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Here's a clip of Hayley Mills as the mystery challenger on WHAT'S MY LINE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htdk3UpFiDc
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3:15 am ET TCM Imports......B/W
90 min
TV-PG
dramaYoung Torless (1966)When a classmate steals from them, two students inflict ever more intense tortures on him.
Dir: Volker Schlöndorff Cast: Mathieu Carrière , Marian Seidowsky , Bernd Tischer .
Article: http://www.tcm.com/t...s/articles.html
"A key title in the inauguration of the New German Cinema wave, Young Torless (1966) marked the feature directorial debut of Volker Schlndorff, who had cut his teeth in the European film industry as assistant under Louis Malle and Alain Resnais. His education served him well for an intense character study set in an Austro-Hungarian boys' school in pre-World War I where a student's petty theft instigates an escalating string of punishments by his peers with the title character casually standing by and offering his observations."

What an intriguing movie this was.
There was no commentary by Ben Mankiewicz.
I wonder if that means he hasn't seen it.
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There's got to be a full minute of Rhonda Fleming in bed basically flashing her breasts under a flimsy nightgown in Slightly Scarlet (1956)

How did Breen miss that?!
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Pauly Shore.
TCM really should air ENCINO MAN.

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Yes -- but not so much a pact. She seems to have accepted it at that moment. Her last line is "You believe me, don't you?" When he takes the gun out, it means he doesn't believe her, so that's her motivation to help pull the trigger.
****SPOILER ALERT****
Watching this scene again, I don't think that Walter's taking out the gun means that he doesn't believe Martha's declaration of love, but just the opposite.
I can totally see validity to Muller's remark about their deaths being a suicide pact, with the intention of being together forever after death.
The sensual look on Stanwyck's face (as Hibi mentioned) and the fact that she is the one that moves the gun against her and that she and Walter pull the trigger together (this is explicitly shown onscreen) make a strong case for Muller's interpretation.
And, most telling, she identifies herself as Martha Smith (not Ivers) after she's been shot.
I think the strange love of Martha Ivers is her love for Walter.
She was shattered when Walter didn't support her when she planned to kill Sam. We see in that moment Walter's power in the relationship, despite his appearance of weakness.
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Watching the 3 part mini series "Tut" (2015)., quite good.

It stars Ben Kingsley as Ay, the Grand Vizier to King Tutankhamun.

