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A lady friend of mine was so terrified by Blair Witch that she literally had trouble sleeping for a couple of nights afterward. Totally baffled me. But she was born and raised in Queens, NY, so the woods were largely an alien realm to her. To me it was 3 annoying idiots screaming and crying while they wandered around the woods for an hour.
**spoilers**
By the ending, do you mean when the cameraperson runs down the stairs and fleetingly glimpses the one idiot facing the corner, and then the camera falls down?
**end spoilers**
2 of the three cast members have gone on to other things. The taller guy that played the camera man has been in many films and TV shows, including the well-received indie comedy Humpday a few years back, and a short stint on Bates Motel last year. The girl appeared in several things right after Blair Witch came out, but when her offers dried up, she went into the legal pot business, and later wrote a bestseller about her journey from actress to marijuana salesperson.
Well, you know Lawrence it is not just the female who is wimpy, since I remember going to a midnight movie showing of "Freaks" while I was in college, and sitting in front of me were two of the university's largest football players, munching on their popcorn and making cracks as the credits rolled.
During the first scene when the elderly lady calls to the freaks, who she refers to as her "children" to show themselves, Johnny Eck the Half Boy is seen zooming across the wooded area and the two football giants start screaming in fear and jump up, spilling their popcorn and then they zoom also up the aisle and leave!
Well, I'm sitting there thinking "What babies!" Every time I saw them on campus after that I would have to secretly laugh to myself about what wuses they were! I also had a friend who I showed "Candyman" to and she kept putting a pillow in front of her face during the movie, and blamed me for her having nightmares for weeks.
I guess I am just immune to believing any movie is real, no matter how convincing it is. I imagine the cameraman standing there right out of eyeshot, and it ruins any chance I believe what is happening is real. I did think the premise though of Blair Witch was very clever and did add to its believability.
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As one who loves learning strange facts about films, I am sure not many here will be nescient of any that I impart on this TCM board. But that still will not keep me from trying for in my quest I hope that others will share with me oddities about films they have learned during their sojourn watching and reading about films that I may become even more filled to the brim with such knowledge.
So, I'll start. I doubt that anyone here is not aware that the song "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" which was written by Bacharach and David and sung by the incomparable Gene Pitney, is nowhere to be heard in the actual film. So the story goes, John Ford didn't like the song and refused to put it in the film so if you have been waiting for it while watching Jimmy Stewart, give up now!
Anyone who already knew that little bit of trivia, probably knows lots more than I, so please share anything weird about film lore that you have garnered in your filmic travels. And thanks in advance!
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Oh, geez I simply love David Wayne!
One of the really unappreciated actors in the pantheon of greats. This guy graced so many films and it's true, he was as usual superlative in "M", which is really a rather thankless part which will always be compared to the Lang original. But with Losey at the helm I do think they made a very fine film and Wayne wisely does not copy Lorre but creates his own character. The ending scene is quite effective and shows his acting chops.
If Wayne is listed in the beginning credits of a film [which I always watch just to make sure who are playing lesser parts] then I ALWAYS watch. He could run the gamut from playing a guy who wants to off his wife and put her body in the car trunk for disposal, to a witty and charming little guy singing "Farewell, Amanda" as he does to Katharine Hepburn in "Adam's Rib". I also have always thought he was so important a fixture in the Sinatra film "The Tender Trap" since the main actors can play off him.
I was pleased recently while watching a Sunday morning repeat of the "Golden Girls" to see him playing a part as I think Blanche's daddy. No matter what he was in, he was fabulous.
So yes, I too thank TCM for showing this really well done remake of the Lang classic which held its own!
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There are quite a few good movies made from Maugham's literary works. Aside from several "anthology" films based on some of his wonderful short stories, there is, of course, The Razor's Edge, not to mention several versions of Of Human Bondage.
W. Somerset Maugham was a great writer, a master of character and story-telling. It's too bad he's so out-of-fashion now.
