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  1. I was watching "The Princess Bride" last night on some channel, and was reminded of my belief that Christopher Guest, was channeling actor Henry Daniell, in his portrayal of Count Rugen in those whispery vocal inflections and the stern, emotionless demeanor. I could be wrong but sometimes I feel that actors will do a bit of a pastiche of an earlier actor's style, as a tribute to their artistry that ostensibly they admire. I'd like to think that this was what motivated Guest, and was the impetus for this characterization. Hence, one person's original turn mayhaps deserves another in a sort of honoring way.

    One more nod to an earlier movie in "TPB" for me, is at the ending, where the Princess jumps and is seen falling ever so poetically in slow motion, as her voluminous skirt swirls about her. This reminded me totally of a similar shot in Jean Cocteau's "La Belle et La Bete" where Josette Day as Beauty seemingly floats down to earth in garments befitting a princess.

    If you have references in films which you feel have antecedents that are purposely or unwittingly being imitated, please share!

  2. 22 hours ago, skimpole said:

    Here are the movies from theyshootpictures.com top 500 that have never been on TCM: 

    #39  Blade Runner (1982, Scott)

    #68  Shoah (1985, Lanzmann)

    #61  Mulholland Drive (2001. Lynch)

    #94  The Shining (1980, Kubrick)

    #100  Satantango (1994, Tarr)

    #102  Once Upon a Time in America (1984, Leone)

    #107  The Mother and the W*or* (1973, Eustache)

    #116  Star Wars (1977, Lucas)

    #118  E.T.  the Extra-Terrestrial (1982, Spielberg)

    #123  L'Age D'Or (1930, Bunuel)

    #124  Don't Look Now (1973, Roeg)

    #131  Yi Yi (2000, Yang)

    #149  Histoire(s) du Cinema (1998, Godard)

    #151  The Gospel According to Saint Matthew (1964, Pasolini)

    #156  Come and See (1985, Klimov)

    #159  L'Argent (1983, Bresson)

    #161  The Passenger (1975, Antonioni)

    #168  Mouchette (1967, Bresson)

    #169  Dekalog (1989, Kieslowski)

    #178 Celine and Julie Go Boating (1974, Rivette)

    #179 The Travelling Players (1975, Angelopoulos)

    #182  Spring in a Small Town (1948, Fei)

    #192  The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974, Hooper)

    #194  Fargo (1995, Coen)

    #196  The Thin Red Line (1998, Malick)

    #201  Cache (2005, Haneke)

    #202  Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975, Pasolini)

    #204  Le Samourai (1967, Melville)

    #208  A City of Sadness (1989, Hou)

    #209  Schindler's List (1993, Spielberg)

    #211  Breaking the Waves (1996, Von Trier)

    #217  Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981, Spielberg)

    #218  Two or Three Things I Know About Her (1967, Godard)

    #220  Wavelength (1967, Snow)

    #223  The Big Lebowski (1998, Coen)

    #231  The Colour of Pomegranates (1968, Parajanov)

    #232  Black God, White Devil (1964, Rocha)

    #236  El Verdugo/The Executioner (1963, Garcia Berlanga)

    #238  Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004, Gondry)

    #240  The Tree of Life (2011, Malick)

    #246  Magnolia (1999, Anderson)

    #247  The Thin Blue Line (1988, Morris)

    #251  Tropical Malady (2004, Weerasethakul)

    #252  Three Colours:  Red (1994, Kieslowski)

    #253  Floating Clouds (1955, Naruse)

    #258  Distant Voices, Still Lives (1988, Davies)

    #273  Love Streams (1984, Cassavetes)

    #274  Memories of Underdevelopment (1968, Gutierrez Alea)

    #282  The Empire Strikes Back (1980, Kershner)

    #283  An Autumn Afternoon (1962, Ozu)

    #284  Kings of the Road (1976, Wenders)

    #286  The Matrix (1999, Wachowski)

    #287  Underground (1995, Kusturica)

    #292  All About My Mother (1999, Almodovar)

    #295  Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980, Fassbinder)

    #296  The Thing (1982, Carpenter)

    #309  Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937, Hand)

    #310  Terra em Transe (1967, Rocha)

    #313  Dawn of the Dead (1978, Romero)

    #314  The Puppetmaster (1993, Hou)

    #315  The Time to Live and the Time to Die (1985, Hou)

    #321  Listen to Britain (1942, Jennings)

