CaveGirl
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BOSTON B* L* A* C* K* I* E* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really?
You think Boston **** had a paramour in this other guy because of the thoughts of some "schmo"?
I guess I am never affected by things other people say, if they make no sense to me.
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I think symbolism can be fascinating in its own right, but I prefer to watch a film for what it's worth and leave the symbolism to the highbrows. I've had more movies ruined for me when they've been picked apart. "Oh, this guy handed his fork to his friend which means they really had a gay relationship going."
In the Boston MmmMmm series, **** and Runt share not only an apartment, but a bedroom. I never thought anything of it until some schmo said something and it now it's in my mind forever. Of course, there is the strangeness of Runt keeping a framed portrait of ****, but uh.... Hmmm...
Sorry I am not aware of the film you mention, Janet.
For me, I like to understand the possibly undercover and subtext meanings, so that when I watch something like about "Leda and the Swan" I do not assume that the story is about bestiality, and want to protest its showing due to thinking it is about cruelty to swans from amorous women.
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There is a vast difference between Cornell Woolrich's short story, "Rear Window" and John Michael Hayes' screenplay of that story.
Recently, at the Hartford Stage Company, I believe, a "gay" full-length stage treatment of the short story was done.
It starred Kevin Bacon as the gay man.
I would love to have seen that, Rayban. Thanks!
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I could see this being shown as a clerical error. For people living in outer space or in a fantasy land, I could see them making this error. The code name of Mark Felt who finally did admit he was D.T. before he died would be just the thing for someone at the switch button to make a mistake.
By the way, the father of the man on this site who calls himself ClassicMovieRankings was on the staff of the Washington Post at the time of Watergate and knew Woodward and Bernstein very well. Ask him about his father. He will be happy to talk about Watergate from a different perspective.
Having read "All the President's Men" and "All the King's Men" about Huey Long, I really enjoyed reading your post, GPF!
Yes, I'd rather see a film about Mark Felt, than one with Linda Lovelace for sure.
I always had a thing for Ben Bradlee, and thought Jason Robards played him to perfection in the film. Reading about "CREEP" was so much fun and now I'm reading "Dr. Mary's Monkey" which is another type of "if we had but known" thriller.
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I lifted this from imdb and had to post it.
Just Hilarious! LMREO...
Visconti told Bogarde that when the lights went up in a Los Angeles screening room after a showing of "Death in Venice" for American studio executives, no one said anything. The silence encouraged Visconti, who believed it meant that the executives were undergoing a catharsis after watching his masterpiece. However, he soon realized that, in Bogarde's own words, "Apparently they were stunned into horrified silence . . . A group of slumped nylon-suited men stared dully at the blank screen." One nervous executive, feeling something should be said, got up and asked, "Signore Visconti, who was responsible for the score of the film?"
"Gustav Mahler," Visconti replied.
"Just great!", said the nervous man. "I think we should sign him."
That reminds me of the line from Fred Allen about people in Hollywood, and also the apocryphal bit about in the film, "The Taming of the Shrew" that besides Shakespeare the credits said "Additional dialogue by Sam Taylor".
Both show the sometimes absurd lack of intelligence in Tinseltown bigwigs.
Loved your post, Hibi!
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It's the Academy, not a leather bar.
That was a good one, Down!
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I waited with anticipation yesterday for the TCM showing of "Nightmare" with Kevin McCarthy and Edward G. Robinson. Having read the tale, since I collect any anthologies of Cornell Woolrich I was hoping for the best, and it was wonderful.
The film gives you a sense of disequilibrium and mystery. The plot about a man obsessed with the memory of having killed someone worked well, and the cast was excellent. Obviously not made with a big budget but still, a class movie.
Which brings us to Woolrich. Probably having more films that are now considered in the noir genre, than any other author, it is instructive that his own life was a bit bland and boring. He mostly was holed up in a hotel room living with his mother, Claire most of his life. The themes of alienation and being imprisoned do resonate though through his work which might have been influenced by his self-imposed living conditions.
Having written the book on which "Rear Window" was based on, I've read that he was hurt that he was not given much mention at the premiere. He also wrote the stories or books on which films like "Phantom Lady", "No Man of Her Own", "The Leopard Man", "Black Angel" and so many other are based on.
Whether as William Irish or other aliases were used, his stories were always suspenseful and made for the movies. Anyone else watch "Nightmare"?
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The Academy is composed mostly of old white men, not nubile young things.
Too bad it is not composed of "nubile" young men.
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Hey CaveGirl, is using all them acronyms symbolic of some deep unwritten meaning?
Took me a few moments to link munched mouse with a mislaid weekend...
If TCM ever did decide to air Deep Throat, they could also double head it with Perversion for Profit to provide some balance (or replace it at the last moment with All the President's Men & say it was an clerical error).
Yes, using acronyms excessively can be an advanced sign of acronymphomania infecting one's hidden recesses.
Luckily I am on strong medication and not in a place like "The Snake Pit".
Please, I beg of you do not, I repeat, do not ask TCM to show DT.