Being that we both are fans of Maugham's writing, Miss Wonderly I'll bet you have seen the film "Christmas Holiday" with Deanna Durbin. I had read most of Maugham's more famous works, but ordered the book that this film was based on after seeing it. It is said that Gene Kelly played such a heel in the film, that he refused ever again to take such a part as it was a very unsympathetic one, which is a bit surprising since he played the cad "Pal Joey" on stage who is also a bit crass. Yet this is the brilliance of the writing of Maugham, that Kelly's character weakness and criminal tendencies form the crux of the plot. To me it is definitely the best part poor Deanna ever had, since she is allowed to play a mature role, and since the film was directed by Robert Siodmak it has a very downbeat take. Now it is true that when I read the book, I realized that many things about the origins of the characters had been changed, but the film still is rivetting and gets the true meaning of the story, and Maugham as usual writes elegantly about his characters whose motivations are revealed slowly in a mysterious way. There are insights into the depths of their beings which is very profound and moving. I'd love to hear your take on this film, and also enjoyed reading your earlier post about Maugham's works. Thanks for sharing and I'm so glad to find another who appreciates his amazing talents.
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Bullfighters are known for being VERY well-endowed. At least until the bull gets them in that area.
I think someone gave you a bum steer on that one, DGF.
By the way, I just made up a joke. How do you know that Monty Hall of "Let's Make a Deal" used to be a bullfighter?
Cuz he is always saying "Pick a Door"!
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Tuesday, April 19
8 p.m. A Taste of Honey (1962) Dora Bryan is great as Rita Tushingham’s mother.
4:30 a.m. Executive Action (1973) A long neglected JFK assassination film. I’m surprised it is on the schedule.
Thanks, Bogie, I've wanted for a long time to see "A Taste of Honey" again!
I don't need to watch "Executive Action" though since I've solved the Kennedy assassination a long time ago. Let's just say the biggest clue is in a very little detail that is not about the grassy knoll, or the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, or shell casings, or if Jada saw Ruby and Oswald at the Carousel or even if someone was shooting from below the street in a sewer.
Just watch all the old film footage of who and what was showing up at Parkland Hospital and then who or what is leaving the Dallas Police headquarters, right after Ruby shoots Oswald and you have the solution.
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Apologies to Jethro Tull and Ian, but it seems appropriate when discussing jungle epics on film that such things might be occurring behind the scenes after all the pith helmets get taken off.
Now a great jungle film would be "Jungle Hell" from the mid-1950's since this is its IMDB synopsis:
Jungle Hell (1956)
A tribe in the Indian jungle is threatened by flying saucers, mysterious rays and radioactive rocks.
Seriously what more could anyone ask for but Sabu, with UFO's and radioactivity in rocks, plus mysterious rays to boot?
I love almost all jungle epics, unless they might star June Allyson, who I would not use a pitchfork on but would ask the witch doctor to place a voodoo curse and then have her boiled alive.But I digress. Name your most treasured jungle pictures so we can all see them if we've so far been deprived of the ordeal, oops I mean honor!
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I thought that you wouldn't get a true hi-def picture if you use the old red, white, and yellow cables. That, and it screws up the aspect ratio.
Or, at least, the latter is what I found with my old DVD player. 4:3 movies I could get to show up properly if I set the proper aspect ratio on the TV, but wide-screen movies like Mahogany didn't look right no matter what I tried. Thankfully, the old DVD player was also freezing quite a bit, so I had an impetus to get a new player. I got the Sony BDP-S1500 (I think; the instructions list three different models; I've got the bottom of the line model since I don't do 3D TV) Blu-Ray player. That, the HDMI cable, and the tax came to about $81. Setup was a breeze; the most difficult thing was getting through the mass of cables/plugs behind the entertainment unit.
Now every DVD I've tried looks to have the correct aspect ratio, with one exception, and that one I think it's the DVD not being listed in the proper aspect ratio on the box.I haven't bought any Blu-Rays yet, although I think I've got the Saboteur Blu-Ray in my Amazon cart waiting for me to make another order. (I've got an order of several DVD box sets on the way currently, so it'll be a while before I make another purchase.)
Yeah, you are right, Fedya. I had to hook up my dvd player first from the outside cable HDMI thingie and then with another connection going up through the HDMI jack on my tv. If one still has an older model without blue-ray or HDMI, then they would still be using the red, white and yellow cables to the tv monitor.
"Saboteur" definitely would be great to own on dvd. Thanks for your post. It is interesting to me to see what different people here are purchasing on dvd or maybe I am just a very nosy person trying to pry into other's collections.
