CaveGirl

I so concur, SF. I was almost as thrilled about BM being on, as I am about TCM scheduling Bunuel's "Diary of a Chambermaid" for Sunday, July 6th at 4:00am. The close-ups on the feet, are almost as bizarre as in his film, "El'. "Black Moon" also has Joe Dallesandro who I only know from oddball roles in Andy Warhol films, so this should be entertaining...

I so agree! In protest, I shall ban TCM from my abode for a 24-hour period and just watch my complete SCTV dvd boxed set. I also shall drink only Canada Dry all day and eat Canadian Bacon and tomato and lettuce sandwiches. Uh, maybe might have some Canadian Club also!

Forget about movies, I am finding it much more interesting to follow the fascinating insinuations in this thread about some perhaps former member nicknamed "She Who Must Not Be Named". I only know of "She Who Must Be Obeyed" from that Ursula A. film, and am so insanely curious as to exactly who is being discussed here by Laffite, Swithin and others. This mystery is almost as exciting to me, as the Rex Ingram one which involved his wife, Alice Terry and a whole cast of accomplices in North Africa or the man who used to post on this site, who liked to pretend he was the heir to the Doheny estate and I believe his name was Larry. Unfortunately for him, casting himself as the scion of a daughter of the family who had failed to give birth or even adopt ever, was his downfall. It was just like an old "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" episode in retribution when he was outed. Thanks to those here who have whetted my interest in the mystery of SWMNBN. Salinger could not have written a better story. Maybe Fitzgerald could have though since he did write that "Myra Meets the Family" one, I think...

Dear Rewrite, I live in Indiana...we just got the news about Salinger croaking. LD, yes...Esme would be a good idea for a film, maybe before TCITR. And Laffite, I just love your Member Portrait of "Lazy Legs". Who painted that for the film...maybe John Decker?

I think you are dead on, Miss W.! Natch I forgot how much Holden despised mass cultural things and he would be disgusted to be portrayed in such. Golly gee, if I could have cast it way back I would have chosen that cherub-faced Brandon DeWilde as seeing him spit and be all disgusting would have been so enjoyable. So sad that he got killed at such an early age... Thanks for your thoughts and say "hi" to The Fat Man!

Apropos of the film, "Wrestling Women vs. the Aztec Mummy"...Herr Herzog was often quoted as saying something like "film is not the art of scholars but that of illiterates". Being that many great and insightful films were written, directed or created by people like Keaton and Chaplin or even Polanski who had little formal education and did not need film school to know how to make an incredible work of art, this seems like a feasible presumption from Herzog. And if so, why then would there be a need for a film scholar or film critic, to explain said processes for others in the general populace or elevated strata even, Herzog seemed to believe. Now I'm not saying education is a deterrent to creation of worth, but it may not be a necessity either. I do recall Truman Capote once stating though that he felt intellectuality was a stumbling block to the artistic process for actors, so one wonders how he would feel about the Herzog dictum in general. I'm conflicted. There are some film critics I can appreciate but on the obverse side it does seem a bit like the newscasters on tv who will spend hours explaining a president's address right after it is given, as if the viewing audience is too dense to understand anything. One of my favorite reviews of a film, is the one for Bresson's "AHB" which stated something pithy like that it was the world in an hour and a half, which is brilliant I feel. Of course this was from Jean-Luc Godard who had some interesting takes on his own profession also. What's your take?

It's Always "Fair" Weather for showing that film, apparently! You make me laugh. Due to watching too many movies in my ill-begotten life, the old chestnuts being shown over and over again, occasionally distress me also. But then I try to be magnanimous and remember that there was a first time I saw films like "Casablanca" and "MFL" and to go read a book for that two hour period and give the tv a rest and let those who have not ever seen such a classic get the chance. I do feel though that being a curmudgeon and whiner and complainer, is fitting though as a movie fan, since there are so many characters in films like that. One of my favorite downer type actors is Oscar Levant, who I believe once said he knew Doris Day "before she was a virgin" so I am sure he would approve of anyone showing distaste for the millionth showing of "MFL" or something like "The Sound of Music". An interesting question for film buffs would be...what film in all history has been played on tv the most times.