Besides, LL has repented of her sins and if you are going to show an X-film, at least make it be one with a better storyline like "The Devil in Miss Jones".
Speaking of "clerical" errors they could show "The Cardinal" which supposedly was based on Cardinal Spellman.
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Bell Book & Candle is a fluffy romantic comedy about witches and warlocks. That is, it's about a small minority group with its own subculture and Greenwich Village bars filled with flamboyant over-the-top types, and the main character's dilemma is whether to leave that underground lifestyle for a conventional marriage.
I totally dig that movie, and Gillian's shop with all the Oceanic Art, Mr. K.!
Good call, I'd not thought of it that way but now I can see clearly, thanks to your insights.
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The film (SPECTER OF THE ROSE) has a well-staged climax involving a hotel window. Very well made, and Judith Anderson on hand, giving another one of her brilliant performances.
I always thought that the scene with the dancer appearing to almost climb the walls, was a tribute to Nijinsky, who was known to appear to almost levitate on stage. Since there is no footage of him extant, I will have to do with SOTR.
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The Baltimore Ravens were named after Poe's "The Raven". Poe had a Baltimore connection.
I've read that the stories of Poe being found drunk in a gutter in Baltimore, were mostly being bandied about by a man who despised Poe and wanted to ruin his reputation, Down.
I guess that didn't work, happily.
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THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL(1951)
We ARE all aware by now(and for quite some time) of it's CHRISTIAN/NEW TESTAMENT symbolism, right?
The human formed alien coming down from the heavens.....Takes on the name "Carpenter",....with his message of peace and need for brotherhood( or face dire consequences). His getting killed by the military authorities, and being brought back to life, and THEN giving his mesage and plea for the brotherhood of man before ascending back nto the heavens.
Cripes. I even have a friend who calls the flick, "KLAATU, The King of Kings!"
But yes, I've long loved this flick LONG before that stuff was brought to my attention, as just a sci-fi flick.
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Right on, Sepia!
Yes, Christlike figures do appear in some sci-fi films. Look at Scott Carey in "The Incredible Shrinking Man". I did hear though that the author Richard Matheson did not at all like that interpretation of his story.
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I have this Edgar Allen Poe book that has tiny lettering in it which I occasionally attempt to read, but it is hard on my eyes.
I wish that TCM's look at horror movies in October would take a look at author-themed nights. Poe could be one night. Ethel Lina White could be another etc.
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I have this Edgar Allen Poe book that has tiny lettering in it which I occasionally attempt to read, but it is hard on my eyes.
I wish that TCM's look at horror movies in October would take a look at author-themed nights. Poe could be one night. Ethel Lina White could be another etc.
Glad you also mentioned White, GPF!
I love, love, love EAP so much I tried to buy some absinthe recently, to have and imbibe while watching any of the Price films.
Don't know if it is the real stuff or some pale imitation. I'd like to retain some brain cells so might cut the wormwood with some creme de cacao?
I read almost all Poe tales while in high school, and still think he is the master; shoot, he invented the detective tale, did he not.
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Thursday March 31, 2016
Classic "How-to" on Amazon Prime
HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE with Betty Grable
HOW TO STEAL A MILLION with Audrey Hepburn
HTMAM has such great color! I definitely will be watching for the umpteenth time, TB.
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Eclectic choices, CG. By the way, SPECTER OF THE ROSE is on Amazon Prime.
Hey, thanks TB, as usual!
I tried to pick things that I've never seen on TCM, which influenced my choices.
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TikiSoo baby, that would depend on who you ask. Holden is a big fan of the film, as are several other intelligent and discerning posters here. I, on the other hand, found it not only depressing but boring as hell. I can take "depressing", but when it comes to "boring", I'm out. (But I suspect I'm not as discerning as other posters who appreciate "Grey Gardens".)
I know this is blasphemy, and I also know how much everybody here hates poor old Drew, but the fact is, I found the more "fictionalized" 2009 biopic movie about the Edies and Grey Gardens much more entertaining. It featured Drew as Little Edie and Jessica Lange as her mother. I thought it wasn't bad, but then I'm a plebian and a philistine. In fact, I'm a plebian philistine.
Stop bragging, Miss W. about being a PP!
I really liked the Drew take on GG, but then I also liked the original GG. I also like stuff by the Maysles brothers and documentaries.
And I was always a fan of Miss Favisham [?]* from "Great Expectations" living in her seedy mansion and living in the past, so that might have influenced me. Either that or I am just decadent and like to see anomalies of nature in their natural environment.
* Correction: that should have been Miss Havisham
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I'm with GPF in hatred for MARS ATTACKS. I never could undestand the critic's fawning over that mess. What a TERRIBLY sad way for SYLVIA SIDNEY to end her film career.
Anyway, back to Beatty-----
We all know the idea of "good looks" has always been subjective. Both many women, and even some guys thought Warren was a good lookin' guy. My EX claimed once that HER love of Warren as a "cutie" went back to DOBIE GILLIS. Fair is fair I guess, I liked the show comedy wise anyway, but my interest DID pick up a bit when TUESDAY WELD entered the scene!
