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Now all movie fans might not be qualified to critique a film in terms of its filmic value, but everyone has a profession for which they might possibly know way more about the intricacies of the trade, and find the examples in a film to be, shall we say, less than accurate.
For example, being an artist and occasional sculptor, can cause one to find some scenes in movies laughable. There will be an actor holding a brush all wrong, not knowing how to dab on any paint with efficacy, and just in general looking ludicrous. Same for sculpting techniques which look ill suited for what finally emerges as the bust or whatever.
On the other hand, occasionally a film will portray adherents of one's chosen profession admirably in all qualities. For me the best film about an artist is "The Horse's Mouth" from 1958 with Alec Guinness as Gulley Jimson. He not only seemed believable in his artistry but his temperament was sadly way too close to many artists I have known, who were wonderfully loony.
I've heard plumbers make jokes about bad plumbers in movies, and architects cracking up about things they've seen done incorrectly and one could go on and on, but let's let others here go on and on about what films have the worst representation of anyone's chosen profession here. It could be interesting, but then again, what one finds interesting is really indicative of the observer and not the initiator.
P.S. I hated the representation of Michelangelo in "The Agony and the Ecstasy" and Charlton Heston made me laugh out loud at some of his antics.-
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On 2/14/2018 at 6:53 AM, TikiSoo said:
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I totally get why you are so tired, Tiki.
Thanks for confirming that working on PBN kits for equine crafts can make one very sleepy at times.
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On 2/13/2018 at 10:23 PM, limey said:
For me, it was the weather channel. No, not the weather channel that experimented with showing weather related movies (like Twister) some years back, but instead the weather channel that came with the Nintendo Wii gaming system - this had a continuous loop of relaxing music that never failed to aid my drift off to the land of dreams.
Sadly, it went away when Nintendo shut down the internet servers supporting the Wii, but fortunately the audio was preserved on youtube (just google for "weather channel wii" & you'll find several examples that you can leave streaming as you slumber)...
Hunh...good choice and one I'd never have thought of, Limey. Thanks!
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On 2/14/2018 at 2:04 AM, Dargo said:
Have to say here Stephan that just now after finding the above song via the following YouTube clip...
...I recognized the tune of the refrain portion of the song, as in the past I have seemed to remember that portion of the song being played instrumentally and minus the lyrics in period movies set in NYC during the Gay '90s.
However, this would be the first time I've ever heard either the lyrics and/or the complete version of the song.
And so thanks for enlightening me to this little bit of musical history.
(...yep, it was kind'a like that time I remember discovering as a kid that "Kill da Wabbit" had it actual roots with some German dude named Wagner...WHICH btw I hear is supposed to be pronounced as "Vagner" with a "V" for some strange reason...oh those crazy Germans!!!)

