mm123
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I have seen The Killing maybe 5 times. Every time I see it, I notice the suitcase opens up before it hits the ground. I imagine they didn't want to do it over but the suitcase has to Break open. Not just Be open. Who would transport an open suitcase? & they put it on top in such a way that it was rocking back & forth. Baggage guys are not fools. They don't get paid to drop suitcases on the runway. They will pack the cart a certain way to Avoid breaking a bag. Thats the only thing that bugs me.
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I'm new to the board & was just joking. Now I realize I had no right to say what I did & words hurt. I know that. & just want to officially apologize in front of everybody. I'm sorry. You are entitled to your POV even if I don't agree with it. (some boards you can joke around )
I actually like Jerry Goldsmith & just saw him last saturday night on METV: Thriller - episode called "The Cheaters" from a Robert Bloch story. I also saw Bernard Herrmann right after that on Twilight Zone - episode in which a girl is told she's hopelessly ugly & it turns out she's beautiful. the doctors & nurses are ugly. Trus story. From Charles Beaumont.
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Record sales were out the door on Herrmann in the late 70's. In the 80's there were alot of bogus Herrmann records. He is the Charlie Chaplin of Film Music. Quit the Motion Picture Academy. Had his name removed from Magnificent Ambersons due to its being destroyed & replaced by other people not part of the creative process. Other music was used. Alot of movies he did later on where his music is the only worthwhile thing about the movie. Like Endless Night & Twisted Nerve.
What they need to do is Rerecord the Torn Curtain score & create a Herrmann version. It'd be an improvement over the official one.
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TCM showed a bogus version of Foolish Wives. It looked really bad. The movie was restored by Arthur Lennig & Blackhawk Films had it. The TCM version looked like a dupe of a Blackhawk 16mm. Image put out a nice 143 min. version. TCM ran it at 118 min. TCM had ample opportunity to show the movie in its best light & chose the low road (again?).
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You can have your opinion. Just that mine is better. Smarter.
I just noticed some stuff on you tube.
citizen kane
taxi driver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-i9xowkJBc
vertigo
psycho
I don't think taxi is bogus. The others might be.
Jerry goldsmith is non descript. a tv person who got movie jobs. nothing special about him. a boring hack. no art. just hum drum tv music. didnt sell any records I would buy.
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Not to put anybody down & I'm not here to argue. All I wanted to do was talk about the record HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL. I did that. I put up the link. That is it.
Check out the prices on his lps http://www.gemm.com/search.pl?Go.y=12&media_format=18&Go.x=3&wild=bernardherrmann&field=ARTISTORTITLE&list_begin_prev=1&list_end_prev=25&low_limit_prev=25&low_limit=5&list_howmany_str=NEXT500&page_on=2
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TCM showed a bogus version of KAMARADSCHAFT. I have a tape of the movie from another source. The TCM version was appalling. Not only was the print very poor but scenes not in the movie were added.
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I am not going to argue about something that is obvious. What movie did Aaron Copland make the music for? Probably there is alot I can learn.
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I just watched an early episode of Gunsmoke & sure enough, Herrmann's music was on there. At the end it said Music By Bernard Herrmann. I think on the HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL record, the Western Suite is Gunsmoke but they were not allowed to mention the show. After that episode, the next one had a very lighthearted music. No composer credit.
Other movie composers made good music, there is no denying that. But none of them made as many good ones or had as much an impact as Herrmann. After Herrmann at no. 1 there is a long drop until no. 2.
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I have seen at least one. The Killer Is Loose. The credits on TCM are not the ones on the film. On the film there is a man & as the music moves he begins to move & gets bigger and bigger until you can see a gigantic man. On TCM the bogus credit have the same music & info but no man. It looks like cactus on the left side & the words on the right. It is a completely bogus credit! TCM needs to remove this movie from its lineup until a legit version is put forth. that ain't a request. its a demand.
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Herrmann has sold more records than those people combined. He had a very unique style, very downbeat & way out. He touched a core in listeners. Swept them up. & the lucky part was that he arrived at the moment his talents were needed most. Hollywood was breaking out of the 30's conformity into a more expressive period. After he died there was such a demand for his music, that there was a ton of bogus Herrmann records out there & bootlegs of records made from the sound strip on the films. I have a few bogus ones & a few bootlegs. He made very few records himself.
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I think Hitchcock felt threatened because Herrmann was very serious about his craft. On my record HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL it says "Composed & Orchestrated by" so he dd not actually record the record. It was made in 1984. What they did was listen to the tapes CBS had & get the sheet music & rerecord what he did for CBS in Stereo.
