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    Many of Hemingway's novels have been made into films.  Any of the films live up to the novel? Any films better than the source material?

     

     

     

    THE BREAKING POINT with John Garfield and Patricia Neal is based on the same Hemingway novel (novella?) as TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall.

    THE BREAKING POINT is supposedly a more a faithful adapatation of Hemingway's work.

    I've never read the book, but I am looking forward to finally seeing the movie this month during Patricia Neal's Summer Under The Stars tribute. 

    I always enjoy seeing the clip (Word of Mouth maybe?) that TCM aired with Patricia Neal talking about how John Garfield described her character to  her by saying "You're a wh*re, you know what I mean.  You're a wh*re."

     

    I think some consider TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT to be better than the source material.

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    I never knew the Wicked Witch of the West was saying "Look out" until relatively recently.

    I think maybe it was you, LHF, who cleared that up for me.

  3. Thanks -- I hadn't heard that before. When I saw that production at the Donmar in London, the role was played by Sara Kestelman.  Mary Louise Wilson is one of our enduing stage actresses, most recently on Broadway in the revival of On the Twentieth Century, playing the role originated in the musical by Imogene Coca. The character (the religious fanatic "Repent" character) is based on Etienne Girardot's role in the 1934 film Twentieth Century (which he also played in the original Broadway play).

     

    Yes, Mary Louise Wilson was also good as Big Edie in the second act of GREY GARDENS THE MUSICAL.

  4. Thanks for recommending this movie.

    I had never heard of it and the Maltin review was quiite dismissive.

    I watched the first half hour or so and was captivated but had to leave to take care of some business so I was recording it as well to watch later.

     

    I did get back to see the ending.

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    How did Victor Mature (as the son of the cheese maker) wind up as pharoah at the end???

    I'll have to watch to find out. . . .

  5. Nice!  Actually, Lenya had several songs in the show -- four, plus a reprise of "Married" and as part of the cast in "Tomorrow Belongs to Me." So it was a pretty big role in the original. The character had more songs than Sally Bowles, though of course we remember the title song best.

     

     

     

    Yes, I love Fraulein Schneider's songs in the stage musical CABARET (none were sung by the the character in the movie).

     

    Here's one of my favorites "It Couldn't Please Me More" as sung by Mary Louise Wilson and Ron Rifkin in the Sam Mendes revival on Broadway.

     

     

    An instumental version of "It Couldn't Please Me More" is heard playing on Sally Bowles's victrola in the movie CABARET.

  6. Hey, it's starting!  I know, I hear a collective yawn.  But surely, there's got to be something worth looking forward to each day.  Saturday, August 1, I've read people excited by The Egyptian.  I watched some of it, but. . . .

     

    I'm going to focus on what I'm looking forward to, not be negative about what I don't care for (there's plenty of opportunity for that elsewhere)

     

    . . . . Along with Miss Tierney's usuals, we have Whirlpool, which interests me due to what I've read by others.

     

    And there's always The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

     

    I caught part of WHIRLPOOL, but now wish I had recorded it. 

    I did record THE EGYPTIAN based on recommendations on this board.

    I'm thankful I read those recommendations rather than relying on the dismissive Maltin review.

    I also recorded PLYMOUTH ADVENTURE.

    I'd never heard of this movie but it intrigued me.

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  7. Btw, I want to add something that I'm not sure I mentioned on the Board before. I worked with Joe Masteroff, who wrote the book (libretto) for Cabaret. He said that Boris Aronson's wonderful set was quite complex and that it took time for each set piece to move into place. They realized that they needed to do something for the audience during those times. The answer was "Let Joel do something." And so a part that was originally much more of a supporting role grew into a more major one, as extra bits and pieces were added for that character. But Joel had already been billed as supporting, and that's how he won the Featured Actor Tony Award that year. In revivals, based on how the role grew because of the scenery in the original production, the emcee was elevated to billing which befitted the expanded role.

     

    [btw, Jack Gilford (Herr Schultz) and Lotte Lenya (Fraulein Schneider) were nominated in the Best Actor and Actress category for the Tony Award that year, probably due to their stature in the business rather than the size of their roles. Peg Murray (Fraulein Kost) was nominated for Featured Actress]. 

     

    Here's a clip of Liza Minnelli singing "So What," which was sung Lotte Lenya as Fraulein Schneider in the original stage production of CABARET. 

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZc2fUqmaXE

  8. It's actually GAY LAW you know,

     

    Article III, Paragraph IV:

    Should CONTRACTEE encounter, at any time, one LIZA MINELLI, who in turn, requests sexual services from CONTRACTEE, CONTRACTEE is legally bound to provide sexual services for the duration of time requested by Miss Minelli, not exceeding a period of eighteen (18) months.

     

    (They can kick you out if you don't comply.)

     

    I never knew it was an actual law.

    I've been schooled.

