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My first choices would be Geraldine Page and Marlon Brando.
Page and Brando are the best examples of film and stage actors trained in American interpretations of the techniques of Stanislavski, commonly referred to by the general public as "method" acting. (Brando actually hated this term because of its association with Lee Strasberg, whom Brando and his self-acknowledged mentor Stella Adler disdained).
Page continued to work on the stage after she began making movies (she actually worked more on the stage) while Brando's last appearance in a stage play was in 1953.
While both Page and Brando are considered to be "naturalistic" actors (in contrast to the "classic Hollywood" style), both of them were masters of their craft, able to use their considerable talent, skills and instincts to create real human beings in fictional circumstances.


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Damn. I'm gonna have to order it now.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the book, LHF, so I hope you either buy the book or get it from the library.
Desmond Atholl (the former Thomas-Donahue majordomo who wrote That Girl and Phil) does acknowledge in Chapter 1 ("First Meeting") that Marlo Thomas was a very geneous employer, paying her staff "well above the market rate."
I love this bit from the book jacket flap:
"Desmond Atholl, every milionaire's dream of a household steward, proves that he's also a born storyteller with this sidesplitting account of how he somehow managed to satisfy every whim of the demanding lady of the house with a lot of hard work and little bit of luck (a word that rhymes with Marlo's favorite expletive)."
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yay, at last, a contemporary movie that you and I are simpatico on! I love "Gosford Park" although I have only seen it once and that was on an airplane. Can you believe that Entertainment Weekly gave it an F in both their feature and DVD reviews? That was the exact moment I stopped paying attention to Entertainment Weekly.
No, I can't believe how any reviewer could give GOSFORD PARK a grade of F.
The EW reviewers must have been looking for a traditional murder mystery but what were they expecting from a Robert Altman movie?
He made a career taking on various genres and subverting them.
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TCM's Summer of Darkness Film Noir Class started this Monday. As one of the members of the class and a more seasoned member of this community (in comparison with my classmates in the noir class), I wanted to take the opportunity to welcome my fellow classmates to the TCM Message Board Community.
As many of the board veterans may have noticed, there have been new members commenting on various threads across the community. I welcome the opportunity to have more opinions and viewpoints and expertise involved in our discussion about TCM, classic film and all areas in between. The TCM Summer of Darkness Film Noir class at this moment has over 11,000 students enrolled. This is a staggering number of participants and I am excited that there are this many people interested in learning about one of film's greatest genres--film noir.
Although I'm not participating in the TCM film noir class, I'm glad that TCM is offering it.
Ball State University has an an excellent Film and Media Studies program (I have a friend who did her undergraduate work there) so I think that the course will be a worthwhile experience for those who are participating.
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There was a young girl who would dither
Despite her attempts at come hither
Levity is a sin
Dropping names to fit in
So she left to the strains of a zither
Was it to the strains of a zither or of a kazoo?
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Yes, we've seen it before, but there's nothing wrong with taking the time to see this witty, amusing WW II suspense thriller. Deborah Kerr sparkles in the role of a naive, I mean really naive, Irish slip of a girl, who, coming into her own, sets off from her small village to the big world of Dublin to offer her services to the IRA as her part in righting the wrongs visited on the Isle of Eire all these centuries ago by Oliver Cromwell (for whom she nurses an unaccountably personal animosity). She stumbles onto something more than she bargained for, or realizes, getting involved in Nazi shenanigans relating to D-Day. There is good writing, and able direction along the way, so much so that the movie even gets away with some pretty dark comedy at one point. But is is Deborah Kerr's movie all the way, and Trevor Howard, fully able to carry a movie on his own, is barley able to hold on with his fingernails as the somewhat two-dimensional love interest.
Thanks for the heads up on this one, slaytonf.
This movie was not on my radar.
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Oooh, sounds interesting.
I'm a big fan of westerns that are ostensibly westerns, but transcend the boundaries of the genre (ie Rancho Notorious. Johnny Guitar, even to some degree Bad Day at Black Rock) soes I will definitely keep an eye out for that one.
A TCM spotlight on Aldrich would be interesting.
I would love for TCM to spotlight the work of Robert Aldrich.
Maybe they could call it the "The Good, The Bad and The Lylah."
I also enjoy movies that are ostensibly in one genre but that trascend that genre to become really something else entirely.
One of the best examples I can think of is Robert Altman's GOSFORD PARK, which is ostensibly a murder mystery but the whodunit aspect is not the primary focus of the movie. In fact, the detective in the movie never learns the identity of the murderer (although the identity is revealed to the audience).
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My copy came in the mail on Sat. and I devoured it instantly. It's like a train wreck, you cant look away. Each chapter is related to a specific incident (and there are many) Lots of laughs. Truly incredible how the other half live (and act) I received the paperback version which has added information about stuff that happened during his book tour and after the original book was published. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