This sounds very interesting.
On what channel is it airing?
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Neither character was in it............
What about Dolly Madison?
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according to the always infallible Wikipedia, it cost six million dollars and made 2 million dollars. Dat is a DUD. it was also produced by Jack Warner.
Warner should have cast Audrey Hepburn as Martha Washington and/or Betsy Ross.
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I recommend "Penelope." It is showing tomorrow as part of the Natalie Wood birthday tribute. It is a lesser known Wood film. I saw it last year and really enjoyed it. Wood is charming and the film features great 1960s fashions. It is a shame that this film is not available on DVD.
I second speedracer's recommendation of PENELOPE.
Here's a clip of Natalie Wood wearing (and Edith Head discussing) the costumes in PENELOPE:
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since the conversation has evolved into one about failed movie musicals, & I keep seeing the bluray DVD release of "1776" promoted during the commercials on TCM, I was wondering if anyone here has seen it or has any opinions on it. Just from the brief clips they show and from the reviews I've read, it looks like a real dog to me, and the "digitally restored" cinematography looks really washed out (although that was the one thing for which it actually did get an Oscar nomination.)
I was really surprised that 1776 was deemed worthy of digital restoration but I guess the movie must have its fans.
It seems like a dud to me.
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Like prohibition, just because something is made illegal doesn't mean it will be enforced to the hilt every single time. Hundreds of movies were made each year. Not to mention news reels, serials, cartoons etc... Things will slip by at times.
When has any gov't program worked efficiently and seamlessly ?
Absolutely things were "slipped" into movies during the time of the Code unrecognized by the "monitors," but I'm referring to something being shown that was expressly forbidden.
Others have also noted that there were other instances of suicide being depicted onscreen as well.
The Code, by the way, was self-regulation by the movie industry; it was not regulation by the government.
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She wasn't primarily holding the gun. And did we really see how the trigger was pulled ?
Remember, it was all about how to get around the code. I'm sure this probably was the argument made to get it passed. Without the code , she might have just taken the gun from him and did the deed herself.
There's a close shot of them pulling the trigger together.
There's a very sensual quality to it as someone has noted before.
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We are seeing half a film, half a picture, with the top and bottom missing. No sky, no grass, no lake, no mountains. It's just a querk of the incompatibility of the two formats.
The movies should have never left the old 4:3 format.
We didn't need wide screen for GONE WITH THE WIND, DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, THE THIRD MAN, OUT OF THE PAST, and all those beautiful 1940s Betty Grable Technicolor movies.
I think you are incorrect.
The purpose of letterboxing is to preseve the entire image of a film as seen in the cinema.
Letterboxing is used as an alternative to a full-screen, pan-and-scan transfer of a widescreen film image to videotape or videodisc. In pan-and-scan transfers, the original image is cropped to the narrower aspect ratio of the destination format, usually the 1.33:1 (4:3) ratio of the standard television screen, whereas letterboxing preserves the film's original image composition as seen in the cinema. Letterboxing was developed for use in 4:3 television displays before widescreen television screens were available, but it is also necessary to represent on a 16:9 widescreen display the unaltered original composition of a film with a wider aspect ratio, such as Panavision's 2.35:1 ratio.
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Happy about Blue Velvet. It was supposed to air for Summer of Darkness but got cancelled for some reason. I've never seen it but I mostly enjoy Lynch and I love Kyle MacLachlan in Twin Peaks (which I recently started watching)
Yes, I really hope BLUE VELVET does not get bumped this time.
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There is an interesting way anyone with a 16:9 LCD TV can tell if the black bars belong to the TV or if they are being broadcast to us by the TV channel.
Change your BRIGHTNESS and CONTRAST controls on your TV. If the black bars remain solid black, then that is your black TV screen you are seeing. But if the black bars get brighter with the change in brightness, then that means those black bars are being broadcast to us by that TV channel.
For example, when TCM shows a very wide Cinemascope movie, the top and bottom black bars are being broadcast to us by TCM, and we are receiving only about half a picture of the movie (the center half), while the top 1/4 and bottom 1/4 are the black bars that TCM is broadcasting to us.
Yes, when TCM uses letterboxing for those CinemaScope movies, we are seeing the entire image as it was shown theatrically.
The letterbox bars are used to preserve the original widescreen format of the movie.
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Has anyone ever seen the "Crime Does Not Pay" shorts on TCM? I find them to be very entertaining and interesting. I don't know how many shorts were made but I wish we had them today. Does anyone know of anymore film shorts that were popular during the 30s and 40s? If so, would love to hear about them. Being a devoted TCM fan, I love hearing anything about classic movies and film shorts. When I watch TCM, I feel like a person at a movie theater in the 40s. Sounds weird but it's TRUE.
I agree
The "Crime Does Not Pay" shorts are quite amusing.
I really appreciate TCM airing all the old movie shorts that they do.
"Duck And Cover" is a good one too.
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Sunday, July 19/20
3:15 a.m. Young Torless (1966). The film everyone has been waiting to see. The 63 year-old Tor Johnson received some of the worst reviews of his career when he played the teenage, Torless in this Volker Schlondorff film. Maybe TCM has been listening to the Tor Johnson campaign.
What?
Tor Johnson actually received bad reviews for hs work in YOUNG TÖRLESS?
Those reviewers were definitely just haters.
He was so utterly convincing as a teenager and completely transformed himself into that role.
He was credited in that movie as Mathieu Carrière, and if I didn't know better I would have sworn it was indeed a completely different actor rather than Tor Johnson ----- just as I would have swown that Pandora Spocks and Elizabeth Montgomery were two distinct individuals.
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Oh yeah, well i said "trailblazer," Valentino and those cats were PIONEERS.
#Respect

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Toots and Tootsie
slang for a woman. though Tootsie did make a come back with the Dustin Hoffman film.
I know there are some TOOTSIE haters on this board, but I love the movie.
I caught part of it on a channel called THIS (I think) recently, but (gasp!) it appeared to be in pan-and-scan stretched to widescreen.
Sydney Pollack would have had the heebie jeebies if he saw that .
Hey!
What about "heebie jeebies" as an arcane phrase?
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Isn't "Degrassi" a television show? What's it doing here?
Degrassi is so much more than a television show . . .

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Remember when Joey sold the "New Zealand Zappers" to his fellow Degrassi students?



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I love Natalie Wood. I'm looking forward to seeing Penelope again. I really enjoyed that movie when I watched it the last time it aired. It's a shame that this movie isn't on DVD. It's not even on "Print on Demand" on Warner Archives.
Right now my DVR is acting up. Hopefully the DVR can get it together by Monday so I can record the Natalie Wood movies. I'd really love to see Bob, Carol, Ted and Alice again too. TCM hasn't aired that one in awhile.
Yes, PENELOPE is such a fun movie.
I saw BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE a few years ago on TCM.
It's a good movie annd Natalie Wood is good in it and so very pretty too.
I love the opening.
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Has anyone mentioned "nix"?
As in "nix on that" or "nix that"?
I remember Bogart saying it in 'The Petrified Forest' when he was reminded that he was supposed to kill Leslie Howard. I believe he said "Nix on that, pal".
There's a Fleischer Popeye cartoon called "Nix On Hynotricks."

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I wonder if she has ever been chosen. TCM seema to have access to enough of her RKO and MGM titles to be do-able.
TCM did a tribute to Jane Greer one evening a few years ago.
I first saw THE COMPANY SHE KEEPS then.
I like that movie a lot, especially Jane Greer's performance.
I'm not sure if she was ever honored during Summer Under The Stars, but she should be.
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Glad You Saw It In A Theater FIRST
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I really, really wanted to see JAWS on the big screen when it returned recently but I had personal committments both days that it was screened.