AddisonDeWitless

I have to give a shout-out to two of the lesser known Hepburn/Tracy joints: The Sea of Grass (1947) and Keeper of the Flame (1942?) The first is directed by Elia Kazan, although he allegedly "disowned" the film he was so peeved that MGM demanded he use rear projection as opposed to location shooting- (to be honest, the rear projection looks perfectly fine to me.) Nonetheless it's really compelling, well-done and damn ahead of it's time. The best word I can think of for the whole thing is: *complicated.* A lot of the time Tracy and Hepburn play couples with issues, but we know they'll work it out in the end. This one, notsomuch. three and a half out of four. The second was their second film together, an almost immediate follow-up to Woman of the Year, a kind of rare suspense thriller for both- and probably the most undermentioned of their films (with the possible exception of Without Love, which is okay, but a little too long and light on laughs.) I read somewhere it was held over at Radio City Music hall for a few weeks- I've read it described as not successful by others (not that that deserves much thought either way.) Along with Stage Door and The Philadelphia Stoey, it's a good example of how Hepburn (and others) cleverly worked with the percieved image of her as an icy, aloof, even arrogant figure to put her performances across and it has a rather surprising twist at the end with some good dialogue to go with.. three out of four. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 24, 2013 10:07 AM

*"LEAVE MANKSIE ALONE!!!!!!!!* you're lucky he even INTRODUCES movies for you B*****DS!!!!!!!! " PS- Thanks. It's been so everso dull around these parts of late. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 24, 2013 9:50 AM

One movie that was a seminal influence on my lifelong passion for gardening was Howard's End (1992). As for the movie: eh. It doesn't end, it stops; and I'm not really sure just what it has to say about anything, but it is lovely to look at.

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote}Isn't that called trompe de l'oeil or something? ? (did my pic post okay?)

You *do* realize this means that the Entertainment Industry has reached such a sorry state that even a series of casual, humorous, and theoretically exagerrated and/or lightly sarcastic remarks about what we can expect of their product prove to be *true* ? Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 23, 2013 1:29 PM

You really think it took a whole day to shoot?

Like Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter ? Nah, nobody, even in present-day HOLLYWOOD would be that insane.

I'm surprised more people haven't brought up how jarringly different this look at family life is from any single comedy made the entire decade before that I've seen. It has a downright continental attitude towards boredom, wanderlust, roving eyes, and even adultery (the subplot with John Saxon's tryst with the Svedish neigh-boor is handled in a way that is downright pre-code Lubitsch.) *And Jimmy Stewart cusses, at least twice.*

Thanks for the reply. I feel so validated! ps- A Warner Bros. picture from the 1940's with a grandiose musical score? (feigns surprise) Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 22, 2013 8:56 PM

re: Poster. O.M.G. PS- Why does the lady whom I presume is the titual daughter wearing a Rastafarian Beer Helmet?

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}You've got to have more than just the guy's name in the title. That has no pizazz.......For Lincoln, ABE LINCOLN IN ILLINOIS or YOUNG MR. LINCOLN. Just ABE LINCOLN would have been a real snoozer. Imagine what dumb idea it would be to do a Lincoln bio-pic and just call it Lincoln. Man, no one would see that s***.

who can forget this epic moment in our culture? : 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Is it just me or has no one mentioned Samuel Fuller's I Shot Jesse James (1949) thus far? I'm mentioning it, but in mentioning it I mention that it only barely rates a mention. (It's not particularly good.)

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}It's Barry White, and Berry Gordy. 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Seriously though: *Berry?*

well, gimme some better alternates then. you're fast on your feet, I'm sure you can come up with something good. Dead or Alive ? The James Brothers Ride? The Life and Death of Jesse James? Barry Gordy Presents: Jesse James meets Cleopatra Wong in the Temple of Funk ? Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 21, 2013 10:48 AM

> {quote:title=WhyaDuck wrote:}{quote} > > I see what the starter of this thread is getting at.....and yes, Tyrone Power as Jesse does get upstaged by Fonda and Carradine .... > Actually, no. There were many problems with the film, but one of the biggest was how *shamefully underused and underdeveloped* pretty much every character but Jesse James was. I get that Tyrone Power was THE BIG STAR, and he was the reason the film did so, so well (and Power looked great and did a pretty good job)- but the film really suffers because Frank James and Robert Ford were so blatantly pushed into the background for most of it. So no, Fonda and Carradine in no way upstaged Power, they never really got the chance to. ps- great actors both though. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 21, 2013 8:40 AM

Dear Ray, So glad you dropped in. Help me out here: I know you're the soundtrack expert: *am I nuts, or was there almost no score througout the entire movie Jesse James? Just the occasional 5-second music cue....* (I don't know why this has become such an obsession of mine, but I'd say the film's lack of a soundtrack was one of its number one faults.) Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 21, 2013 8:33 AM

Yup, count me in on the Hatorade party too. Tried watching Flint and it was so *dishwater dull* I couldn't make it thru the first fifteen minutes. Watched almost all of The Silencers because I really like Dean Martin- who I'd put on *any* list of most underrated actors *any* time- and I kept hoping Victor Buono would show up more, and Dalia Lavi (did I spell that right? Who cares? She was fine as hell. ) And there were enough briefly funny-ish moments to keep one sort of kinda into it but overall, yeah... Ick.

> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote} > > Black Widow has issues (which were discussed in detail back in March April after it was shown), but I wouldn't say it was terrible (which to me is a 1 out of 5 ranking). > > > In addition the real Addison would have something more to say in his criticism than just the same old 'it stinks'. > Yes, the Black Widow: the end of the studio era -titled thread started by Fred C. Dobbes (sp?) was a lengthy, and sometimes contentious, but ultimately quite inn-teresting one. I think though that we were pretty much divided into two camps: 1. It f-ing sucked (which sometimes, believe me, is far more apt than three solid pages of articulate criticism) vs. 2. It wasn't that bad. I am heartily and unapologetically with the first camp and intend to say no more on the matter.

This is some of my own work (hope it posts properly.) I am a miniature garden enthusiast.

(I'd still kick the kids out and get to work with me own vision though.)

Okay, actually I google imaged the garden from the 1993 version: Pretty nice actually...it's been a loooooong time since I saw it, maybe I should check it out again.

It's inn-teresting to me that, maybe the ne plus ultra of garden-themed stories, *The Secret Garden* has never had a fully fitting representation in *any* screen version- *most definitely true of the titular garden itself.* The unfortunate Margaret O'Brien (sp?) 1949 MGM version doesn't make the garden itself enough of a focus, choosing instead to pile on the MGM-brand treacle and using a distracting and disjarring technique of only using color in the garden scenes (obviously a studio set) The 1987 Hallmark Hall of Fame version of the story is notable for the baaaaaaaaaaaaaad acting of the chidren and the fact that the garden itself- while more of a star than in the 1949 version- *is the most meticulously trim, clipped, manicured and edged thing I have ever seen.* It is flawless, and I respect that- but I think it's a trifle anachronistically so in that I don't believe Echo made edgers and grass trimmers in the early 1900's. (seriously, the course at St. Andrews is less well-manicured than this thing.) The nineteen-ninety-something Coppola-produced version has some inn-teresting visuals, but honestly- I found the garden to be too messy (although it was probably the closest thing to what three children would maintain, but just too au natural for me.) I'd kick the kids out and go to town with the clippers. *Somewhere between the latter two version lies the garden as I think it should be.* Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 20, 2013 9:11 PM

I hesitate somewhat to post the following as it is from wikipedia, and I know they have issues with accuracy (and I don't know what kind of math they're using, whether they adjust for inflation and whether they're factoring in re-release and even VHS/DVD data, but here goes: TOP 2O HIGHEST GROSSERS OF 1939 .1. [Gone with the Wind|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_with_the_Wind_%28film%29|Gone with the Wind (film)] Selznick International Pictures/MGM $400,176,459 2. [Jesse James|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_James_%281939_film%29|Jesse James (1939 film)] 20th Century Fox 3. [Gunga Din|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunga_Din_%28film%29|Gunga Din (film)] RKO 4. [Mr. Smith Goes to Washington|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Smith_Goes_to_Washington|Mr. Smith Goes to Washington] Columbia 5. "[The Rains Came|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rains_Came|The Rains Came]" 20th Century Fox 6. [babes in Arms|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_Arms_%28film%29|Babes in Arms (film)] MGM 7. [Dodge City|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_City_%281939_film%29|Dodge City (1939 film)] 8. [The Women|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Women_%281939_film%29|The Women (1939 film)] MGM 9. [Goodbye, Mr. Chips|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye,_Mr._Chips_%281939_film%29|Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1939 film)] MGM 10. [The Wizard of Oz|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_film%29|The Wizard of Oz (1939 film)] MGM $16,538,431 11. [Drums Along the Mohawk|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drums_Along_the_Mohawk|Drums Along the Mohawk] 20th Century Fox 12. [stanley and Livingstone|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_and_Livingstone|Stanley and Livingstone] 20th Century Fox 13. [union Pacific|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_%28film%29|Union Pacific (film)] Paramount 14. [Ninotchka|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninotchka|Ninotchka] MGM 15. [Another Thin Man|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Thin_Man|Another Thin Man] 16. [The Old Maid|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Maid_%281939_film%29|The Old Maid (1939 film)] Warner Bros. 17. "[Hollywood Cavalcade|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Cavalcade|Hollywood Cavalcade]" 18. "[Destry Rides Again|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destry_Rides_Again|Destry Rides Again]" Universal 19. "[Andy Hardy Gets Spring Fever|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Hardy_Gets_Spring_Fever|Andy Hardy Gets Spring Fever]" MGM 20. Gulliver's Travels *so, according to them* Jesse James *is the #2 grosser of the year,* *right behind only GWTW!!!!* Which is not how The Hollywood Reporer Book of Box Office Hits says it went down, but that is a boring and crappy book and I have come across an error or two in it. It's worth noting also that Tyrone Power and Henry Fonda were also in other big grossers ( The Rains Came and Drums Along the Mohawk ) and that other westerns- Destry and Union Pacific did pretty well (in fact, Stagecoach which is often credited as being the film whose success revitalized the Western is nowhere on the list.) ps- weird too, I've always read The Women and Ninotchka were not successful at the box office. Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 20, 2013 8:44 PM Edited by: AddisonDeWitless on May 20, 2013 8:49 PM

This was a TCM premiere back in March(?) and it was inn-teresting because, the week(ish) before TCM showed Black Widow (1954?) also written by Nunnally Johnson, also featuring Reginald Gardiner and also done by 20th Century Fox. Black Widow is a terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible film, Mr. Hobbs is not. It's kind of raunchy (the Playboy joke!); it's certainly a departure for Stewart (doesn't he swear in his opening line?) and it's definitely a more straightforward and honest depiction of famile life than anything I can think of from the 1950's. In spite of some odd moments in the plot, I liked it.