Dothery
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Re: Classic Character Actors
Posted: Nov 4, 2012 12:52 PM
*Robert Morley*
To Walter Hudd in MAJOR BARBARA:
Be off with you my boy, and play with your historic parties, and leading articles, and burning questions, and the rest of your toys. And in return, you shall have the support and applause of my newspapers, and the delight of imagining that you're a great statesman.
He was a local character, as well as a character actor. Some friends of mine lived in his village in England and one day they came through the main intersection and he was standing on a stool in the middle of it, directing trafffic.
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Milburn "Doc" Stone. My partying buddy in San Diego. He was a doll when he was younger. He wasn't too bad when he was old, either. Always well dressed, handsome, courtly. I remember him with such pleasure in his company.
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To Groucho Marx in DUCK SOUP:
I've sponsored your appointment because I feel you are the most able statesman in all Freedonia.
I loved that Groucho said she never "got" any of the jokes. She couldn't see what was funny in what they said or did. I thought her not getting it was what made it funny. One of my most stunning memories is of Harpo punching her in the stomach over and over and Chico saying, "Oh, she can't take it there ..." Shocking but hilarious.
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Well yes, but it was specifically the men who went to war who's careers were interrupted. Not all were able to get back on keel when they returned.
That's true. I heard Victor Mature in a phone interview in his later years, who said when he came back from the Navy he was very fortunate in being able to get work again and get his career on track once more. Others weren't so lucky.
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You're right, he certainly had 'bedroom eyes', however, I always felt he was a bit too full of himself, a little too sure of himself.
I wonder if he was like that in real life?
According to Shirley MacLaine, his brother advised her that it was all over when she got a letter from Bob worded a certain way, after they'd been together for two years. He was dumping her, the brother said. It was the way he did it.
I don't know about his being sure of himself, but his wife was sure of him, in spite of his affairs. When someone asked his wife about his roving, she said, "Robert will never leave me." And he never did. I guess her putting up with him made him sure of himself.
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Nice pictures, TopBilled ... I loved Richard Greene, particularly. I think he was married to Patricia Medina when they made that movie. Looks a lot like Dennis Morgan in that poster, doesn't he?
Walter Brennan was my mother's boss's first cousin (we talked about her boss in the Dall thread). Their mothers were sisters. He used to come "home" to Swampscott, Massachusetts where he was born, for visits to the relatives. Walter was an amazing character. He had been in Central America raising pineapples for a considerable time when he was young. He'd been in World War I, and had lost some teeth as a result of mustard gas poisoning, and it gave him a career as an old man when he was still young, and enabled him to keep going without anyone noticing the transition.
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If Tyrone Power and Gene Tierney were the most attractive onscreen couple (THE RAZOR'S EDGE), any film with Beery and Dressler would feature the LEAST attractive couple.
I loved Tyrone Power. I thought he was the most beautiful man I'd ever seen, but I could never think of him as sexy. He was too mannered and perfect. Maybe for a few minutes in The Rains Came, when he falls apart because Myrna Loy is dying on him, he was close to being real. For the most part he was an Actor with a capital A, to me. I saw him onstage in "John Brown's Body" and he struck me that way then. I keep thinking I should see him in "Blood Alley," which I've never seen, and maybe I'd see another man.
I liked him personally. Not that I ever met him, but I saw him on Ed Murrow's "Person to Person," where he introduced his maid, a lady who was bringing in coffee, and she was shaking all over at the idea of being on camera, and he put his arm around her to steady her, and began talking soothingly to her, saying "You know we have guests all the time, and Mr. Murrow is just another guest," and began to laugh with her, and she calmed down. It was spontaneous and kind.
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Jack Benny wouldn't be anyone's idea of a matinee idol, though unlike his comedic persona he was a bright, generous soul who was easy to work with (and for). He apparently had a number of affairs throughout his life, including one with Canadian singer Gisele MacKenzie.
That's hilarious ... and I don't blame you for believing it ... but I saw her in an interview where she said he was so delighted when he read that they'd had an affair that he made her promise she'd never confirm or deny it, whether he was alive or dead, and she added, "and I never did." He loved Giselle and they were friends for years. Whether they had an affair or not, neither of them ever said.
