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In certain ways I believe that Cloris Leachman's Nurse Diesel (HIGH ANXIETY) was inspired by Mrs Danvers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsCmjUsnak
"Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup."
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I was really, really disappointed in PENTHOUSE.
Did Mae Clarke have a large role in the movie?
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Unfortunately, however, if one really listens closely to Natalie Wood's singing voice in the clipped video of her singing the songs that Maria sings in the film West Side Story, it's apparent that her voice is quite shaky and wobbly in some places, and she doesn't always stay on pitch, which I think was also a big part of the problem.
And, again, a singing coach could have worked with her on those problems but the coach did nothing but praise Natalie Wood's singing.
Natalie was lied to about her about her own singing voice being used in the movie. According to Marni Nixon, they always intended to dub her. Marni Nixon says she was present for Natalie's "lessons" ---- which consisted of nothing but telling Natalie how wonderful she was. They explained Marni's presence by saying that Marni's voice would be blended with Natalie's for the higher notes. Marni has said that she (Marni) knew that was not possible.
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Saul Chaplin who was in charge of all the musical aspects of the film, was very definite about how he wanted something to sound. That is the reason for so much dubbing going on in the film. In the "Quintet", for example, Marni Nixon is providing the vocal for both Maria and Anita during one part of it.
Yes, and it's very jarring to have Rita Moreno's real voice singing in "America" and then hearing the dubbed voice in "A Boy Like That" and in the "Tonight" Quintet.
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I wonder where Douglas was that he didnt appear???
When Brandon deWilde accepted the Oscar, he said that Melvyn Douglas was in Spain.
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..which will be introduced on TCM by Eddie Mueller.
Of course.
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Right, Mae Clarke day. Tomorrow night at 8.
Hey, is anyone else having this problem? After Holden's "heads up" about the James Whale version of this story, I went to the TCM schedule to look up exactly what time it was playing tomorrow. And I couldn't get the page to switch to tomorrow's schedule. Usually I click the drop-down box and I can look up any upcoming day in the month. But today that function didn't work..
Anyone else experienced this?
(I found out the broadcast time by going to the "Summer Under the Stars " page and clicking on "films" when I got to Mae Clarke day.)
I'm having the same issues with the drop-down box that displays the different days in the month.
I was only able to get to the August 20 schedule by clicking on the "NEXT DAY" box at the bottom of the current day's (August 19) schedule.
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Again, however, while Natalie Wood didn't have a bad voice, she simply seemed to not know how to project her voice, and being able to project one's voice is also of utmost importance.
Again, if the studio singing coaches had genuinely worked with Natalie Wood on projecting her voice rather than just praising her singing to placate her so the studio could use her box office appeal to sell their movie she could have sung the score herself without dubbing.
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Full disclosure: I've not seen the James Whale version, although now I wish I had. Maybe next time.
Tomorrow is your chance, misswonderly3.
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I've never had any problem making out the words he speaks - in any movie.
I think it was just so unusual that he was natural rather than stagey in his enunciating that people weren't used to it and, not liking it when the unexpected happens, called it "mumbling" to voice their qualms about something new in film-acting.
It's interesting that it was American stage actors and directors trained in Stanislavski's techniques who were responsible for making movie-acting less "stagey" (using that word in the sense of "artificial").
Actors like Marlon Brando, Geraldine Page, Karl Malden, Eli Wallach, Anne Bancroft, Patricia Neal, Montgomery Clift and James Dean were able to create and sustain authentic and unpredictable human behavior rather than relying on the patterned deliveries and reactions used by "movie stars" for a film "take."
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I can see where you'r coming from with this, I think part of the fault lies in the fact that Newman is required to start 'speechifyin'" every so often by the script, giving a lot of thematically heavy soliloquoys- some of which are heavy handed. Personally, I felt like he did a good job in a demanding role.
Personally, I have found myself wondering- after watching HUD on this most recent outing- whether or not it was ultimately bad for the career of Brandon de Wilde- because he's basically in the same role that he played a year before in ALL FALL DOWN and more or less, ten years before that in SHANE, it's like how many "misguided Hero worship makes boy-become-man" parts can you do?
And he's good- don't get me wrong. He gets the part down, it's just bad luck for him that he is in an ensemble quartet with three hardcore pros who are latching in to their parts like a terrier on a tube sock, and those parts are more dynamic and showy than his....it's like he's in a thankless position, if he plays the part right, he looks like a weak link.
.....and i've heard he was very hurt by being the only member of the cast not nominated for an Oscar...and it's worth noting he didn't do a follow-up to HUD until 1965, in which he reteamed with Patricia Neal in In Harm's Way.
Yes, it did hurt Brandon deWilde that he was the only major cast member of HUD to not be recognized with an Oscar nomination.
But deWilde did accept the Oscar that was awarded to Melvyn Douglas, who was unable to attend the ceremony.
Those glasses that Brandon deWilde is wearing are "in style" today.
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She's almost as gorgeous as Michelle PFeiffer.
Maybe Michelle Pheiffer will make a movie with Sally Fields.
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Thursday, Aug. 20th--Mae Clarke day--all times E.S.T.
8:00 p.m.--"Waterloo Bridge"--(1931)--Arguably Clarke's best performance.
9:30 p.m.--"Frankenstein"--(1931).
WATERLOO BRIDGE and FRANKENSTEIN: Two great collaborations bewtween Mae Clarke and director James Whale.
What wonderful performances Whale drew from Mae Clarke and Kent Douglass in WATERLOO BRIDGE.
The scene where Clarke brings Douglass to her apartment for the first time is so alive and seems to be happening "for real."
TCM is also airing the obligatory PUBLIC ENEMY, where James Cagney famously squashes a grapefruit in Mae Clarke's face.
It's okay because PUBLIC ENEMY is a great movie directed by the great William Wellman and with a great performance by Cagney.
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I watched HUD for the first time in a long time on Pat Neal's night.
Her work in that film is one of those very rare supporting performances that deservedly won a leading Oscar because it is so strong it dominates the movie (see also: Anthony Hopkins in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.) I wish she had more scenes, because her Alma (which is most appropriately the Spanish word for "soul") is the heart and soul of HUD.
It is a shame though that she maybe appeared in less than five features after winning, although she did get a second nomination (for THE SUBJECT WAS ROSES) and did plenty of stage and television.
I like the movie HUD a lot but for me the weakest link (and I know many will disagree with me) is Paul Newman.
To me, he comes across as "trying not to act" which reads as "acting" to me.
I don't think his accent sounds very authentic either.
Patricia Neal, Brandon deWilde and Melvyn Douglas are all so vibrantly alive in the movie.
I'm always amazed that a New York guy like Brandon deWilde can speak with such a natural-sounding Southern accent.
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The dead horse being beaten in GREASE II was the concept. The gender reversal made absolutely no sense, The songs, and really, the entire movie was forgettable. That Michelle Pheiffer looked gorgeous didn't even help. She ALWAYS looks gorgeous!
In fact, YOU'RE the only person I've ever communicated with who thinks the movie is WORTH two dead flies.
You may need to broaden your circle.
GREASE 2 (not II) has a quite a strong fan base that continues to grow.
I saw a high school revue recently that incorporated songs from the movie.
How can anyone not like "Cool Rider"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loXeGuTRCHE
Here are a few comments from YouTube:
"first sequel ever to be just as great as the first one."
"yes its better"
"Am I the only one that absolutely LOVES the second one..?"
"i loVE THIS SO DAMN MUCH"
"I actually really like this Movie more than Grease 1! I think Michelle Pfeiffer has a really cool role in here and I love to see that movie everytime it´s coming up on TV! :)"
"Some people are just idiots. The movie was not meant to be serious or dramatic. Same as the first Grease it was satire and a lighthearted spoof. The music is actually very good but people act like the movie is horrible and it is not. It is really very good."
"Good movie. Highly underrated. Good soundtrack too."
"This is loads better than Grease 1 yet its almost impossible to get this on DVD anywhere!! Does anyone have any ideas where I can get this as an individual movie, not a twin pack with Grease 1 in it too."
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I've never had any problem making out the words he speaks - in any movie.
I think it was just so unusual that he was natural rather than stagey in his enunciating that people weren't used to it and, not liking it when the unexpected happens, called it "mumbling" to voice their qualms about something new in film-acting.
It's interesting that quite a few actors who emulate Marlon Brando do mumble (I suspect intentionally), but Brando never mumbled.
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Yep, I too think Swithin's point about Darvi's accent is a very valid one, as its exotic sound(especially to an American's ear) does indeed make her seem more believable in the role.
And thus one of prime reasons I mentioned earlier that the thought of Marilyn Monroe in the part and playing it with her distinctive voice based on the standard American accent just wouldn't seem to fit as well.
Speaking of "exotic" accents is that American Kathleen Turner saying "You've found TCM" on that spot running on the channel?
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Yes!