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  9. I saw it when it was in theaters, but not since.  The thing about Joan Crawford is, she always gives it everything she's got.  No matter what the movie.

     

    Yes, she always commits herself and never mocks the material as some actors would have dione.

  10. I haven't seen the film in ages, but I do recall that it was pretty clear in the film that he was gay -- even if it was unspoken. 

     

    I've only seen the movie I AM A CAMERA once (were  you referring to I AM A CAMERA or CABARET?), but I don't think Isherwood was explicitly gay in it although perhaps it could be implied.

     

    In the movie CABARET Brian Roberts (the Isherwood character) was gay (athough some will say he's bisexual because of his experience with Sally I say that his "fling" with Sally was a fluke).

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  11. By the way, has anyone mentioned the UTTERLY STUNNING** news that Joel Grey dropped on the world a few months back by coming out of the closet???

     

     

     

     

     

    ** and "UTTERLY STUNNING" I mean "UTTERLY STUNNING to anyone who hasn't seen him for about a minute in CABARET."

     

    I was surprised to hear that he was straight, but I guess it turns out he wasn't after all. 

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  12. I wonder if waspish Isherwood made a similar comment when (if) he saw the musical on Broadway, as the same sceanario occurs there. So therefore he shouldn't have been remotely surprised by the film version and I'm sure he was not. In fact, "his" character's "bisexuality" raised eyebrows at the time.i

     

    Isherwood's out loud remark at the screening of CABARET was surely not an expression of surprise that the scene was in the film, just a comment that he wanted to make sure was heard.

     

    I don't know if Isherwood ever attended a stage production. On stage the Isherwood-based chartacter was American Cliff Bradshaw. In the movie he was English Brian Roberts.

    In the original stage production (I may be wrong about this)  I don't think Cliff was gay or bisexual (at least not explicitly) just as the Isherwood character was not explicitly gay in I AM A CAMERA.

    Brian Roberts in the movie was gay (or perhaps bisexual --- although I think his experience with Sally was more of a fluke than anything), and in Sam Mendes's stage revival of CABARET Cliff Bradshaw was explicitly gay (or bisexual). Mendes's revival also added Kit Kat Boys. In one scene Cliff Bradhaw kisses one of them.

  13. As you may know, British actress Kate Beckinsale played Ava in Scorsese's THE AVIATOR (2004), and while she also possesses those dark smoldering and seductive looks of Gardner, I thought she was only passable in the role.

     

    Now, I'll tell you who since she first came onto the scene a decade or so ago I thought looks a lot like Ava, and while you might laugh at this, and I don't know if she can act at all, but pop singer Fergie's looks reminds me a a lot of Ava's...

     

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    I see the similarity as well.

     

    Are Fergie and Josh Duhamel still together?

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    (ROFL -- Alan C u m m i n g's surname is censored!)

     

     

    Yes I mentioned  Alan C-u-m-m-m-i-n-g earlier in this thread and I noticed that the surname was bleeped.   

  15. Isn't Atticus Finch the later incarnation of Josef Mengele, who did evil experiments on twins for the National Socialist party in Germany?

     

    I heard he hid in South America for awhile, but then came south to America and hired Scout and Jim to play his children, after Scout flubbed her voice inflection test for that Twilight Zone episode and had to be dubbed by the girl who also did Rocket J. Squirrel's quips, June Foray.

     

    Mary Badham's voice was indeed dubbed in that TWILIGHT ZONE episode, likely because of her Southern accent.

    Was she really dubbed by Rocky the Squirrel?

  16. Sally Bowles is British (specifically English) in Isherwood's story and in I Am A Camera.

    One of the reasons Liza Minnelli was supposedly rejected for the role of Sally in the stage musical Cabaret was she was too American. Of course, in the movie Sally IS American.

     

    Ishwerwood's Sally and the Sally of the original stage production of Cabaret is a not-so-good singer with delusions about her talent.

    This of course is not the case with Sally as played by Liza Minnelli and would not have been the case had Julie Andrews played the role.

     

     

    Sam Mendes's wonderful revival of CABARET again presented Sally Bowles as a mediocre English singer, played in London by Jane Horrocks and on Broadway by Natasha Richardson. 

     

     

     

    Jane Horrocks is brilliant in the role and is in fact a good singer as evidenced by her work in LITTLE VOICE. 

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  17. I've just learned that Mickey Kuhn also played Ashley and Melanie's son in GONE WITH THE WIND.

    In the photo below he's held by Leslie Howard.

     

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    Mickey Kuhn at age 18 was reunited with Vivien Leigh in A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE.

    He actually has the first line in the movie.

     

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  18. Would have never noticed. How'd you know that?

     

    I remembered Mickey Kuhn's name from the credits of A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE because I know someone with that surname.

    I made the connection when I saw him credited in THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS and I confirmed that it was the same person on the internet.

     

    Mickey Kuhn also played the young Matt Garth in RED RIVER.

    The adult Matt was played by Montgomery Clift.

     

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