    #325  Eyes Wide Shut (1999, Kubrick)

    #328  The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (1976, Cassavetes)

    #330  City of God (2002, Meirelles)

    #332  In the Realm of the Senses (1976, Oshima)

    #333  The Crime of Monsieur Lange (1936, Renoir)

    #335  El (1952, Bunuel)

    #337  The Green Ray (1986, Rohmer)

    #339  Lost Highway (1997, Lynch)

    #340  October (1927, Eisenstein)

    #343  Happy Together (1997, Wong)

    #344  Werckmeister Harmonies (2000, Tarr)

    #348  Through the Olive Trees (1994, Kiarostami)

    #353  Last Tango in Paris (1972, Bertolucci)

    #354  Landscape in the Mist (1988, Angelopoulos)

    #355  In a Year with 13 Moons (1978, Fassbinder)

    #360  Tie Xi Qu:  West of the Tracks (2003, Wang)

    #362  Quince Tree of the Sun (1992, Erice)

    #363  Teorema (1968, Pasolini)

    #366  The Tenant (1976, Polanski)

    #378  The Celebration (1998, Vinterberg)

    #380  If.. (1968, Anderson)

    #381  Dogville (2003, von Trier)

    #384  Brokeback Mountain (2005, Lee)

    #387  The Shawshank Redemption (1994, Darabont)

    #389  Army of Shadows (1969, Melville)

    #392  1900 (1976, Bertolucci)

    #396  Fight Club (1999, Fincher)

    #397  The Cloud-Capped Star (1960, Ghatak)

    #398  Carrie (1976 De Palma)

    #399  Wall-E (2008, Stanton)

    #403  Raise the Red Lantern (1991, Zhang)

    #404  Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979, Jones)

    #406  Out 1:  Noli me Tangere (1971, Rivette)

    #407  Chelsea Girls (1966, Warhol)

    #413  The Dead (1987, Huston)

    #414  Dead Ringers (1988, Cronenberg)

    #417  The White Ribbon (2009, Haneke)

    #418  A Moment of Innocence (1996, Makhmalbaf)

    #419  Barren Lives (1963, dos Santos)

    #427  Land Without Bread (1932, Bunuel)

    #428  A nos amours (1983, Pialat)

    #429  Opening Night (1977, Cassavetes)

    #430  Talk to Her (2002, Almodovar)

    #431  Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (2010, Weerasethakul)

    #434  The Hour of the Furnaces (1968, Getino, Solanges)

    #435  The Gleaners and I (2000, Varda)

    #437  The Sound of Music (1965, Wise)

    #441  Yellow Earth (1984, Chen)

    #442  Punch-Drunk Love (2002, Anderson)

    #447  The Turin Horse (2011, Tarr)

    #450  Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000 Lee)

    #452  The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005, Puiu)

    #454  Platform (2000, Jia)

    #456  Toy Story (1995, Lasseter)

    #457  Halloween (1978, Carpenter)

    #461  Muriel (1963, Resnais)

    #465  The Road Warrior (1981, Miller)

    #466  Elephant (2003, Van Sant)

    #467  Boogie Nights (1997, Anderson)

    #470  The Wind Will Carry Us  (1999, Kiarostami)

    #471  Fantasia (1940, Various Directors)

    #474  Oldboy (2003, Park)

    #478  Safe (1995, Haynes)

    #479  Short Cuts (1993, Altman)

    #482  All That Jazz (1979, Fosse)

    #483  La Region centrale, (1971, Snow)

    #485  Naked (1993, Leigh)

    #486  Les Vampires (1915, Feuillade)

    #491  India Song (1975, Duras)

    #493  The Lives of Others (2005, von Donnersmarck)

    #495  Pinocchio (1940, Sharpsteen & Luske)

    #497  Lost in Translation (2003, Coppola)

    #498  The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (1974, Herzog)

    #500  Melancholia (2011, von Trier)

     

    If they ever show "Salo" I will eat my shoes!

    Hopefully I can find some made out of licorice like Chaplin's if this does happen. I would just be amazed...and probably be in an old folks' home by the time this occurs, due to rampant nudity and situations that go way beyond things like even "In the Realm of the Senses", "Clockwork Orange", "I Am Curious...Yellow or Blue" or anything I've ever seen. "Salo" makes "The Devil in Miss Jones*" look like a kindergarten movie by comparison.

    *Do not confuse with "The Devil and Miss Jones" with Jean Arthur.