Nobody can be absolutely certain about affairs unless the people themselves confirm that there was one, or unless someone was there in the room with them, but I doubt that Jack Benny had any. He was completely devoted to Mary and his daughter Joanie, and once when Mary had let fly in a conversation with Ann Sheridan, and told her Jack wouldn't trade her (Mary's) little finger for Ann's whole body, Jack said what a terrible thing that was to say to Ann. And Mary said, "I meant it," and Jack said, "You're right, doll. You don't ever have to worry about me."
Once a friend asked him why he was faithful to Mary, and he said, "She was with me through all the bad years, and then the good ones, and I could never do anything to embarrass her." Then he said, "I don't know why she did all that for me ... and I'm really a lousy lay."
The source for these quotes is Irving Fein, who was his manager of many years, and knew him probably better than anyone else. He's written a couple of books about Jack. His daughter Joan's book about him is great, too.
I loved him a lot. When he died, I read an article that said that although he hadn't believed in God during his life, he always wanted to, and just before his death someone from his early years in vaudeville began appearing to him. He told his valet Eddie that he saw this man, and was talking to him, and one day he said, "You know, Eddie, there is a heaven, and it's beautiful. And he took me there." He died very happy, knowing he was going to heaven.
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I don't know, Wallace Beery always struck me as a "Big Teddy Bear", maybe that's what made him soo popular!
Yuck. I couldn't like him onscreen, from what I'd read about him offscreen.
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Thank you, Dothery, for clearing that up. It certainly is an interesting 'what if...'
It was an interesting learning experience. It taught me how to research better. I had gone to every site I could think of, and didn't find the Kilgallen column until I actually asked about a possible marriage in the form of a question, and it took me to places where it mentioned Dall and Walker in the same title.
It also made me feel so sorry for Nancy W. She apparently loved him to death and he didn't love back, or at least not as much. They went together for quite a long time, as Broadway people go. He was in two big hits in succession, and she was in one, so they were flying high for a while.
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I remember Rod Cameron ... he was the guy who divorced his wife and married his mother-in-law! He was in a lot of westerns, one with Yvonne DeCarlo where he kissed her about 84 times in one scene. Made me swallow my gum from shock.
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But as for the female star with the least sexual charisma, it would have to be Judy Garland. Tons of talent and beautiful facial features...but no oomph.
I have to agree there. I was absolutely embarrassed for James Mason when he had to sit still while she sang and danced around their living room in "A Star Is Born."
In her private life, however, she was a pistol, according to her friends and lovers ... who knew?
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These are exciting developments, Dothery. You could very well be setting the record straight about a lost portion of Hollywood history.
Well, I can definitely set the record straight on this one. It wasn't John Dall. She was in LOVE with John Dall and it didn't work out. She married Gar Moore, a stage actor, and it lasted a year. So my face is red, but at least we have the facts, direct from Dorothy Kilgallen, who said Nancy carried a big torch for Dall for a long time and then married Moore.
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Well, heck, Sherri, just call me up and I'll recite it to you! I love that movie so much I watch it all through the year. There's not a line I don't know, including Uncle Felix's "kuch-kuch" Hungarian slang. It's a terrific movie. So if TCM doesn't show it, I pop it in the tape player and off we go. This allows me to back it up and look for the nonexistent bar in the den off the living room by the front door. It comes and goes in the movie.
Anyway ... I have it on hand for this year, but I cheated and watched it before Thanksgiving. I wonder if that's against the rules?
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Maybe I'll start with a story about my godson, who was a Marine stationed at Twenty-Nine Palms at the time. It was Easter Sunday and he went to Mass at the local Catholic church in Palm Springs. At the moment when everyone turns to shake hands with the others around him, he turned and found himself shaking hands with Frank Sinatra, Gregory Peck, Dudley Moore and Cary Grant, all sitting together. I don't know what his reaction was but I'll bet he was pretty knocked out. His mother wrote and told me about it.