Why I went looking for records that day. I have an acetate - its a floppy 7" disc for SWING ERA a record set made by Capitol Records for Time-Life. They rerecorded the swing band songs in stereo using the records & sheet music as a guide. I was only able to find one Swing Era record. But they had a ton of records 3 for a dollar so I went back 3 times & looked thru the entire store.
I also got a Bonnie & Clyde Soundtrack & a very unusual record: George Raft doing his part of "They Drive By Night" & they enclose a script in which you are supposed to read out loud. But it was just the record. No script. You can tell a 50's record because its made out of heavy plastic.
I also found a Sinatra 12" 78rpm single with "Stormy Weather" on one side & "Ol Man River" on the other.
Back to Have Gun Will Travel... Album produced for Cerberus Records by Richard Jones
1. Have Gun Will Travel (main title)
2. The Street - The Card
3. The Fight
4. Travel
5. The Rocks
6. The Return
7. Captured - Reunited
8. End Title
They used the end title for season 1. After which they created a theme song by Johnny Western
ETHAN ALLEN
1. Main Title - The Arrest
2. The Meeting
3. Call To Duty - The Fight
4. The Tories
5. Albany
6. Rural Grotesque
7. The Jail
8. The Escape
9. End Title
WESTERN SUITE
1. Prelude
2. The Ambush
3. Tranquil Landscape
4. Dark Valley
5. The Meadows
6. Bad Man
7. Gunfight
8. Rain Clouds
9. Sun Clouds
I have listened to it once already. Every time I make coffee or food I put it on while stuff is happening. Thats how I do it.
Have Gun Will Travel "The classic CBS TV western series made a striking impact when it premiered in 1957. The dark tales of the dressed in black, Shakespeare quoting, gun for hire named Paladin were a strong contrast to the "Good Guys" and "Singing Cowboys" that Hollywood had overpopulated the airwaves.
The Producers wanting to further avoid western cliches, hired Bernard Herrmann to write the main title & score for the pilot, & typically Herrmann delivered the unexpected. Suddenly gone were the twangy guitars and reassuring ballads of the other television cowboys, and Paladin appeared in violent four note bursts of brass & percussion."
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I have a rare movie with Jeffrey Lynn called "Doorway To Suspicion" about a band leader who gets mixed up with a dame so she can get out of East Germany. Not exactly sure because the story is told sort of under the table. Check it out if you get the chance.
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For those of you who may be considering buying cds of Hermann scores, a big problem arose when there was a buck to be made. After he died in 1975 there was a ton of new issues of Herrmann scores that were made by other people. I got one dirt cheap on cassette for North By Northwest & it is just off.
I usually don't pay much for this anyway but my take on this whole Film music thing is if the music is removed from the film it loses its meaning/ reason for being. Maybe I'm wrong. I hear & its just a rumor that Herrmann made a score for Torn Curtain & Hitchcock turned it down & hired somebody else. The movie might have been ok with Herrmann's score on it. But the way it is now it is just a dead movie. DOA.
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He's generally regarded as the greatest composer of movie music. In a class by himself. I collect records by Herrmann if I can get them cheaply & easily. People think music has to sound like the genre it is used. Not true. Herrmann made music for every type of movie & it all sounds the same. You could use it on any other movie & it works perfectly. I found a record of Herrmann doing HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL 10 min.& other Western theme tv shows. The other shows are ETHAN ALLEN 10 min.which was only a pilot & was never made into a tv show. & a Western Suite 20 min.of other bits of music he made for CBS-TV 1957-63
It cost me $.30 to buy this record & It has not yet been issued on cd. None of the music sounds western. It is all the same as Sinbad, Jason, etc. fantastic sounds with harps, loud thundering drums - brass etc.
It seems this is a rare record. I guess I got lucky.
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Comcast did several things since they bought Universal/NBC. They used their computers to analyse my acct. What I watch & when, my financial status, disability, everything about me. When I went to pay my bill it was $10 less! In addition, Comcast chose in my interest without my initiative to reprogram my acct. So that Fox Movie Channel & other channels were added. But now I know they know everything about me and are keeping files on my viewing habits, food, amazon purchases etc. Everything there is to know they know. What prescriptions I get from a doctor, what drug store I use, etc. Everything. Israel owns Comcast.
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Thanks for turning us on.
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TCM should show ROADHOUSE & UNDER MY SKIN as films of more interest. When it comes down to it.
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I propose Ben receive 20 lashes. Drew Barrymore can do the whipping.
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I own bad quality bootlegs of THE GUILTY, FALL GUY & 16 FATHOMS DEEP on vhs most likely from 16mm.
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somebody break down and buy the dvd and make copies for the rest of us...
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