     

  3. 37 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

    FYI and apropos of NOTHING, Brigette Nielsen (sp?) is currently pregnant at 50something. 

    Please tell me the s-p-e-r-m donor was not Flavor Flav? No child should be subjected to a father wearing a clock the size of the Lusitania on his chest. They could be seriously injured by a flying second hand.

     

  4. On 5/11/2018 at 6:25 AM, TikiSoo said:

    speedracer said: "Unless the cheapest one has someone else's personal handwriting all over the cover (for some reason, people feel inclined to write their name on the front of the movie case in Sharpie)

    A quick wipe of nail polish remover (weak toluene solution) will remove Sharpie without harming the surface.

    You don't know how much I appreciate this information, Tiki Soo! I didn't think anything would remove Sharpie writing. Can't wait to try it and thanks.

  5. 2 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

    Saturday, June 16

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    10 a.m.  Popeye: Axe Me Another (1934).

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    2 a.m.  Your Cheatin’ Heart (1964).  I’m curious to see how George Hamilton does as Hank Williams.  Cringe worthy or okay?

     

    I hope you will be impressed. Though it seems implausible that sophisticated George would do well as Bocephus, he does an admirable job in the role, in my opinion. Can't wait to hear your assessment.

  6. 20 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

    Thank you, except...

    I was so flattered by your response that I went to look up the word "aquiline" and discovered that I did not use it right. It means a hooked or downward curve to the nose. It has nothing to do with the sharpness of one's features.

    but thank you for the flattery, and for inadvertently teaching me the real meaning of the word.

    ps- i used to refer to Alexis Smith, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, as "Skeletor"...I'm trying to be a nicer person though, however so many of you seemed to enjoy my rather low hanging fruit remark about Sydney Greenstreets weight, so I share this because I am an empty shell of a human being. I'll save anyone who is amused a nice, warm seat in Hell right by Me

    That's funny because I have a friend who uses the word "aquiline" all the time, but I too looked it up before I answered your post. The reason I thought it fit was that Alexis had this very sharply defined birdlike bone structure to her nose, which I thought fit your description. Okay, maybe she doesn't have a "beak" like the guy in Ivan the Terrible, but I still think it looks like a raven's nose maybe. She really wasn't so skeletal in her face shape, which was a bit wide, but her actual features like her proboscis, do seem birdlike looking to me. Now we can both think of other words to describe noses like Karl Malden's or Tiny Tim's, Lorna.

    I do think the Retrousse nose, as seen on early Bridget Nielsen, is one of the nicest. I say "early" since the way things are, she may have had surgery by now and look like Jennifer Grey by now, unrecognizable!

  7. Nip, maybe you could just take a long nap all day and get up in the evening to catch Tom Courtenay in "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner", and then wait to see if you can find the part in "The Eyes of Laura Mars' where the cinematographer flips the image, which is a very crucial part of the film.

    If you can't go to sleep early in the day, try imbibing some Ripple with a chaser of Melatonin.
     

    Oops, just realized you wrote "running" about Tom Courtenay. I thought it was an a-n-a-l problem being treated in one of the doctor films, mea culpa.

  8. On 6/12/2018 at 7:54 AM, Sepiatone said:

    One man I hate in the movies is ADOLPHE MENJOU , regardless of the role.  Uh, but I think you mean something else, eh?  :(  Sorry........

    I guess I'd pick (although I LOVED his performance as him in the movie) LEE J. COBB'S Johnny Friendly in ON THE WATERFRONT.  and he also gets a close 2nd for his character in 12 ANGRY MEN.

    Sepiatone

    He might have been hateable in films, but good old Adolph was quite the elegant dresser. He had his own tailor I believe to make him be in sartorial splendor...[sorry, Dargo... I mean, slendour] in all films. Thanks, Sepia!

  9. On 6/12/2018 at 7:34 AM, TikiSoo said:

    Just finished seeing KISS OF DEATH '47 and the logical choice of charactor to hate is the one played by Richard Widmark:

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    But I loved that charactor. He was so mean, so nasty but with that insipid grin you couldn't help being entertained by his bad maniacal attitude.

    OTOH, I just loathed lumbering goof Victor Mature's charactor. He supposedly is a "reformed" criminal, who has had a change of heart while incarcerated due to his two young daughters left orphans after his wife's suicide. The jerk actually marries the girl's babysitter! And then further jeopardizes their lives by becoming an informant!
    (I'm sorry but) Mature is also the uglies guy who ever starred in movies-his big pan has no expression aside from dopey bewilderment and he has the biggest, flattest rear end this side of George Brent-no amount of shoulder padding can help balance this guy's physique.

