CaveGirl

I own that boxed set of "Thriller" episodes and that is one of my faves, thanks!

Would that have been written by Hank Arron or Elvis Arron Presley, James? I know I know, the first one is really Aaron, and the second one, Aron or Aaron.

Boy, you are making my brain sore from trying to remember stuff about Mann from college days. It just seems if I recall correctly that he was in that circle of artists, of which Mahler and people like Walter Gropius hung out, and I think Mahler was married to a woman named Alma who connected many men since she continually was the inspiration for many artists who would pursue her. Tori Spelling! I kind of enjoy her but feel sorry for her since her mother seems like a meanie. Hey Miss W., I just tried to send you a very very important message and it said your message box was full. Is this a hint or what?

Two case studies that say being "barren" due to physical gynecological conditions has been an impediement to marriage vis a vis canon law: If the Black Dahlia had wanted to marry, she would not have been allowed to, if autopsy speculations are true since she supposedly suffered from Infantile Genitalia Syndrome, which made any relations with men impossible in terms of pregnancy, which would have left her barren. That also leaves out any other women with the same medical abnormality. Another example would be that of "women" who are born with AIS [Androgen Insufficiency Syndrome] and are incapable of relations with a male, yet have been categorized as women from birth. Canon law also eliminated from marriage any man who cannot perform his duties, that would possibly result in progeny. Many such canon laws were promulgated during periods of a total lack of understanding of the human body, which makes them pretty much invalid as sensible directives for marriage as an institution to be revered. Again, Paul if you want to talk dogma it should more rightfully be addressed in the Off Topic area of the TCM board.

Naturally some might say my header is not illustrative enough of my post, but I will assume being that this is a movie fan board, that all who really are movie buffs of course would immediately know I am speaking of the type of film of which "Mondo Cane" was a precursor. I respect the intelligence of those here enuf to not beat them in the head with explanations. But that aside, I'm wondering if there are fans here of the Mondo style film or the later FOD genre? I only saw the first one, and just like MC it was accused of having some scenes that were staged which might be preferable to chopping off that poor little monkey's head for some type of hors d'oeuvres. Yikes, that was so horrible to watch. I did watch it though because I did not have time to stop the videocassette as I recall. So, post here any thoughts about Mondo films, that you think are pertinent.

Yeah, but the real Kevin Spacey told me he loves my post headers!

The title just comes to me after the idea sprouts in my sick little cranium. This is probably why I am never bored here. Thanks for the analysis, Miss W. and how much do you charge per hour?

"Baby Doll" is my favorite Gothic comedy, since I can't think of any other Gothic comedies mostly. It's hilarious and I can't wait to hear Sister Rose's take on it. Probably got Condemned due to the thumb sucking and the crib setting, but all in all, Carroll Baker was better at preserving her virginity in that role than most female movie characters. Geez, she wouldn't have anything to do with her hubby in a romantic way, and no wonder he was ticked especially when that gigolo played by Eli Wallach came to town. Gotta say if I was forced to marry Karl Malden I might have resisted for many years also, unless I got a lot of new furniture that was not repossessed.

As well she should be, Hibi! I mean who played more nuns in films, yet was also having more affairs with her co-stars than good old Loretta. Just cause she had that swear box on set from which she donated the money to charities, does not make her a saint in good standing.

They know, they always know! Sorry for trying to paraphrase Darren McGavin's lines from ACS, Miss W.! Now you are right, if the person had no idea they were "barren" then of course how could the church stop them. But if someone was aware that they were incapable of producing progeny, then yes, the church would disallow them having the right to marry since it was obvious that the "true" reason for marrying was missing. Now this was old church policy so I'm not saying this is current dogma.

Thanks for an interesting exegesis on your selection process, TB. I think I am less discriminating since I feel I've wasted so much time seeing so many movies, that I now will watch anything of a vintage age just to fill in the gaps.

Hahaha!!! Thanks for keeping my thread alive. Maybe I'm wacky but I just can't imagine Dean Martin liking June Allyson. For that matter, Gloria and Jerry seems weird too. I probably could imagine them more reversed like Dean and Gloria and Jerry and June. Thanks for listening, I feel like I'm talking to myself!