Audrey Hepburn is so cute in this outfit and with this hairstyle in ROMAN HOLIDAY:

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This is great, everyone has beaten me to mentioning my favorites. Another one I like is Easy Living, with Victor Mature:

Is Victor Mature a football player in that movie?
If so, I saw part of it on TCM very recently.
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"She went to sh*t and the hogs ate her!"
Diane Ladd as Flo in ALICE DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE, finally losing it when the owner of the cafe repeatedly asks for the whereabouts of one of the other waitresses
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From a buddy in Roma Mata Hari (1931) Scene where Garbo makes Novarro "lose his religion". A pity though that the currently available dvd version is not the pre-code one a later cut one. Garbo is unfortunately overdressed.
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Does TCM air the pre-code version of MATA HARI or the later cut version that was released after the code was in effect?
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The movie (GONE WITH THE WIND) is airing on TCM now, but Melanie is just having her baby.
I don't think I can stay with it to hear the son's voice in the crying scene (when Melanie's dying) to see if I still think his voice is dubbed.
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Has anyone seen The Patricia Neal Story (1981) directed by Anthony Harvey? Glenda Jackson and Dirk Bogarde were both nominated for Golden Globes and Mildred Dunnock plays herself!
The film deals with Patricia Neal's recovery from a stroke with the aid of her husband, Roald Dahl.
Here's a clip I found:
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Alan Arkin honored on August 21 during Summer Under The Stars
in General Discussions
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I am very, very, very looking forward to LITTLE MURDERS.