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    Just look at Widmark's expression-you always know he's trouble-no guessing involved. And his fit bantam size which is often camouflaged by camera angles actually heightens his menace.

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    I love Widmark, it's easy to see why he captured everyone's attention when he hit the movies, even when playing a cold blooded gangster! But I much prefer those who show themselves clearly rather than those who try to hide their feelings with moody reserve or phony attempts at cleverness.

    Tiki Soo, I love Widmark too. Saw that film at about age 12, and remember feeling badly that I was so enjoying seeing that maniacally laughing Widmark, pushing the poor old lady down the stairs in her wheelchair. Was it maybe Mildred Dunnock? I've always liked him to the extent some friend gave me as a present an autographed photo of Widmark which I love. And your expose of Mature's talents is right on. He is a bit of a dud, and while you mention all his male physical shortcomings, do you think his breasts make up for it? Wasn't it Groucho who said about one film ["Samson and Delilah"?] that it was the first time he'd seen a movie where the guy's breasts were bigger than the girl's? Uh, Groucho used another term though for the breasts. Thanks, Tiki Soo!

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  10. 13 minutes ago, jakeem said:

    I guess TCM should cancel its plans for February then.

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    I so agree and I would like to give you an award for coming up with this idea, Jakeem!

    I dub thee, Winner of the Golden Dawn Acknowledgement of Logic award. You will receive a faux gold-leaf statuette of Jackie Mason and a lifetime subscription to "Vanity Fair" magazine.

  11. One of my favorite genres is the Giallo film. This could be due to seeing the Mario Bava film "Blood and Black Lace" at an impressionable age. All the elements are here, of what later constituted the Giallo, with black gloved assassins, baroque settings, archetypal modes of death that were grisly and extremely bloody and difficult to watch. Hot stovetops, and fashion models are not usually mated in a film, but in this one they are, along with bizarre Grand Guignol themes. Now some are put off by Bava's use of panning and zooming, but I can forgive that, as I am so mesmerized by his use of vibrant color and sometimes shocking musical interludes in his films, that all becomes moot.

    The Giallo, named for the yellow color of many cheap paperbacks proliferating in Italy, based on the works of people like Edgar Wallace, and Rex Stout and other American and British writers, prompted the making of movies using the same themes. One could categorize the movement as being receptive to thriller and horror elements, but the Giallo film also encompassed themes of mystery, psychological horror, sexploitation and the supernatural added to a potential slasher modus operandi. Bava may have started the progression of this genre, but others like his compatriot, Dario Argento, added to the field with films like "Four Flies on Grey Velvet" which added interesting musical motifs to the Giallo brand, which were unusual and sometimes a bit shocking, like works by Goblin or even Ennio Morricone. The Giallo heyday was probably from the mid to late 1960's to the late 1970's and some believe its influence can be seen in American slasher films like "Halloween" and it followers.

    Movies like "The Bird with the Crystal Plummage", "Deep Red" and "Cat of Nine Tails" are good examples of Giallo, but other directors besides Bava and Argento produced important films too. It might be said that precursors to this genre would be things like Michael Powell's revolutionary non-success, "Peeping Tom" in 1960 and even Hitch's "Psycho".

    Warning: Occasionally a fine Giallo will have alternate sound with dubbing and original voices. Try both, but you never know for sure which will be preferable though usually I always like the original but still might listen to the dubbed version. I hated the kid's voice in "Deep Red" and it drove me crazy.

    If you have a favorite Giallo title you would like to share, feel free to express yourself here.

  12. 4 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

    Well, truthfully, I never quite "got" the "allure" of Garbo either.  But to each their own( as most know, I'm the same concerning Marlene Dietrich ).  

    Every time I see Garbo in a movie I keep looking for the marionette strings.  But, this IS one of those "I drank that KOOL-ADE" threads, so I'm outa here....

    Sepiatone

    Hey, differences of opinion make the world go round, Sepia and I'm sure you are not alone. Garbo may be an acquired taste. Even my grandma said that some found her not appealing, and thought she was long and lanky and had big feet. All one need do is look at cartoons of the time where they parodied her looks and voice. Her elongated frame though was a perfect base for all those beautiful, fluffy costume drama roles, and I guess everyone has what to some might be a defect that could turn into an asset. Enjoyed reading of your distaste...haha!