Myself, I've met a few; not many. I met Fredric March when I was a teenager, also several stars making personal appearances in Boston, where I was a big theater goer. I met Jane Greer, a young man named Glenn Vernon (I fell in love with him immediately) who had been in a movie with Gregory Peck called "Days of Glory," Harold Lang (a very famous stage actor and dancer ... "Pal Joey" was his big hit) and a few others. I met a foreign actor I liked very much; Georges Rigaud, Very gracious and smart; spoke five or six languages.
I did some secretarial work for Dinah Shore when she was in Washington to sing for President Eisenhower. Very sweet lady, there with her huge handsome husband George Montgomery and daughter Missy.
My favorite of all was Milburn Stone, "Doc" in Gunsmoke. Charming, gentlemanly, affable, willing to sit and tell you stories forever. I met him through my friend Suzanne Brent, George's daughter, who invited him and his wife Jane to all her parties. He was a sheer delight. I loved teasing him about his early days in pictures when he had one line or two, and was doing his best to break into the business. He had been a midshipman at the Naval Academy and had quit to join a traveling theater company. He used to say if he'd stayed in the Navy he might have made something of himself ...
Doc had had a near-death experience while he was being operated on, and they lost him for a little while. He told of being in a place where there were people wearing white and playing music, in a huge amphitheater. He loved it so much he wanted to go back, but it wasn't his time yet. He told that story to everyone he ever met.
He'd made 150 movies before Gunsmoke came along and made him a big star. He was a featured player for most of his career up to that time. He did tell me he'd been the star in a couple of movies made at Monogram, which was a "poverty row" studio ... and added, "I don't know how much of a star you could be at Monogram ..." He had a very self-deprecating style, but when he told you one about where he had become indignant about something, he'd get right into indignant mode. Funny, wonderful man. I thought he was a really great actor, myself.
His best friends in the business were Charlton Heston and Boris Karloff, along with George Brent. He had dozens of friends outside the business, of course. Ken Curtis, who played Festus, was very close to him. They used to do an act at county fairs when they were on hiatus from Gunsmoke.
I met others, but I can list them another time.
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I'd have to put James Dean on the top of my list. He just struck me as a whiny kid.
Farley Granger, Spencer Tracy (I never saw the appeal between him or Kate Hepburn), Orson Welles, John Wayne, and Johnny Weissmuller.
Okay with the others, but you've got to take Orson off that list, if only for Jane Eyre.
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Gary Cooper - Maybe its just me but, like in Love in the Afternoon he's this travelling playboy. I don't see all those women or Audrey's character fawning over this guy. Looks to me he just stands there cluelessly. I don't get the appeal but, then I am not a woman.
In that picture, he was an old man playing middle-aged. A terrible casting mistake opposite Audrey. He was well past it at that point. However, if you'd seen him in Along Came Jones, you'd have seen the best kisser in all movies. He was incredible with Loretta Young.
The only other kisser as good, IMO, was Joel McCrea in The More The Merrier, with Jean Arthur.
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My best revenge is that the moment I forged it alone, my career took off. I have a much more secure, happy life now and he's still stuck in his angry existence.
Good for you, TikiSoo. It's best to go it alone when you have a boss instead of a husband.
I hadn't heard about Ann Margaret. Did she have a bad experience with her husband?
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> Just out of curiosity, I've sent an e-mal to Lawrence J. Quirk, who is a film historian and author of several books about the movies and people therein ... if anyone would know about Dall and Walker, he would. I'll let you know what comes up, if I get an answer.
Yes, please, let us know what you find out.
I got a reply to my e-mail, not from Larry Quirk but from his caregiver, who is also his co-author and business partner. They wrote several books together. He explains that Larry is currently (but temporarily) in a nursing home for physical therapy, and goes on to say:
"I am seeing him on Monday and will print out your email for him to read. He is 89 and while he will probably remember the actors you mention he might not remember personal details at this point, but I'll ask him anyway -- you never know.
