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One thing I read about him is that when he was at Universal, while they gave him decent assignments, he sort of got lost in the publicity shuffle, because they were promoting Audie Murphy, Rock Hudson, Tony Curtis and Jeff Chandler. So he didn't always get the kind of push that the other leads received. I think this carried with him over to television. But he was the #2 box office star in Germany several years in the 60s, so he certainly had fans.
I could be wrong, TB but I think it was maybe Nader who took the fall for some things Rock Hudson did in his personal life, and Nader never recovered the momentum in his career. The story I recall was that "Confidential" magazine had some unsavory scoops about Rock that they were possibly going to publish, and the studio let other less successful male actors be somewhat vilified, and threw them to the wolves with insinuations about their off-screen lives, in stories being printed up in scandal magazines to save Rock from public exposure. I always liked Nader and thought he was the first George Hamilton but without the extreme tan!
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My topic for today is, uh, wait a minute, oh yeah, um memory loss in films. Now I had a movie that I thought totally fit this topic, but now I've forgotten it. It even was a movie made after 1970, and it starred this guy who had tattoos all over his body I think, and if you wanted to understand things you had to run the movie in reverse which was a bit infuriating but as I recall the guy was maybe British and that's about all I remember. I really do enjoy movies about amnesia and short term memory loss and all that stuff so would appreciate if anyone here could direct me to some films with that kind of theme.
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There was a nice little movie, British I think, entitled MILLIONS, from 2004, about two kids finding bags stuffed with money scheduled to be destroyed during the conversion to the Euro. It would fit into your category.
Reminds me of the ending of "Greed" in a way, Lawrence. By the way, I totally dig your new thumbnail pic from Paul Leni's "The Man Who Laughs" of Herr Veidt! You just know that Jack Nicholson stole that look for the Joker.
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Well, if I was digging up a grave, like the one in William Castle's "Mister Sardonicus" and I found that lost lottery ticket in the pocket, I'd probably say "Finders, keepers losers, weepers" since I would assume that the owner is dead [being that he is not breathing] and I would go cash it in immediately to assuage the fright I had from trying to unearth the demised anyway.
I guess I'm not a very nice person, Miss Wonderly.
Great topic by the way!
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Since this thread is the only game in town which doesn't look like the Rosetta Stone, I decided to check it out.
I'm so glad I did since I had no idea that DGF was one of the original Isley Brothers since I thought they had all croaked.
Twist and shout, everybody!
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You're right. But even if Lang or Wilder did make nothing but anti-Nazi films, what would it matter if those films were still enlightening and entertaining (and made money)...? It's like trying to tell an artist what kind of art they can produce.
True, but I also think that being born in a certain milieu does not guarantee that you are the best person in presenting this situation. Often we had directors who come from a total outsider point of view, yet make the most revealing film. For example, John Schlesinger was born in London, attended Oxford yet for my money made a much more incisive portrait of the New York scene of the 60's in "Midnight Cowboy". If he had been born in NY and actually was a hustler would that have made the film better. I doubt it. Too close to the subject matter. Hey, TB maybe we could take this show on the road in a "he said/she said" stage show?
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But can you tell a woman director not to make films from her own gender's perspective? Or tell a gay filmmaker to ignore his orientation and his outlook on life when he's behind the camera?
I get the idea that all filmmakers should be as versatile as possible, because ultimately it keeps them in the movie business longer, but for some-- they have very specific, unique stories to tell and that is why they're here. If there are a lot of them with similar experiences, then yes it may seem repetitive. However, if the films keep making money, Hollywood will keep hiring these folks to make 'em.
Knowing me, yeah I probably would tell her that but of course I see your point, TB.
It's just that, at a certain point no matter what one's personal experience, one might need to branch out. Look at all the emigre directors, like Wilder and so on, who escaped from the clutches of Nazism, yet did not find the need to make every film about that personal experience, as emotionally charged as it must have been for them. I'm saying this not to knock people who use their own experience in an auteur type of way, but to enlarge their potential for greatness by asking them to look outside themselves occasionally.
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Joan Fontaine always looked like someone who would look great in a snood.
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You have quite a lot of ground to cover to check out Mel's complete oeuvre, ya know, Nick and Nora.
He did accomplish quite a lot as the 20th century's only 2,000 year old man.
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What problems have caused you intense pain and suffering due to being a film buff?
Here is one of mine:
Let's say I'm talking to someone, and something happens [like seeing two women get into a giant cat fight and I say "Why that is just like when Mercedes McCambridge as Emma Small tries to put the Oklahoma on Vienna, as played by Joan Crawford in their battles over the Dancing Kid i the movie "Johnny Guitar".
And I get a blank stare.
One would think everyone would have seen that great Nicholas Ray film but apparently not.
So I am left adrift in a sea of obscure movie references with no one around to understand my wonderful analogy.
This is very frustrating.
What suffering and ignominy have you endured due to your own movie predilections?
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Love Nancy Gates and Slocombe so happy birthday to them!
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poor barry morse got no respect. he was even kicked off space: 1999.
Barry Morse!
That's it, thanks, Nip.
Actually if Sam Shepard was still around he would probably be a good choice for the role.
Oops, forgot a "p". That should have been Sam Sheppard.
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I've always gotten a bigger kick out of the manservants in movies. Long live Eric Blore, Arthur Treacher, and Halloway Hobbes.
Men as servants is definitely the way it oughta be, Down.
Go peel me a grape, please!
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Sybil Jason played a scullery maid in "The Little Princess"
Ham, how did you know that Sybil was my fave child actress? SWAK!