Brilliant point, Vautrin! And I too was wondering a bit while watching, just what Robeson thought about this pic and his attire, but Osborne did clear it up. Gotta love those Brits, even when they get their comeuppance. I mean, how can I hate any culture which produced George Sanders and Ronald Colman. Thanks for a great response!

For me, in film comedies it would be "Some Like It Hot". That Joe E. Brown dialogue with Lemmon is hilarious. In serious dramas, I'll go with the staircase scene with Swanson in "Sunset Boulevard". In foreign films, anything by Ophuls has a fitting ending, like in "The Earrings of Madame D".

I have to say I never liked her due to her dumping that sweet Gary Lockwood. And besides that, I hate people like her mother who can't spell. She was nice as R.J. Wagner's wife on tv though I guess but I still think she looked better with the natural dark brown hair instead of the strawberry blonde, Ann-Margret color. Call me shallow, but that's the way I see it.

Now that good old J.D. has croaked...I mean, died, maybe his estate will allow "TCITR" to be filmed. And if so, who should play Holden? I realize we have some great possibilities here, right at the TCM site but who would YOU choose? Maybe they will do something on the Glass family also, and other of his works. I think he was wise to not marry Oona, as she would have dumped him for Chaplin eventually anyway doncha think?

I think I've seen the "AEOST" short at least fifteen times... Obviously I have been spending too much time watching TCM the last few years. I do like to watch the part with David Hemmings, and keep wondering where Gayle Hunnicutt was.

Saul Bass did an amazing job, for sure on that film! Rock, or Roy as I like to call him, was actually not wooden in "Seconds" and I only watched a bit of it last nite, since I own it but I think it was his best performance ever. Although Rock trying to carry Doris Day across a street, and not make it look like they actually had wired her was an amazing performance also! Gee, and he always looked so strong too...what a shocker.

Rosetta Stone Cryptographer Key. Reverse the letters..."tcere" and you will have solved the puzzle...

Why did I get "asterisked" I wonder? Hmmm, did I use the word "****" erroneously???

Any Charles Herbert fans here as his "The Boy and the Pirates" is on tonight at 10:00pm. I almost like him as much as kid actor Michael Burns, also famous for his iconic tv appearance on "Dragnet' as The Blue Boy. Now George "Foghorn" Winslow was also great, so I am perplexed as which would be first in my child actor pantheon. I was recently in the Pantheon in Italy and wanted to **** a spot there to commemmorate such, but decided instead to do some spray paint graffiti to Machiavelli instead. Viva, Charles and I wonder what he is doing today?

Of course it's "essential", just as "a rose is a rose is a rose" is essential. Doesn't everyone love anything connected with Gertrude Stein and need it in their life??? Really now...why bother people with such minutae!

What I think about "TWM" is that I cherish my copy of the full film that was encased in a beautiful wood box with faux wood-burnt title engendered on its surface and that male virgins should be careful when they go looking for trouble, or little girls named Rowan. Nuff said!

Speaking of "Middle of the Night" I've always been smitten with Lee Philips, so no matter how much of a heel he is, I would have to go for him over Freddie boy or even Gable. He was nice though as Michael Rossi in the original "Peyton Place" and Lana treated him so badly! Ever since I heard that FM was a bit of a lecher off-screen I just can't look at him the same way, woe is me! Hammer films are always entertaining as are those of Amicus. Watching them is like getting to view pre-code comic books, like EC. Shocking, sickening, yet...arresting!

Who watched the NOFMB movie, with Jack actually being a bit of a love interest? It was super as was Ms. Raines last night in a flick I've never seen where she gets facial surgery and then cleans up on the local man market? But the highlight of the week for me had to be "Sanders of the River" with the literally frozen-faced and eerie Leslie Banks and a regional cast which made the natives in "King Kong" look hokey. As soon as I saw the Janus two-headed god at the start I knew I was in for a good time, and this film footage under the direction of Zoltan Korda was almost as interesting as the only extant footage of how to make a truly shrunken head. I'm a sucker for jungle films; anyone else so addicted here?

Brilliant exegesis, Young [yet marvelously sagacious] TCM Fan! Thank you for your thoughts...

