on it EW! And not many of us would want to put a finger on it! (hey- to each their own.)

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote}movielover, I think you might be the first person to have mentioned Vivien Leigh on this thread. Nope, she was mentioned somewhere around pages 2-3. Talk about lovely ladies of the screen and Vivvie's name will come up for sure.

{quote:title=calvinnme wrote: "}{quote}One question he might be able to answer - *Where is "Night Walker"? It was made in 1964, it's a William Castle film." It's on youtube in full. Click on this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCogrUV8gv4 Or go to youtube and type in "the night walker 1964" into the search bar. it's not the best way to watch a film, but hey, it's something. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 23, 2013 8:11 AM

someone's feeling left out...

> {quote:title=clore wrote:}{quote} > > 1. Perhaps we'll really get to see what happened when Jose Ferrer gets a few minutes alone with O'Toole. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. For the record, I didn't see any need for them to show FOR A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS twice this month either. > 1. *"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA* *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"* 2 Yeah, the Leone-palooza was a snooze, *but* those films are very popular, esp. among some people who might tune in to the net for the first time *and* they've not been shown to death...*yet.* So I can't fault 'em on that. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 22, 2013 12:36 PM

> {quote:title=FlyBackTransformer wrote:}{quote} who wants to see Drew Barrymore again? :_| God not me, BUT Lest we forget, TCM has to rent these films whilst not pulling in any ad revenue, being a niche network in the big and volatile sea of CABLETELEVISION, paying their staff and paying for the on-air "talent." Plus they got competition galore from the internet, netflix, fox movies channel, attention deficit disorder and the decline of western civilization. that they've dropped as many premieres on us in the last two years as they have really means something.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}I'm surprised no one started a thread on Unfaithfully Yours (I guess I shouldnt be surprised, as debuts seldom do any more). I had never seen it. Unfortunately, this was a film that turned out (for me) not to be worth the wait. Didnt think it was funny or cared for it at all, but I'm glad TCM finally showed it......... Yeah, I "rented" Unfaithfully Yours from Netflix a few years back and couldn't even finish it. It is a shame that les premieres don't get the kind of attention that the "Oh God, not again!" threads do. On that note, I checked out the schedule for Tuesday night. I had ASSumed that Laaaaaaaaaawrence! would be on at 8:00 (they've been showing the trailer a lot.) But no, not only is it the bumper end of the night, *but it is preceded by two cool titles:* the *1950 version of Treasure Island* which I have never seen, but which I understand contains a major performance by Robert Newton and surely some stunning visuals; and another of the Universal Horrors freed from their AMC shackles (at last)- *James Whale's* *The Invisible Man,* which has aired a coupla' times on TCM in the last few years and which they are welcome to show as much of as they like. *So no, I have to say tomorrow night's line-up contains far more to be praised than knocked.* PS- REALLY THOUGH, think about giving Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawrence! a rest for a bit after this though. We're close to hitting marrow on it. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on Apr 22, 2013 12:24 PM