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I don't honestly know, Frazier. But my feeling is they will probably invite everyone who posts on the message board forums consistently. I don't see why they'd exclude anyone, if the goal is to collect information that will create more brand loyalty and happy viewers.
As I said, others were invited to participate ahead of me. I think they have batches of invitations they are doing. I was not part of the first batch.
What fun is it to join a club where everyone is invited, TB?
Just kidding, of course.
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If TCM is inviting only certain posters, this is another public relations blunder.
If you were excluded, Down maybe you and I can start our own club called the "Inner Sanctum"?
Much appreciation, TB for a very explanatory post about the IC!
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After doing some searching, I found some pics of Joan and Addams at social events. Apparently they dated in the 1960s. How serious I don't know....
They dated quite seriously, Hibi. There is a lot about it in the biography written about Charles Addams back a few years ago. Even though she did not resemble his ideal woman [who looked a lot like Morticia] Joan apparently was interested in marrying him. But his incessant desire to stay single foiled that and all his friends basically hated Joan and thought she was obnoxious.
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The Sundance film festival is in full swing at the moment, and an article I just read talked about a standout film screened there. It's the story of the Nat Turner slave rebellion, and is the work of young African-American writer, director, and star Nate Parker. The film received multiple standing ovations, and was quickly purchased by Fox Searchlight in the biggest acquisition of the festival. The word out of the screening is that it is already the front runner for the next Oscars.
What do you think? The choice of title is sure to be inflammatory to some. And after the racial diversity controversy of this year's Oscar season, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that even though this film might be the best one ever made, if I were a black film maker I think I would try to make films not about the black experience. I think it is limiting and perhaps perpetuates the exclusion of such from nominations as it gets old.
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In the film industry, sometimes, for producers, "work with" is a euphemism for something else. I would certainly like to work with Sophia Loren.
Down, are you a fan of the Hank Ballard and the Midnighters' song, "Work With Me, Annie"?
Your name is not really Henry is it? If so I think Etta James immortalized you in her version.
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Thanks for the reminders, TB!
I look forward to seeing "Nightmare Alley" again as it taught me not to drink wood alcohol as I remember.
Also love Maisie and any film with Ricardo Cortez.
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Hey, Prince!
I read your book, that Machiavelli helped write about your exploits.
Glad to hear you have time to watch films while ruling.
C'mon, TCM does have a few that anyone would enjoy...right?
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Actually CG, wouldn't your above comment I took the liberty to place in bold letters have been best and more exactly stated thus:
"...which is crazy since they believe one does not exist." ?
And thus the very reason WE Agnostics "think" it is "crazy" to assume either the existence of such an entity or the absence of one.
(...and btw, although the following atheist movie character is played as somewhat of an off-putting cynic, I always thought Gene Kelly's performance as E.K. Hornbeck in INHERIT THE WIND was fairly and evenhandedly presented)
You now are hired [at zero salary] to edit all my remarks and make them palatable to the masses, Dargo.
Anything to get a following here among the cognescenti and vox populi.
You call me Johnson, and I will call you Boswell!
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...and in the best Mid-Atlantic accent I can muster here...
My dear, this was indeed praise of the highest order.
(...although I also have the distinct feeling that few if any around here would share your opinion in this matter...and rightfully so, of course)
I think you underestimate your appeal, Dargo!
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Oh, no, the deaths have started again.
I was just thinking of digging out my "Celine and Julie Go Boating" dvd last night, due to reading the listing in that 1,001 movie book.
Rivette made some very entertaining films to be sure. Thanks for the update, Lawrence.
The Crux of the AA Controversy
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Prejudice is a word, which actually means a few differing things, but is currently mostly only used in one of the semblances, meaning to have an opinion "opposed" to a person or thing which is not based on reasonable knowledge. What people forget is that though one can prejudge something to be not up to par, but they can also prejudge something to be of more value than it is worth.
To give an example, I've known Catholics who cannot believe any priest ever molested anyone due to his wearing of the vestments that they have been taught to respect. They prejudge all clergy as being "good" people and innocent of any wrongdoing.
So too we find people who think everything their kids do is wonderful, while the rest of the world is considerably less impressed.
Which is why I decided to go out on a limb and question the validity of the claims by JPS at the risk of being called a porcine racist. My point is, sure it is fine to produce movies that express inner turmoil, the experiences you grew up with and your own inner core of identity but at a certain point, most great film makers go outside themselves and find other avenues to explore and share in films. Now I'm not saying one has to do this, but if one is trying to make sure to win awards perhaps one needs to tell a few other stories than just ones that relate to one's own personal experiences. As I said, Billy Wilder was a good example of creating films for all people to enjoy, which probably translates to getting awards...if getting awards is all one wants to do. There certainly are a bunch of great artists in the film world who never received awards and lived to tell of it with no serious issues.
Singularity of thought is good for one trying to work on a 3,000 page illustrated manuscript, but if one wants the approbation of others in faux gold statuette form then one should try to branch out and produce works that are more inclusive instead of being so exclusive.
Though it is said that everyone has one good story in their repetoire that they can exploit [and some people do it over and over but just change the character names] I think someone like Truman Capote who was able to write both "Breakfast at Tiffany's" AND "In Cold Blood" personifies what it means to really be an artist deserving of praise. If all he ever wrote was the same stuff about his childhood down south, over and over, frankly I would not award him even a gold star. This was my point about some in the JPS camp who are complaining about not being given honors.
Think like Maude in "Harold and Maude". Go out, try things outside yourself, lose maybe, but experience life beyond the boundaries of what you have known previously. And perhaps in doing so, you may create a film which does win an award or at least showcases you have talents outside the box you have created for yourself.