CaveGirl
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It may be a sign of my lowering expectations & you don't mention the approx age of the woman you mentioned, but I'd be moderately impressed that a non-movie buff knew as much as that about a movie made before the 70's that isn't one of the perennials that your average Joe can misquote bits from (Play it again, Sam)....
Marty is a lovely, moving film & IMO Borgnine's best role/performance, but different strokes for different folks - maybe she'd seen it too young to appreciate properly, or perhaps it reminded her of some regret in her own life?
You're such a nice person, Limey to think of all these explanations. My take was that this 62-year old woman was just a pain in the you know what, and was trying to believe that she was above watching a film about a "butcher".
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Anyone who doesn't want to watch movies made by people who are dead, *because they are dead*, I don't need to know any better.
I had a real problem with such a person on another site. Of course, TCM is a completely different type of site. This other site had someone always asking why we were not talking about someone "with a pulse."
People who show blank stares at me when I say things like "I watch award shows for the lifetime achievement awards and memorial tributes only."
People who think it is okay to talk on their cell phone in the movie theatre while a movie is showing.
Not watch movies with people who are dead? Yikes, that would mean I would be watching no films at all, GPF!
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Thanks for summing up 1946 and ending with Sam Goldwyn, TB!
I wonder if it was the script for TBYOOL that caused him to say supposedly:
"I read part of it all the way through."
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does this special tcm theatre engagement mean that it won't be on ABC easter time?
tcm doan even show it so why?
DeMille made it to make money so let's not scoff at following the leader, Nip! Religious epics showing lots of sinning and repenting are always big ticket items.
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One of the first movies I ever saw about an impostor was "I Was Monty's Double" starring Clifton James as British Field Marshal Montgomery during WWII.
It was a great story and was based on a true one about an actor [Clifton again!] who had been noticed by the British military due to his similarity to Montgomery. In a quest to confuse the Nazis as to where Montgomery might next be planning an attack they asked for his help in impersonating Montgomery.Supposedly it was David Niven who found James and enlisted him to be a part of the subterfuge. While James was portraying Monty, he received full general's pay for each day of work.
This great film may have started my attraction to others about frauds, fakes of impostors and I like best ones based on true stories.
Do you have any favorites in this genre?
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Wait a second, when I say it that way it sounds to me like "phlegm noir"
Am i phoneticizing wrong?
With some pseudo-noirish hosts, it is mostly "phlegm" that is spewed forth, Lorna.
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I once read that Roddy MacDowall said that if he met someone who did not like Irene Dunne, then he wanted nothing to do with them.
I too have such a peculiarity.
I refuse to have much to do with anyone who does not like the film "Marty".
I watched it for perhaps the twentieth time the other nite on TCM. Besides being so heartwarming it is always touching but also has classic bits that still make me laugh. Life can be like that, both sad and hilarious and I think that Paddy Chayefsky was able to portray that in the film. The parts between Esther Minciotti as Mrs. Piletti and the lady who plays Aunt Catherine are unbelievably realistic and yet also humorous, like when they discuss family matters and all Aunt Catherine can do is tell who died recently.
The catchphrases between Borgnine and Joe Mantell like "I don't know, what do you want to do" are as memorable as DeNiro's "Are you looking at me". And the bits where the guys talk about Mickey Spillane ["He sure can write!"] are such a dig, plus the bit in the bar where the women talk about the lady, married to the skinny little man, who was told by her doctor not to have any more children, are hilariously real. My favorite part of course is when the guys talk about how a man should marry a woman twenty years their junior, till they realize she would have to be one-year old at the nuptials.
I met a woman recently who asked me what I was going to do that night. We only wanted to go home, pick up a pizza and watch "Marty". She said "Who would want to watch that movie? Isn't it about that butcher?"
My mother said once that anyone who didn't like the film "Marty" was not worth having anything to do with. So from now on, the above person is persona non grata in my world.
That's my bottom line. Either you appreciate "Marty" and are worthwhile knowing or you are not. I will go to my dying day with that exacting standard in place.
What criteria do you use to separate the wheat from the chaff?
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Yes yes. Both titles, Western noirs.
Irrelevant aside: Sometimes for no reason other than to annoy me, my husband pronounces it "Fil-em Nooh-wahr". He claims he heard some host on TCM say it that way, and now he never says it the proper way.
Uh, I think we both know who we can blame for that poor pronunciation from someone at TCM, Miss Wonderly.
Let's recall that not everyone on TCM is a Film Noir expert or multi-lingual.
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My #1 is THE CAT CREEPS (1930). Others include THE ROAD TO MANDALAY (1926); THE GORILLA (1927); THE HAUNTED HOUSE (1928); VAMPING VENUS (1928); THE TERROR (1928); STARK MAD (1929); HOUSE OF HORROR (1929); THE GORILLA (1930); KISMET (1930); THE MONKEY'S PAW (1933).