The still ostensibly upper echelon character actor"ground" you refer to, TB would appear to be foreground/peripherally focused with eyes still on the stars, whilst I am talking about "deep background" performers who might not even be interacting with the star in a scene yet are still indispensable, with tributes to honorable nominees like Dan Tobin, Rose Hobart, Ottola Nesmith, Minna Gombell, Richard Haydn, Rosalind Ivan, Irving Bacon, Charles Dingle, Jack Lambert, Walter Baldwin, Porter Hall, Sid Tomack, James Flavin, Ethel Griffies, Argentina Brunetti, Fritz Feld and Vera Hruba Ralston. Mayhaps I missed the "threads" about such performers to which you refer? Please elucidate if so. As I indicated, I was not really referring to folks who have been elevated to super character status like a Mary Boland, Roland Young or Thelma Ritter who have mostly received there just do, even if only in TCM mini-tributes between films. I have yet to see a Charles Middleton tribute yet, in scheduling a day of his films, but please inform me if I am remiss. Mayhaps I missed the Ming the Merciless "character actor course" as I would have enjoyed auditing it... I'm ready for any close-ups on the above people, T.B.

Attention TCM Programmers: Less stars more nebula! After considerable discussion with many of erstwhile TCM aficionado friends, I have come to the conclusion that the stars have had more than enough attention for eons and it is time to pay tribute to the background people in films, who supported them. Seriously now, even in real life…the seemingly important people could not get along or continue their importance, without the “little people” like the butcher, the baker, the candlestick-maker or even their plumber, limo driver or Terminix man. Would Cagney have been able to go nuts in prison if Margaret Wycherly was not his domineering mama, or would Marilyn have been able to have a an air conditioner at her disposal without Tom Ewell? And for that matter, would Jimmy Stewart have figured out “how to kiss a girl and not talk her to death”, without Dick Elliott? I think not! So the time has come finally, I feel to pay tribute where tribute is due to the “little people” in films, remembering always though that “there are no small parts, just small actors” according to Stanislavski and you know he was always on the money. So, may I suggest that some special time monthly or intermittently be set aside to honor those who made films seem so real and were the unrecognized glitter behind the stars. A few of the actors that I personally would elevate to star status, are folks like Barbara Nichols, Louis Jean Heydt, Gloria Holden, Oscar Homolka, Norma Varden, Martin Kosleck, Jessie Royce Landis, Jessie Ralph, Clem Bevans, Ian Wolfe, Harry Davenport, Almira Sessions, Whit Bissell, Sybil Jason, Una O’Connor, Dan Tobin and Eily Malyon. If I see their name in the cast, I ALWAYS watch. There are others who did reach some public recognition in a bit more elevated echelon like Roland Young, Mary Boland, Arthur Hunnicutt…and they too should be featured. Would not a whole day of films, like a Rondo Hatton or Bud Cort Film Festival not be fun, and being that every film any of even the most minor of dress extras always featured stars, this would not hurt anyone who bores easily amongst the viewing audience. A favorite I always look for in the background of films is the immortal Bess Flowers, whose most famous role was probably as the woman who congratulates Eve at the Sarah Siddons award finale of “All About Eve”. She has graced so many films as a dowager queen or society lady she should be given a star in Hollywood but I digress. So…who’s with me, and if no one is I shall go to my girl cave and just watch my thousands of old videotapes and dvd’s and separate myself from society and the blame will be laid on all of you. If you do like this idea, please vote for your particular dress extras, chorines, cab drivers, newsboys, gangster molls, and movie brats that you would like to see featured in a TCM festival. Speaking of brats like Baby Leroy, I also think TCM should have a W.C. Fields’ Festival and show the more obscure early stuff like “International House” and others. Okay, now I’ll shut up…

Loved watching LT all night!

Frankly, I don't care where Kay had a contract or anything else. I don't even care if she might not have been the greatest actress or had sort of low eyebrows. That lady had style and you just know that unlike many of the female stars today that Kay could have dressed herself for each film and would have known exactly what to wear and how to put it together to look incredible. She brought style, taste and panache to each part and was the one of the best at playing other women or classy dames. Bravo, Kay! One of the films TCM played the other day, had more "r"s in it than any Kay film I've ever seen but I actually rather love her little lisp...