Just for you, Dargo!
John, Paul, George and Ringo in German.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCCfdiSv0Zk-
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On 2/14/2018 at 1:22 AM, Dargo said:
Wow! Sounds like a pretty depressing flick here, CG.
Ya know the only other thing that might've made it sound even more depressing? Yep, if it would've ended with the following scene:
♪♪On a cold and gray New York morn'
Another little baby child is born
On the Bowery
And his mama cries
On the Bowery ♪♪
(...Dargo has left the building)
That is one of my favorite Elvis Aron songs, Dargo! He sang it so beautifully when I saw him in concert.
How vile of you to make fun of it. Changing the word "ghetto" to "Bowery" is just wrong.
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Yes!
That's the guy. Kind of reminds me of Dustin Hoffman.
Thanks, GGG. I couldn't get it to show up in my post. -
On 2/14/2018 at 2:00 PM, Stephan55 said:
History of Valentines Day aside
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day
I just feel in the mood to wish All here a happy one!
To you and yours!
And if you find yourself alone, buy yourself a bag of Kisses (or your favorite confectionery) and imagine that someone whose dear is thinking about you at this moment and sent them to you!
If I could I'd send each of you a bag to enjoy and share with someone enjoyable!
(sincerely mean that)
You've all given me much enjoyment over the years with your rants and tangents, and I'm strangely feeling a little close and affectionate at this moment!
So Happy Valentines Day to each and every one of you!
(pass it on)This post is starting to remind me of Miss Lonelyhearts in the movie "Rear Window", Stephan. Remember how Jimmy would watch her machinations in getting ready for a date and then the guy would either attack her or dump her continually. And she would primp and pretend that her real knight in shining armor would show up soon, but alas, it was all pretty depressing, and especially after she would cook a whole dinner for the lounge lizard and even buy a nice wine to imbibe.
That Judith Evelyn always had trouble with men, like even in "The Tingler" where she was mute and had that dippy hubby and then old Vincent took to scaring her with the red blood in the sink, and the tingler got in her spinal column and...well, we won't go there. The red blood does remind me of a nice red Valentine card that might have candy hearts in it.
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No, I'm not referring to films belonging in the mystery genre, I'm talking about unknown facts about certain films or the people in them or about oddball things that occurred while filming, that incite the true movie nut's interest.
For example, in "The Birth of a Nation" there is the famous scene with Lillian Gish walking in front of a soldier holding a rifle I think, and his look of wistfulness and adoration is just visceral. Yet to my knowledge, no one knew who this guy was and he's not in the credits of the film. Yet every time I've seen the film in a group setting, there is a decided reaction to his almost adoring look at Lillian. I wonder...who was this guy? Was he ever in anything else, or even another D.W. Griffith movie? What happened to him. Was this his only film role? I know...some would say "Who cares..." but I do care. I find his take mesmerizing and memorable.
On the site below, there is a reproduction of the scene with a blurb saying Gish is with Henry B. Walthall, but all silent fans know that is NOT HBW! So that's the first mystery to tackle. Does anyone know if this man's identity was ever discovered? It used to be a fun topic to speculate on at a silent movie site I used to frequent.Now, do you have a similar movie mystery in any vein, that seemingly has never been solved that you'd like to submit. Please feel free to task our brains with even the most obscure mystery. I'm sure some of the aficianados here might be able to solve things for you.
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On 2/13/2018 at 6:44 PM, speedracer5 said:
I love that show too. It's on every night on Hallmark from 8pm-10pm (PST) and the entire series is on Hulu. Blanche is my favorite character--she's hilarious.
I can watch a marathon and not get tired. Great work by creator Susan Harris and sometime writer, Gail Parent who also wrote for "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman." Sorry have to go fix that waxy yellow buildup on my linoleum floor.
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On 2/14/2018 at 3:29 PM, TopBilled said:
I agree. She and Peck also did a 1993 TV movie together, called The Portrait.
I had a chance to see her once at a special luncheon at the University of Southern California. After the meal, she did a lengthy question and answer session. She said during the event Jeanne Moreau was one of her best friends. She had done a film for the BBC with Jeanne that was filmed in France, and they didn't know each other until the production. And she said they become instant pals.
They asked her which director she liked working with, and she raved about Robert Altman (she made two pictures with him). She referred to her early time in Hollywood as her Bogey Years, that's what she would say when they asked her about the movies she made in the 40s. She said when they made those films, it was obviously before TV and home video; and they never thought people would still be watching their performances decades later or even care about it.
A friend of mine whose father wrote the book on which THE SHOOTIST was based said he was on the set often and Bacall had problems with Duke. But she did not discuss John Wayne during the luncheon. He was not in good health at the time, and I think maybe those issues made him difficult for a lot of people to be around. I read the book after I had just seen the movie, and the book is very basic. It's a novella, not an actual novel. And her character in the book is very underdeveloped. I gained a greater appreciation for her when I realized how she brought the character to life. She's one of the best things in THE SHOOTIST. She might have started as a glamorous accessory to Bogart but she became a very good actress.
Very interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing, TB. I too like Bacall in that film and I particularly love her apartment which is the highest echelon of chic for the time period. Whenever I think of Bacall I always think of the nickname I think I read that Bogart's friends called her by...Ladder Legs!
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Oh, you believed that?
Natch, I was lying but you are right about the censoring squad rationale.-
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On 2/13/2018 at 9:41 PM, slaytonf said:
Aw, what the hell, let's just have one thread for everything. At the least, it would make discussion here a lot more lively.
They could just call it the Grab Bag. It might prove interesting in a kind of sci-fi extrapolation type way.
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21 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
I told this tale before, but now it fits somehow, here it comes again....
My Mother remarried in 1959 when I was still 7 going on 8 (a few months later) That winter, on one of the coldest December nights in a long time, I was at the kitchen table while my new stepfather was out shoveling the snow. When he came in the side door, he could be heard stamping his feet on the landing floor making "B-r-r-r-r-r-r" sounds when my Mom walked over and asked, "Is it very cold out there Georgie?" And he replied, "It's damned GRAPE NUTS weather out there!" and my Mom quickly gave a sharp "SHH!, GEORGE! The KIDS can hear you!" But I was in the kitchen wondering what in the world BREAKFAST CEREAL had to do with cold weather!
Took me about four or five years to finally figure that out.