That's also such a fun film from the Lovecraft vaults. I should have asked how much trouble will people here go to see a film. We once drove 100 miles to see "Liquid Sky" in a theatre.

"Shadow of the Vampire" is such a good film!

Yes, I don't like to telegraph my thoughts with auto-suggestive titles.

Oh, wow I was going to post about those films also, Lawrence. And "West of Zanzibar" is just classic Tod Browning off the wall bizarro world stuff that no horror fan should miss!

I would chastize you for not "Manning up" except for that I buy books all the time and then don't get around to reading them. And I read all the Mann stuff when I was in college, and to tell the truth do not remember if Mahler is mentioned at all. I kind of think not, just that reviewers or professors would mention always roman a clef tendencies in books and they thought it was referencing Mahler due to his connection to Mann. To this day, my copy of the famed book "Godel, Escher, Bach" is still only read up to the last chapter and I've owned it for years. Very dense reading! As to the spelling of "gray" or "grey" for some odd reason I always like using the "e" version. I wonder if that is because I did have relatives who moved to Calgary. Just curious Miss Wonderly, which way do Canadians spell "judgment" or "judgement". In the US, the one without the first "e" is correct but it always looks so strange to me.

Wow, so interesting Miss W.! I knew about the Mahler thing but not about the music about Tadzio. That is fascinating and thanks for sharing your knowledge! I only know the stuff about "Grey Gardens" not "Gray Gardens". I can't totally speculate, but I think you would really like the book that you have on your shelf, "unread, unhonored and unsung"! Obviously I've ripped that off as usual, but if you like other books by Mann like "The Magic Mountain" you will like DIV I bet.

Now I've heard politics makes strange bedfellows but I was not as aware of this implication in the entertainment field. That was before I read recently the book "Dean and Me" by Jerry Lewis and there was a story about Dean being involved with June Allyson and Jerry with her friend from MGM, Gloria DeHaven. All four were married at the time in the early fifties and frankly I would never have put any of those people together in my mind as being attracted to each other. Poor old Dick Powell, no wonder he got jealous of June! So do you know of any other strange couplings and if so, please add them on here.

Very rational thinking, N&N! How's Asta and thanks for answering.

How do you choose the movies you go see or rent or buy? Do you follow the dictates of others who have set themselves up as critics, or base your selections on friends and their opinions, or just use your own judgment. I remember once wanting to rent the movie "Short Cuts" and a person I knew said to me, "Oh, you wouldn't want to see that I heard it is very dark and depressing" and I said "That's exactly why I want to see it." Now if one knows nothing about a topic, I can see following the crowd to begin with, but once one has their sea legs I would think they pick and choose mostly based on their own intelligence and criteria. Nothing wrong with of course, reading about a new film from a review but the final say in whether it is worthy of my time, is up to me. But you may be different. What's your style? I think I know too many movies from the past, and rarely am confronted with a film that I would not have some knowledge of, but it is fun to occasionally go against the grain and give something a shot that you might normally find not up to par. As example I will use "Office Space" and "The Blair Witch" film that I would have ignored but took a chance and enjoyed both.

Oh, that's sad. She was fab in so many movies, all her early work and of course Kubrick's CO, but my personal favorite was her performance in "Vampire Circus". An exceptional horror movie and not widely known. RIP!

Ooooh, I like it! The number of boxes of such stuff lines my garage. I love movie memorabilia. One of my most treasured items is an Odorama card from the original screening of "Polyester" by John Waters. It is so much more fun to have awful smells than the nice ones which were projected into theaters in the Mike Todd Junior Smell-O-Vision days. Wasn't that film called a "Scent of Mystery" maybe? Great idea, Spence!

It was so great to see him as the rather abusive father of Perry Smith [Robert Blake] in "In Cold Blood". He can be quite chilling in such roles to be sure. Thanks, TB!

Here, I'll make it easy. You need to only go to my threads, Down.