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Shelly Winters played all the characters, true. But that shows her what a great actress she was.
I saw an interview she did with Dick Cavett and she appeared with Oliver Reed. They got into an argument and she poured liquid over his head.
That has to be one of the greatest live interview events ever recorded. Shelley was on first and was her usual delightfully bubbly and exuberantly loquacious self, then Oliver came on and she kept interrupting him. It was hilarious. And then he started verbally jousting with her, about how men were better chefs and better at everything and Johnny Carson just kept his mouth shut knowing this was great tv. Then they went to commercial, and come back as Shelley from offstage walks up and pours a glass of wine right over the top of Reed's head. He did absolutely nothing and was stonefaced with no reaction as Carson cracked up. I had to give Ollie some credit for taking it that well. I believe you can pull up the whole segment on Youtube and trust me it is worth seeing.
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Yeah. I'd give the pitchfork some use on that miserly and devious old dude who owns the bank in Bedford Falls, alright!
(...and I'm sure it wouldn't take much to get many of you to join in with me on this, now would it?!)
Heck, I kinda like Mr. Potter.
Just cuz he is not on the happy juice, is no reason to hate him. He basically tells Jimmy the truth but okay he was wrong to take Uncle Billy's deposit money.
But without Old Man Potter, no story...right?
I rest my case. It's a dirty job to be mean for a movie tale but someone has to do it.
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Lawrence, you neglected to mention in what film you'd like to pitchfork June Allyson.
Oh, wait, I get it.
I think June even had the ability to annoy Jimmy Stewart when she played his wifey.
The only movie I ever liked her in was that oddball one called "The Shrike" I think. In it she plays a really even more annoying part than the usual Juney saccharine type.
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Memorable character actresses, part 2
British actress Margaret Rutherford earned an Oscar for her supporting performance in THE V.I.P.S, but she had been delighting audiences with her work for years. She was quite memorable as an eccentric medium in the 1945 screen version of Noel Coward’s BLITHE SPIRIT. And she turned up in two of Norman Wisdom’s comedies a decade later– perhaps the only costar to nearly upstage the wiry comedian. Though it’s her skill in those Agatha Christie mysteries from the 1960s that everyone probably remembers most. Who else portrayed Miss Marple so well?
One of the best character actresses of the 1930s and early 1940s was undoubtedly Helen Westley. She worked at most of the major Hollywood studios, but had her most significant roles at 20th Century Fox. She was a confidante in MOULIN ROUGE; she was a countess in THE BARONESS AND THE BUTLER; and she was a spinster aunt in REBECCA OF SUNNYBROOK FARM. In fact, she wound up making four films with Shirley Temple. Though agitated bitter women seemed to be her specialty, she could also be kind and sympathetic when the part called for it. Perhaps her greatest moment on screen occurs in Columbia’s BEDTIME STORY where she plays an excellent drunk scene with Robert Benchley and Fredric March.
Another renowned actress from the 1930s and early 1940s was May Robson. She had the market cornered on misunderstood battle axes in films like LADY FOR A DAY and LADY BY CHANCE. If the scene necessitated it, she could holler and scream with the best of them; but she could also lower it down several notches and pour on soft-spoken charm as well. Robson was one of the earliest born actresses to work in the sound era of motion pictures; she didn’t become a household name until she was in her 70s. But did she ever make up for lost time.
Judy Holliday earned an Oscar for her smashing performance in BORN YESTERDAY. And while she mostly played lead roles in her films, she was always a character actress at heart. Nobody could have brought Gladys Glover to life so perfectly in Columbia’s IT SHOULD HAPPEN TO YOU. She conveys the right amount of vulnerability playing a misguided attention-seeking gal from New York City. She was paired with Jack Lemmon in the film, and they reunited a short time later for PHFFFT! Imagine a word without vowels. And imagine a world without Judy Holliday. I sure can’t.