Sepiatone
Huh? I still don't get it. Explain please, Sepia.
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On 2/14/2018 at 2:06 PM, Dargo said:
Seein' as how there were never any nude beaches in our ol' neck of the woods or within any of the L.A. County beaches(that I know of anyway), I assume this all took place either down south along San Onofre or up north along those sorts of designated beaches in the Santa Barbara area.
Darg, by the way did you know about Bud Cort's friendship with Groucho?
Now that is one strange connection for sure!-
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On 2/14/2018 at 1:38 PM, Stephan55 said:
HaHa, No, it happened way before Seinfeld, but the effect was still the same

Up till then, I don't think I fully realized just how well the body could literally draw everything into itself to protect itself from the cold...
And what was worse is I was so flamboyantly bold about diving in... And so embarrassed to come out that I remained there, shivering in the water trying to figure out what I could do to escape the predicament.
I finally ended up swimming a distance further down the shore, and came out on a relatively unpopulated narrow strip that separated the "nude" beach from the regular one. I laid on my belly on the warm sand until my circulation (and 'normal' size) returned. Then strolled back up the shore to where my compadres were.
Later, when some of the girls I was with asked me to go into the water with them, I had to decline with a flimsy excuse, I think I said that there was a rip tide which was why I had to swim so far to get out of it.
I sure didn't want to go through that experience again!
Your remembrance is starting to remind me of a scene from some Bergman film, like "Persona" with Liv Ullman and Bibi Andersson or whatever. I bet Ingmar could have used your dream sequence and concocted a nice back story for one of his films like "Hour of the Wolf" or something.
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On 2/14/2018 at 1:30 AM, Stephan55 said:
Watching that little video clip from Brewster McCloud reminded me of when I sometimes have a "flying" dream.
I never have wings or "flap" my arms like an awkward bird, but rather I am running and jumping (or springing and leaping on all fours like a leopard) getting ever higher until I am flying. Other times I just sort of levitate like Christopher Reeve's Superman in that first movie, or like Jay Underwood in The Boy Who Could Fly.
But I sometimes find myself in a crowded environment like on an escalator in a large mall. I just decide to levitate to everyone's amazement, but often there is someone there who tries to grab my feet and legs and pull me back down.
I first began "flying" in my sleep when I was a kid. My nocturnal flight skills evolved as I grew older, peaked, and now appear to be in decline. I don't fly in my sleep near as often as I used to. Always a thrill when it happens though! Better than any sex dream I ever had.
Wonder what a shrink could make out of all that?Do you also dream in colour, Stephan? I'd ask Dargo that too, but he would not approve of the use of the "u" in the word "colour" sadly.
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On 2/13/2018 at 11:48 PM, Stephan55 said:
Oh damn, I wanted to say Brewster McCloud (1970)
Stacy Keach: "Bird doo doo, Brewster there's bird doo doo on the windshield.... Brewster!"
What a hilarious chaotic fantasy of a movie! Perfectly matched for the crazy chaotic world of 1970!
Well I could say another Altman classic satire of the day MASH which also features Sally Kellerman in a brief scene of FFFN.
But I think that a more insane match for Brewster (in which Cort plays the "romantic" lead) would be Harold and Maude (1971) with the ever amazing and equally silly and funny Ruth Gordon.I love the part where Maude shows Harold the Odorifics machine, and he gets to enjoy the subway smells but finally, the snow one. It's a magical scene...
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It could be worse. Maybe this poster mentioned by Lawrence has a fetish for Allison Hayes, and then he would post Youtube scenes from the classic "The Hypnotic Eye" with Allison as Justine and Jacques Bergerac as Desmond the hypnotist. And any poster watching the videos could get hypnotized into only posting in threads about Allison Hayes. I always dug her early hair style with the frosted sections. She was definitely before her time, before Audrey Hepburn's time too, at least in hair coloring!
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3 minutes ago, universalkaiju said:
On 2 of my posts here, people start talking about the 50 foot women even tough it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm not blaming anyone but it's just strange.
No matter what the topic, I always try to bring in references to the film with the 50-ft. woman, being that Allison Hayes sure made a sheet sheath look good, plus every time I see model displays of new building sites in miniature, I start putting my hands in through the windows and calling out "HARRY...WHERE ARE YOU, HARRY???"
Sorry to hear you don't appreciate such homages to the film. I bet you don't like Yvette Vickers either, spoilsport!
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13 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
(she looks kind of like a butch Pagliacci)
Oh, geez, that says it all for sure.
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12 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

That's it!!!!!





The End of "TV"
in General Discussions
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I think there is a difference between being a talking head, who reads scripted information about the news, or whatever, and being someone who can speak extemporaneously about subject matter with obvious background knowledge of the topic. Personally I would prefer to see someone who has little stage presence, but who is a spirited admirer and follower of film, and shows that they truly can speak off the top of their head about films. Sure they still might have copy that is written out and timed but hopefully they came up with most or some of it. The best tv reporters write their own copy and why that is not the norm on any other type hosting role giving out information, I don't understand. It's like putting Britney Spears on to discuss ice road trucking or making her the host of "Antiques Roadshow" for fans who know way more than she to begin with. No wonder people here get so critical of what they hear as prologues or afterthoughts to the films.