Thank you for honoring my post with your royal presence, Your Highness!
Oh boy, that tale "The Monkey's Paw" has been done to death on the big and small screen, but I would still dig seeing the 1933 version. I've seen so many takes on it that one more would still not be enough. Seems like there was a version done with Richard Greene even as maybe part of one of those Hammer or Amicus anthology films. Sorry I'm too lazy to look it up on Imdb now. Thanks for the great list of wants!
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Dr. Kimble
I can see a resemblance
Re Alan Arkin:
He was a member of The Tarriers folk group, who had a huge hit with "The Banana Boat Song"
Supposedly, the liner notes for the first Tarriers album contain this sentence: "Alan Arkin actually considered becoming an actor before finding his true calling as a folk singer."
I think it was actually TCM which showed "Calypso Heat Wave" from 1957, which has a song performed by the Tarriers. It was such fun to see Arkin singing. But I still thought it was Harpo without his wig!
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"Bigger Than Life" is an incredible film. It is about the dangers of cortisone, and how it was first used diagnostically but was difficult to prescribe in proper dosages.
James Mason puts in a bravura performance as a mild mannered teacher who is prescribed the medicine but in such excessive dosages that he turns into a megalomaniac. As usual being that it is Mason his acting is beyond the pale, and the film is rivetting.
A little known film but one which is extremely rewarding to view. Thanks for highlighting it, TB.
I so appreciate your taking the time to give these daily previews of films to come!
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I have a funny story about "Fallen Angel". I'd always wanted to see it, had heard about it for years but it didn't seem to be available anywhere. (This was before TCM was aired in Canada.) So I rented it from some video rental place. At least, I thought I'd rented it - the Dana Andrews, Linda Darnell film directed by Otto Preminger. But this was back in the days when a video (yup, videotape) would often be rented out in an anonymous box, no details printed on it. So, I get it home, put it on, and it turns out to be some yucky child porn movie ! Well, not child porn (that would have made me throw up), more a movie about child porn. I turned it off almost as soon as the opening credits were done and I realized what it was.
Didn't get to see the real "Fallen Angel" til I viewed it on TCM, a few years back.
Actually, this happened to me twice. Another time, I wanted to see "Kiss Me Deadly". This was before the "Fallen Angel" incident. Again, the video cover was blank, there was just the title on its spine. So I set it up, fondly believing I was finally going to get to see this famous, late-cycle noir, only to discover it was a porn movie by the same name ! (thank god, no child theme in this one, at least.)
I actually did watch that one - it was less than an hour, as I recall, and it wasn't the kind of nasty hard core stuff I've heard pornography is now. It was an English production (if you can dignify a movie like that as a "production"), and it was kind of funny, in a way. And the main guy in it was supposed to be a private eye detective ! It was obviously making a pathetic allusion to the real "Kiss Me Deadly".
Sorry, I did not mean to derail this great thread by talking about porn movies. I just thought those two stories were kind of funny.
Sure, Miss Wonderly.
C'mon, and you also thought "Goldilocks Meets Three Bare Men" would be an animated Disney movie.
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So, we're talking about stars so great they could adorn the Milky Way?
(ok, ok, nobody who lives outside of Ontario is going to get that. There's a dairy company here called "Parmalat". They make that 3 bag milk thing. )
Miss Wonderly, I've been to Parma Heights but have not visited any dairies, though I did see Elsie the Cow once in person.
What in tarnation is a "3 bag milk thing" do I dare ask?
Is this a Canadian staple or something unseemly?
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I fail to how someone that earned the nickname 'Queenie' within her social circle fits the definition of parvenu.
Since one could say her parents were from the wrong side of the tracks Oberon clearly rose way above their social circle.
Though I always usually totally agree with you, James I am going to have to disagree this time.
"Queenie" as a moniker sounds more like a chorine who has risen to top billing in her profession and challenging Tempest Storm for top billing, and was meant as a bit of a jocular dig, plus it was rumored in many Hollywood circles that Merle was hiding something in her past as an untouchable, hence she was not so accepted in the lofty circles of that world.
We can agree to disagree this time hopefully?
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Parvenu: One who has suddenly risen above his/her social class but has not gained acceptance within that higher social class.
So: George Raft?
Definitively, Fedya!
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Well, she does it on the front porch, but in a sort of furtive, secretive way. She wasn't prancing around, she was sitting on the steps, near a flowering plant or something, almost hiding the cigarette in her hand. And - if I'd given it any thought at all, which up til now I hadn't - I'd say she felt the neighbours were not around, looking at her, while she did it.