Ding dong, the you-know-what is dead. But she lives on in countless re-airings of THE WIZARD OF OZ, courtesy of Margaret Hamilton. And while the actress was undoubtedly typecast after this film was made, she managed to turn up in a variety of motion pictures and television programs for years. Check out her role in STABLE MATES, as a potential love interest for Wallace Beery (you have to see it, to believe it). Or her determined suffragette in Preston Sturges’ THE BEAUTIFUL BLONDE FROM BASHFUL BEND. Though perhaps her best non-witch part came in Lewis Milestone’s adaptation of THE RED PONY, where she plays a sincere schoolmarm.
I don't know how I missed this post, TB since you have all my faves on it, but the one I love most is May Robson. I have many pictures of her as a young lady during her Broadway sojourns before she went to Hollywood in a great book I have called "A Pictorial History of the Theatre". It has scads of photos of people like her and even Harry Davenport as a young boy, which is quite the sight to see since he usually played a grandpa in films. May Robson was one of the best at dear, sweet yet good with a quip elderly ladies and it's too bad there is no one like her today. Thanks for honoring her and the rest of the great group you showcased.
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I alphabetize my VHS tapes alphabetically by label. If I didn't do that I'd never be able to find anything. I've got 87+ boxes of VHS tapes. Collected tapes here 'n' there over the past 27 years since I was 16.
I only have some 120 DVD's. No Blu-Rays.
As far as 'double-dipping' somehow I've ended up with 6 copies of JEREMIAH JOHNSON (1972). I never intended to get so many tapes of 'JJ', but here is the breakdown:
1 early-release VHS Warner big, cardboard box (from 1981)
3 Warner clamshell releases. 2 of them are minty with un-faded artwork and they were all cheap.
1 Warner small-box VHS in 'Full Screen'
1 Warner small-box VHS of 'Jeremiah Johnson' in W I D E S C R E E N
I also have 5 copies of the 1982 UK PAL-format VHS release of THE CAREY TREATMENT (1972) on MGM Home Video. I used to have 10. All 5 of my remaining 'CAREY's are very tidy -and- have original Cast Cards inside the big, silver boxes. (THE CAREY TREATMENT was never released on VHS in the U.S.; I bought all those PAL tapes before the U.S. DVD-R release, btw).
I know I don't actually qualify for this thread cos I'm a tape collector first and foremost, but I just had to put my put 2¢ worth into the topic. Please excuse me.
Cheers. (P.S. I ♥ mylar).
Only 120 dvd's, eh? Well I'm sure you will catch up quickly, Mr.G.!
That's hilarious about JJ. I think you may be a record setter on that one. My closest similar overpurchasing might be that many versions I have of "Vampyr" on all formats, and in many languages.
Anyone who loves "mylar" is a wonderful human being. I'm sure many current film collectors on dvd, also have VHS tapes in storage just in case their dvd player goes out.
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I alphabetize my DVDs and I still have VHS. I never did get into Blue ray.
As for multiple copies of movies. Due to boxed sets and buying DVDs of old VHS films I have more than one copy of;
The 39 Steps
I routinely PVR movies I own on DVD or VHS when they air on TCM or Silver Screen Classics (Canadian channel) so I can watchthem multiple times.
Excellent, GPF!
You go to the front of the group for admitting you alphabetize. Some people are ashamed to admit it, but it shows true addiction to films.
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I have entirely too many DVD's and Blu ray's. I'm going to have to rearrange my shelves soon and get a few new ones, as I've started to double up on some shelves and I hate to do that.
You started this thread during the slowest season of my DVD buying in the past few years. I've reached that point where I have most of the older films I want, and very few new ones are coming along that I'm interested in. It's been a few weeks, but the last new one I got was the Criterion Blu Ray of Bicycle Thieves. I don't think I have another one ordered until next month's release of In a Lonely Place, also from Criterion.
I own both of those films, Lawrence!
To join this club you need to admit if you alphabetize your dvd's?
Also, a true addict has at least once bought the same title twice, because they have too many films on dvd. I had to start making a list of what I own since it was up in the 600 film stratosphere and I'd forget what I had already. Thanks!
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I saw Black Magic years ago and recall quite enjoying it.
If memory serves me correctly, it has terrific photography and great set design. I also recall enjoying Orson Welles's highly theatrical turn as Cagliostro. He must have been in melodramatic over-the-top form around then, for the same year as this film he was similarly commanding and baritone voiced dramatic as Cesare Borgia in Prince of Foxes.