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  13. 18 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

    Several months ago we had a thread about Givenchy because he had recently died. We really had a field day with that talking about Audrey Hepburn and Edith Head as well. You might want to take a look at it.

    I think if you look closely enough, you'll find it under General Discussions. It was a lot of fun.

    Thank you so much, Princess; it sounds like fascinating reading and I love Givenchy and all of his designs!

    Good old Edith Head, was a pioneer and one has gotta love her own totally understate style, which became iconic.

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  14. On 6/12/2018 at 1:48 PM, LornaHansonForbes said:

    Alexis Smith had such a HARD face and STRONG features, ulta aquiline almost to the point of being skeletal. I think she probably had a hard time finding herself cast in lead roles were she was supposed to play someone warm and or likable.

    I just love that you used the word "aquiline" to describe Alexis, which is a dead on description, Wordsmith Lorna!

  15. On 6/12/2018 at 10:47 PM, spence said:

    Soory but Leslie was as dull & drippy as dishwater, though she had talent,. especially comedic of which Hearst wouldn't let her display, wanting her in heavy costume dramas instead

    "Dull" guys make the best dates! 

    They never talk about themselves, flex their muscles, talk about old girlfriends, check the mirrors out, or flirt with waitresses and they always pick up the check.

    Wally Cox was an Adonis!

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  16. 1 hour ago, cigarjoe said:

    Of course it's about the MONEY is somebody gonna make a film for free? 

    What makes these low budget films worthwhile, to quote V. Vale & Andrea Juno in Incredibly Strange Films, is the "unfettered creativity. Often the films are eccentric-even extreme-presentations by individuals freely expressing their imaginations..." To quote Picasso "Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness."

    OMG! I own that book too, "Research #10: Incredibly Strange Films". In what other book can you find references from the work of Brakhage all the way to someone like Ted V. Mikels. Did they ever make a second volume to your knowledge, CigarJoe? I also own the companion piece, "Incredibly Strange Music", with both Volume 1 and 2. They are killer also!

    By the way, I have always admired Picasso's assertion about taste derailing creativity.

  17. Usually, unless she is Queenie Leonard who always played demure domestics! As for HHR Elizabeth, apparently you have not seen the latest photos of her yucking it up with Meghan M. Windsor as they've become besties.

    I don't have a thread about jewelry and accessories but maybe we can start one, to aid TCM in coming up with some really noirish accessories like Cordey purses and Hobe jewelry. I'm game...are you?

    By the way, I doubt that the noir boys like Alan K. Rode even know what an Eisenberg pin is, even though they think they know everything about Marie Windsor. So sad...

  18. I love them, particularly when they are unique. They really don't go to the trouble they used to on films, to make the opening sequences entertaining and clever. There are whimsical ones like "I Married a Witch" and cutesy ones like those for Doris Day films, and ones which lay out the entire movie scenario like "Touch of Evil". 

    One that I dig from a very unfamous movie is "Ladies in Retirement" which starred Ida Lupino and I just enjoy the way the camera moves around the space, with the viewer along for the ride. You can watch it on Youtube if you like, by just entering the movie title. 

    What's your favorite opening sequences in movies.

  19. 43 minutes ago, MotherofZeus said:

    I don't like to think of her as a blank canvas upon which anything is projected.  There is a great deal of agency in her acting although it is minimalist to be sure (except for when it isn't).

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    I agree, most of her roles did consist of controlled acting but not a blank state. I was thinking of the ending of "Queen Christina" though where she is pretty much sphinxlike. Funny you picked this wonderful scene with the snow, which I enjoyed watching last night. I kept thinking though how stars would talk about how those fake MGM snowflakes would cut into your skin as they swirled around. But it did look beautiful!

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  20. 1 hour ago, TopBilled said:

    Friday June 15, 2018

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    Plastic surgery on TCM

    ANOTHER FACE with Wallace Ford

    NORA PRENTISS with Ann Sheridan

    THE MAN WHO FOUND HIMSELF with Joan Fontaine

    A WOMAN'S FACE with Joan Crawford

    THE DOUBLE MAN with Yul Brynner

    BETWEEN TWO WOMEN with Franchot Tone

    DARK PASSAGE with Humphrey Bogart

    Love those plastic surgery films, so thanks, TB!

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