Sometimes I feel kind of silly, some of the things we discuss here on these boards that don't seem worth the attention we give them.
"Silly", Miss Wonderly?
And by the way so glad to see you back!
As if trying to figure out why Millie is acting out in "Picnic" is not an earth shattering issue.
I think the real reason this is important is that movie fans are kept off the streets where they can do damage to society, and instead kept busy discussing such things. You just know that this type of avocation is important for society and I thank you for being around to discuss aspects of Jane Austen novels and such with all of us here at TCM's message board.
My personal belief about Millie and the Inge story is that Susan Strasberg, having been around Marilyn Monroe sleeping over in the nude in Susan's room so often, at the Lee Strasberg mansion, and seeing her drinking, popping pills and calling up on her teenage phone many members of the Rat Pack and their political friends, made Susan want to show a more seedy side of life in her characterization of the seemingly boring and little bookish Millie but the studio restricted that to her choking on coffin nails occasionally in the yard.
She was jealous of Kim just like she was jealous of Marilyn, and incorporated this feeling into her part as Millie.
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Can you guess the ones I'll be spotlighting?
In the week ahead:
Saturday February 27th: Stylish 30s costars.
Sunday February 28th: Mr. & Mrs. Miniver.
Monday February 29th: Actress who was bewitched in 1945.
Tuesday March 1st: RKO's bad boy of noir.
Wednesday March 2nd: Late 50s teen actress at Fox.
Thursday March 3rd: Warner Brothers' canine star.
Friday March 4th: A fire in old Chicago couldn't keep this couple apart.
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I'll go with Groucho and Maureen O'Sullivan for Saturday, Greer and Walt for Sunday, Phyliss Thaxter for Monday, Mitchum for Tuesday, Mona Freeman for Wednesday, Rin Tin Tin for Thursday and and Alice Faye and Gable for Friday.Now some people find Nick and Nora more attractive than Groucho and Maureen, but I think they are misguided!-
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Story-wise, an incredible film. Very poignant. Such material cannot be dated as it reveals the human condition - past, present and furure. Ironically, one of 'our' great-grandchildren may actually be placed in Mr. Newton's position in the not too distant future.I wish TCM would show this one - between the hours of 7:00 AM - 10:00 PM any day.For that favor, I would trade a programmer a pulsar-fueled can opener, that produces goldnuggets as by-product.
Yes, it is one fine film to be sure. It was one I added to my collection long ago for repeat viewings. Thanks for your acknowledgment and good luck on the gold prospecting, KD!
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Someone was amazed that I wasn't interested in seeing Lady Gaga's tribute to Bowie, since I liked Bowie so much...I told him that, as much interest I have in Bowie, that's how little interest I have in Lady Gaga.
I think I heard that Bowie's son felt the same way.
Uh, you aren't Bowie's son, are you, DGF?
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Comet Tv is showing "The Man Who Fell to Earth" on this coming Sunday [02/28/16] at 12:00 noon.
Bowie is absolutely fabulous in this film if you've not seen it.
They are also showing Mario Bava's "Planet of the Vampires" tomorrow morning on Friday at 10:00am and while Bowie is not in it, if you like Bava you will love it!I've now done my good deed for the day.
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There were a lot of paintings in the movie that aired last night on TCM: Kind Lady.
Oh, yeah there was supposedly an El Greco, a Rembrandt, a Whistler maybe and then the horrible painting by Maurice Evans of Ethel!
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I was either drunk or had a spinning endorphin high. Actually, I think the best Oscar-nominated drunk performance was Eileen Heckart in THE BAD SEED.
Oh wow, Eileen was so good as the drunken Mrs. Daigle in "The Bad Seed". I love to watch her pawing Rhoda when she comes to visit the Penmarks.
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I vote for Merle Oberon.
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"Cute" I suppose CAN be subjective. Eye of the beholder and all that rot. But---
Comparisons confuse me even more in some cases. for instance, I once spent HOURS looking at EVERY button on EVERY garment I owned that HAD buttons, and noticed NONE of them were particularily "cute". So, "Cute as a button" still baffles me!
Sepiatone
That, my dear, is because "Cute as a Button" was a shortened version of Buttonski, namely Hortense Buttonski.
She was a chambermaid who ascended the ranks of royalty, serving Madame DuBarry during her bedroom intrigues and in the process meeting up with sundry males who found her a bit more of a dish than the jaded Madame, hence they started saying how "cute" she was and the term stuck.
"Cute as Buttonski" developed into "Cute as a Button".
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Your comments kind of remind me of a family thing we had going. One thing all my relatives agreed upon on my dad's side was that if you did not get W.C.Fields, then you were not allowed to marry into the family, due to being humor devoid. Thanks as always, TopBilled!