It is a fabulous film and really deserves a much wider reputation. I think the credits said it was directed by Gregory Ratoff but IMDB says Orson was uncredited as co-director. It certainly seems to be his style. Thanks for your thoughts, Tom!
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Yes, should have specified - the original! It was so shocking the first time i watched it, and I can't wait to see it again.
I try to get movies that I've already seen and liked (so that I don't waste too much money), and I love ITHOTN too... I just finished The Civil War and it was very emotional. I think Ken Burns brought documentary filmmaking to a whole new level; it's "entertaining", not just "a learning experience".
I'll go on DVD "binges" and buy many over a short period of time. Other DVDs I got recently were Cape Fear, The Omen, Our Gang Silents (3 volumes), Lazybones, "The Fugitive" series, and on and on.
I so agree, about Burns I mean.
Yep, I think the old Stepford was the best. Wasn't it written by Ira Levin of "Rosemary's Baby" fame? You got some great stuff. I'm assuming "CF" is also the old one, and love that Fugitive series.
I think David Janssen always looked so sad in that show, but it was not because he was being pursued for killing his wife. It was because he came from an old show biz family, and had a horrid stage mother who was like an old chorine and almost forced him into the business, saying that there was "no other business than show business". Scary!
Update: Just found this article on Janssen's stage mother. Check out articles on Berniece Graf or the following:
http://www.ew.com/article/1993/08/13/david-janssens-stage-mother
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What a funny thread title, Tom !
I'm sure there are many, but off-hand, Julie Harris' character in Member of the Wedding (the ultimate self-absorbed adolescent angsty whiner), and Felix Ungar in The Odd Couple, especially when he's trying to clear his sinuses.
Miss Wonderly, which Felix annoys you more, the Jack Lemmon movie one or the Tony Randall tv one?
PS Have you always been MissWonderly with the "3" or were you watching "The Three Faces of Eve" recently? I did not recall that number being part of your appellation before. Excuse me if I'm blind.
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Apparently Frank Sinatra's was too. Again, according to Ava Gardner.
Ava did seem to have some rather strange taste in men. I mean, Mickey and Frank and before that wasn't she with Artie Shaw?
I think she just wanted those fools money, but was really into the bullfighter type for romance.
I remember my great uncle talking about her sitting next to him in a restaurant in Durham, during the war when he was stationed there. Said she was giving all the guys the eye. Kinds of reminds me of the "I Love Lucy" episode where Fred Mertz sees her at the Brown Derby I think.
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Lol, you're singing my song...
Speaking of only very recently, I bought DVDs of Stepford Wives, In the Heat of the Night, and The Civil War by Ken Burns.
Whoa, was that the new "Stepford Wives" or the original, Eugenia?
Love ITHOTN!
That Ken Burns really does make the best documentaries. They are the sine qua non, of documentaries because I think he tries to unearth every bit of film, photos and other artifacts to delineate the stories without worrying about how long it will take of what it will cost. I will watch documentaries of his on topics that otherwise I would not even care about.
Thanks for your response and you are now a charter member of the DVDSNC!
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Ha, ha, CaveGirl.
My current DVD player that bleeds colour has not been replaced with the new DVD player that does not bleed colour but ther ehas been no time or tech help doing this yet. That has not stopped me from having purchased the DVD of Hitchcock, the movie starring Anthony Hopkins as the director about the making of Psycho.
I would like to wait until my new DVD player is installed to watch this new to-me movie.
GPF, I just spent like five hours reading all the literature on setting up my cable in a bedroom and programming all the channels. Whew! Who knew that if you take more than two minutes to replace the batteries in the new remote that came with the digital box, that you would lose all the programming already inset.
Don't you just have to put the red, white and yellow jacks into place on both units for hooking up your new dvd player? Or do you have your HDMI connection going through the dvd player and into the tv HDMI connection?
I heard Dargo is good at mechanical things. I bet he would come over and do this for you, if you promised him some snacks and paid him with a dvd of "You Bet Your Life" episodes.
Or I can give you an old Marx Brothers poster I used to have up my basement as payment for him. Just ask!
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I love this movie, and when I saw last night was "Gable-at-sea" themed, I thought to myself it'd make a better inclusion than MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY, which airs a lot and which will doubtless be airing again soon.