A real eye opener for THAT GIRL fans.............
The copy I have from the library is a hard cover edition.
I picked it up yesterday.
I had to really suppress a big smile when the person from the circulation desk brought it to me.
I'm not sure I was that successful.
And, let's not forget that it was I (Holden) who first mentioned this book in this thread.
The front flap of the book jacket alludes to some of the "episodes" detailed in the book:
"The Missing Designer Gown" or "Marlo Acts Like A K-Mart Shopper At A Blue Light Special"
"The Thankgsgiving Marlo Sent The Turkey Into Orbit"
"The Case of The Not-White-Enough Tulips"
"The Great Shoe Countdown: Imelda Marcos Meets Her Match"
The back of the book jacket details the "The Many Faces of That Girl":
That Cookie Monster
That Lady of the House
That Employer
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkUR0ZCR2g
Please forgive me, LHF, but Lylah has taken control . . .
"Molly Luther, the Wicked Witch of the West! You throw water on her and she shrivels, she meeeeeelts! Ha ha ha ha ha! Imagine that! She really melts! And all that’s left is a little phony flower and a dried up, disappointed FRRRRREAK!”
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Wrong Tor Johnson thread....
HA HA!
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No. Everyone who has seen it and lived would label it "excessive."
The real debate is over whether the word "excess" is too moderate a term for LYLAH.
Ah, yes, but I must admit I love those excesses.
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Wow. I had read Ava's book as a teen and recently spotted the copy when at my Mom's. I'll have to re-read that, I'm sure my perspective would be wholly different now.
But yeah, Artie Shaw being a jerk is about all I remember about it!
Yes, TikiSoo, Ava Garner's account of Artie Shaw's emotional abuse really stuck with me from the interviews I've read especially her remark that she could deal with George C. Scott's physical easier than the psychological trauma inflicted on her by Artie Shaw.
I'm glad I'm not familiar with Artie Shaw's work so I dont have be disappointed in learning these things about him.
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I had mentioned in another thread that my local theater is attempting to go digital. This theater is a historical landmark, as well as our only source for classic film presentations on the big screen (outside of the rare classic sci-fi presentation at our one remaining drive-in).
Without checking, it's a pretty sure bet the 40th Anniversary Jaws will be in digital format. Our theater has been screening many of these anniversary and special presentation "films" over the years, but this restoration doesn't look like it's going to make it here due to the lack of proper equipment.
I just checked the Fathom events website and was happy to see that the movie will be playing in 3 theaters in the city and in a few suburban theaters in my area.
I am excited to see this movie on the "big screen."
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Gentleman Jim ranks as a “don’t miss it” broadcast, particularly for those who have never seen the film. It’s always been a head scratcher to me that the film is not better remembered today. Flynn later called it the favourite film and role of his career.
I second the recommendation for GENTLEMAN JIM.
It is a a good movie (with a great performance by Errol Flynn) that deserves much more recognition.
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When it comes to Aldrich, my opinions of his films range as wildly as their subject matters. (Although there are many i have not seen.)
KISS ME DEADLY is perfect, it truly could not be a better movie, its in my top 15 faves of all time. DIRTY DOZEN is good. BABY JANE is good but could be better. AUTUMN LEAVES is middling, SWEET CHARLOTTE is bad, THE BIG KNIFE is awful, THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLAIRE - if viewed in its entirety more than once- may quite possibly f*** you up for life....
A wide spectrum of reactions to his work have I.
Yes, Aldrich's work definitely covers the spectrum.
As you probably know from my postings here. THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE is a favorite of mine despite the movie's flaws and what some would label its excesses.
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Heads up! Don't miss it!
I hope I'm not the only one whose been enjoying all the great Kurosawa films recently offered up by TCM. Last month we even got to see Yojimbo (1961), and everyone who caught that can look forward to the sequel, Sanjuro (1962), coming on tomorrow as our second import, after Rashomon (1951). But that's not all! On July 13 there will be another Kurosawa double-feature in the morning, starting with The Bad Sleep Well (1960) and following up with Scandal (1950). Of course, all aforementioned films star Kurosawa's better half, the sensational Toshiro Mifune!
Okay, so Kurosawa isn't exactly getting the ideal time-slots, but so long as my VCR can still squeak through a tape I'm not complaining. Please don't let up, TCM! Show Drunken Idiot (1948) next!
THRONE OF BLOOD aired last month too.
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Just watched a couple of minutes of the Bomba picture on this morning, Elephant Stampede.
Gott love how glam the jungle girls were in those days.
The BOMBA movies are trashed in the Maltin reviews (and okay by a lot of people), but I think they're fun in a kitschy way.
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ps- give Aggie the Oscar for Magnificent Ambersons, by all means. But not Hush-Hush. (she didn't win, but it's hard to believe she was considered the frontrunner for this. )
Yes, Agnes Moorehead, was wonderful in THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS as was Tim Holt.
PS. It's okay that you don't like HUSH HUSH SWEET CHARLOTTE.
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I cant think of anything, though there were some "naughty ladies" lingering when Selena went to market. But they were fully done up in Victorian clothing.......
I still haven't watched the 1950s version of SO BIG yet.
I'll keep my eyes and ears open for the TV-PG worthy content.
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Maybe TCM could feature as SOTM multiple actors who worked more on the stage instead of movies; actors like Booth and Tallulah Bankhead etc... Each Wednesday feature someone like them.
This would also be a good idea for Friday Night Spotlight.
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I love that movie! I love when Bette Davis pushes the heavy stone thing off the balcony and onto Olivia de Havilland. That is a great movie-- I'd record it if I already didn't own a copy.
Oh, yes, the stone falling on Olivia de Havilland is a highlight of the movie.
There are so many highlights though.
It's nice to see de Havilland as a "bad" character.

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