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I can understand your antipathy toward MA, Sepia but I guess I like it since one of my boyfriends was into the Mars Attacks trading cards and would collect them, since he loved artwork by Wally Wood, who also worked for Bill Gaines and had done things for "Mad" and EC Comics.
That made the movie memorable for us both and Tim Burton really was only following that storyline. It was fun to see the original cards manifested onscreen. I think whole decks are selling for close to a thousand dollars online.
Boo hoo, I only have a complete deck of Elvis trading cards.
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Jumping in here for no particular reason (except I saw that LornaHansenForbes was posting on this thread), I have to say (well, of course I don't have to say; I choose to say), I've never thought Warren Beatty was the handsome hunk he's generally regarded to be. In fact, I do not find him attractive at all. I picked the handsomest picture of him I could find, and even it (the best pic) doesn't do anything for me.
"Come on, miss w, how can you resist me?"
Quite easily, actually, Warren baby.
I dunno...his eyes are too close together. Thank sounds mean, but I don't think Mr. Beatty has to worry about one lowly classic movie message board poster not liking his looks.
And he looks like a "jock", at least he did in his early movies. Never been attracted to the jock type.
"That said", I like him as an actor and am a fan of several of his movies - my favourite probably being Splendour in the Grass, (in which, come to think of it, his character was a bit of a jock.)
Hey, girlfriend [and hopefully people here will not take that literally not that there is anything wrong with that if they did]!
I never found Warren attractive either. I mean I can see why some women would, but I guess he's not my type either.
Which I'm sure is just bothering him immensely. Actually he looks just like my cousin, Rick who was also a female magnet, but never had a song written about him by Carly Simon alas.
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Lord of the Flies. I read the book in high school and then saw the film. I cannot believe it even today, but it would appear based upon what fellow classmates said that I was the only person in over 300 people in grade 11 to see anything symbolic in the novel. I saw it as civilization disintegrating with everyone on the island representing every aspect of society - rape, murder, etc.
No one else read any symbolism into it at all. They say it as an adventure film.
Well, you may have just been a bit ahead of the curve symbolically, GPF.
Great choice, and I have to admit you would look lovely in a crown.
Speaking of crowns, I wonder who got the symbolism of Jill breaking her crown in Jack and Jill?
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Well, just off the top of my head I'd choose "Specter of the Rose" directed by Ben Hecht, "El" directed by Bunuel, "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek" by Preston Sturges and "Buster and Billie" directed by I don't remember.
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Apologies to Mister Ed, but in art and the movies, a horse is NOT always a horse, of course of course.
Check any dream dictionary or book on symbolism, and you will find it might be representing more than a horse. Why it could be respresenting a libido or who knows?
Symbolism as an art movement, began midcentury in the 1800's, and was a fixture in art and painting and poetry till the onset of WWI. For many, that period ended the fascination with symbolic content, but I don't think it ever ended entirely in films.
If one only takes things totally literally, then they often miss the real meaning in a film by let's say, Fellini. And then their take on the film is biased and naive.
For example, is "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" really about seed pods taking over the world, or could it be Don Siegel's take, as many have seen, on the HUAC aftermath of Senator Joseph McCarthy.
The good thing is, with symbolism, you can enjoy it both ways, but if you only understand a singular interpretation you may be totally missing the point of the film.
Symbolism is there to show something which is not visually apparent and hence serves a purpose in life. You could say it is the bread of life, which feeds the imagination.
Name a film which can be viewed on one simplistic level, but then on a deeper level due to symbolism and I shall crown you with a laurel wreath.
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Wait a minute. Does "as the synopsis states" mean you haven't actually seen the film?
In case this view is prompted only by the reading of a "synopsis", it reminds me of the flack originally over the tv mini-series, "Jesus of Nazareth" with Robert Powell. Before it was even screened, various groups were objecting to its content and wanting it removed from the airwaves.
But the amusing part is, afterwards the same groups started championing it, never realizing that if their wishes had been honored it would never have been seen by anybody.
Interestingly, many say that Pasolini's "The Gospel According to Saint Matthew" is one of the best religious movies ever made, in spite of the fact of his reputation as a profligate.
I enjoyed your, as always, knowledgeable and insightful comments on DIV, Miss Wonderly!
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Deep Throat was a cultural phenomenon when it was released. Hardcore porn wasn't as stigmatized as it is now, and in the free-love, anything goes sexual revolution period when it was premiered, it was talked about quite frequently in print and on television. Many A-list stars were photographed attending screenings, and as such it wasn't immediately dismissed to the "raincoat" crowd. Because it was discussed so openly, the church had to make a statement.
I just thought Stigmata was lousy, but I know it has its fans.
If TCM shows DT the movie with LL, I might be getting the DT's from the movie TLW, just like RM did, Lawrence.
I never want to see that mouse getting eaten by the bat in the wall hole, with the blood dripping down like an EC comic book.
Yikes!
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Warning:Contains Symbolic Content!
in General Discussions
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Absolutely, Sans Fin!
Obviously men invent things that replicate their own favorite body parts.
You should know, since all those old cars had those giant fins!