CHINA SEAS is a wonderful "initiation" film for hooking someone on classic movies, it is so definitively 1930's and all the actors are at their best.
I may be mistaken, but the subplot about the "fake or real?" pearls owned by a duplicitous wife and discovered by a cad on an Ocean Liner was re-used in one of the vignettes in the 1950 film TRIO- based on three stories by SOMERSET. MAUGHAM. It is very similar. TRIO is also a delightful film which shows up on TCM from time to time, although sadly not as often as BEN-HUR.
EDIT- HERE WE GO FROM THE ENTRY FOR "TRIO" ON WIKIPEDIA:
Mr. Know-AllReserved Mr. Gray (Wilfred Hyde-White) finds himself forced to share a cabin on an ocean liner with the loud, opinionated, supremely self-confident gem dealer Max Kelada (Nigel Patrick). Kelada soon dominates all the onboard social gatherings, much to the annoyance of his fellow passengers, who take to calling him "Mr. Know-All" behind his back because of his insistence that he is an expert on all subjects.
One night, he remarks on the fine quality of the pearl necklace worn by the pretty Mrs. Ramsay (Anne Crawford), who has rejoined her husband (Naunton Wayne) after a two-year separation caused by his work. Mr. Ramsay bets him that the pearls are fake; Kelada swiftly accepts the wager, despite Mrs. Ramsay's attempt to call it off. While examining the pearls, Kelada observes that the woman is very uneasy. He then admits that he was wrong and pays Mr. Ramsay.
Afterwards, back in their cabin, Gray and Kelada are surprised when a banknote is slipped under their door. Gray gets Kelada to tell the truth: the pearls are real and very costly. Kelada adds that he would not have left such an attractive wife alone for that long. Gray begins to warm to his cabinmate.
That's my favorite short tale from a Somerset Maugham anthology movie. Nigel Patrick steals the show in that one and Maugham had a wonderful way of seeing into a person's inner being and character that not many writers possess for sure.
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Welcome to the bi-weekly meeting of the DVD Shopaholic Nonanonymous Club.
We have no 12-step program since we are not into curing our addiction.
The purpose of the club is to meet and discuss any new dvd purchases we have made in the last 3-4 days and you must post bi-weekly. I'll start since I have been very busy buying more dvd's to put into my giant Rubbermaid containers which need to be filled asap.
Last week I bought the boxed set of the complete tv series, "Science Fiction Theatre" hosted by Truman Bradley. Now I was not expecting much being that it is from like 1955-1957 and I assumed would be in black and white, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Imagine my surprise to start Disc One and see it appear in beautiful living color and very good prints. Plus oddly enough the first episode was called "Beyond" and curtailed wonderfully with a chapter of a book I am reading about UFO's from the tv show "Decoded". I can see now that SFT heavily influenced later tv sci-fi shows like "Outer Limits" and "Twilight Zone" even though it was a bit more based on tales from reality.
I also purchased a boxed set of "One Step Beyond" episodes hosted by John Newland which is marvy also and has many stars who later went on to Hollywood films.Well, I must say I am very pleased with my shopping and highly recommend the above sets.
If you would like to join the club, first you must submit to a test detailing how often you shop for dvd's and then you must keep up your average monthly of at least two offerings or you might be kicked out of the club pronto for being a slacker.
If you are already in the club and were not blackballed, then please list your most recent dvd buys and your reviews.
Thanks!
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Monday April 18, 2016
Val Lewton horror on TCM
BEDLAM with Boris Karloff
THE BODY SNATCHER with Boris Karloff
I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE with James Ellison
ISLE OF THE DEAD with Boris Karloff
THE GHOST SHIP with Richard Dix
THE SEVENTH VICTIM with Kim Hunter
THE LEOPARD MAN with Dennis O’Keefe
THE CAT PEOPLE with Simone Simon
THE CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE with Simone Simon
Dang, I wish I were home right now!
Oh, wait...I own the boxed set of Val Lewton films.
Never mind.
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Now every DVD I've tried looks to have the correct aspect ratio, with one exception, and that one I think it's the DVD not being listed in the proper aspect ratio on the box.
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I would watch those two films just to see how purty that R.J. Wagner was in his heyday!