"You are right that there oesn't seem to be any reference to a marriage between those two anywhere, but you've probably seen the photo showing the two of them attending a gathering in honor of Ida Lupino -- they appear to be on a date, at the very least, so there could have been a quickie marriage at some point. Anyway, I'll see if Larry remembers anything."{font:arial}{font}
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Well a bit of tie-ins here. Artie Shaw married Lana Turner, and later Ava Gardner, who was married to Mickey Rooney. I'm sure if thefull picture of Hollywood' musical beds was knwn, **** would bogle the mind.
I agree. Artie didn't stay married long to Ava; he was doing his usual domination act and she wouldn't sit still for it.
I read Evelyn Keyes' book about their marriage and I'm surprised she didn't murder him in cold blood. I would have. The topper for me was that when he was "educating" her in how to please him (the rationale was that if he was happy in all things, then she would be happy), he told her she had to arrange the cigarettes in the box so that the correct end was facing him when he opened the lid.
No jury in the world would have convicted her if she'd done him in.
Edited by: Dothery on Dec 9, 2012 12:58 AM
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Nothing current about this one, but I was reminded of it in a picture caption on Silver Screen Oasis of Robert Cummings. I loved this picture. I found a tape of it and I run it from time to time, just to watch Agnes Moorhead in what I always thought was her greatest performance. I loved the plot, I loved the mystery, I loved the romance of it. And Venice!
A wonderful movie. Susan Hayward was great, Cummings was terrific as the young writer.
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Artie was Lana's first husband. She was his third wife. The marriage lasted four months.
Then came Stephen Crane, who neglected to tell her he was still legally married, and whom she divorced quickly, but remarried when she found she was pregnant and he'd gotten his final decree, and then divorced again after their daughter Cheryl was born.
Then came Bob Topping, and after him Lex Barker, who Cheryl said raped her for years, and whom Lana threw out and divorced when she found out about it. Cheryl told her grandmother, who told Lana, and Lex was history twenty minutes later.
Then came Fred May and Robert Eaton, businessmen who didn't last long.
Then she married a would-be showman hypnotist, Ronald Dante, who embezzled from her and tried to get another hypnotist with a show in San Diego murdered so he'd be tops in the field. He was her last husband. He took off with $50,000 of her money and continued his nefarious lifestyle. At the time she said, "I'm so G-D gullible." I had to agree with her.
After all the husbands came Johnny Stompanato, who was a gangster friend of Mickey Cohen and a bully, and who threatened to carve her up because she wouldn't give him the recognition he wanted in Hollywood as boyfriend of a big star. He wanted to go to the Oscars with her and she said no. Cheryl came in the bedroom with a kitchen knife and stabbed him to death when she heard the threats, according to most reports, including Cheryl's memoir.
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What a wonderful picture of Claude Rains. He looks so interested and amused. I loved his book, and was not surprised he was such a babe magnet. He magnetized ME, all right.
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Yes, please, let us know what you find out.
I will. The reason I thought of him was a family connection, of sorts. I met him when I was just a little girl, maybe six years old, at a family picnic, back in the 30's. My mother worked for Billy Connery, a congressman, who was Larry's uncle. Some years ago I came across a web site for Larry but it wasn't one you could reach him through. I did talk to his business partner via e-mail and he mentioned that Larry was still alive, and living in New York. He's written a dozen books about Hollywood and one of his web sites is full of pictures of him with Cary Grant, Jayne Mansfield, all sorts of stars through the years. Larry had another uncle who was editor of Photoplay Magazine, and Larry came out to L.A. to work for him after having been a reporter in Boston for some years. He stayed in Hollywood for decades. writing for Photoplay and eventually becoming an executive at the magazine.
Classic Character Actors
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In THE COURT JESTER:
The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true. Even I can say it!
One of my favorites. I have it on tape, it's so old. I particularly like to run it for the fencing scenes with Basil Rathbone and Danny Kaye. I read in Rathbone's autobiography that he thought Danny Kaye was the smartest man he ever knew. He said the saber was a very difficult weapon to learn to use, and he'd spent years working with it. Danny had to learn it for the movie and in two weeks he was as good as Rathbone, at least for the scenes they had together.
I also love the scene where Glynis Johns is explaining her family plague to the king to get him to leave her alone. She was a marvelous actress.