[Worst Nude Scenes in HIstory of Movies!]

Okay, I haven't seen that many nude scenes in films due to a predilection for more high minded art. But when I have seen a frighteningly realistic nude scene in a mainstream film, I would hope that it is in low lighting with not too much definition.

Which takes me back to one that is burned in my memory, that of Harvey Keitel in "The Piano".

It was almost as scary as seeing maggots fall from the ceiling in the film "Suspiria".

Name a nude scene in a mainstream movie, that you wish had never been filmed.

[Hate, Detest, Despise and Abhor Movies]

This is such a fun category and I've lifted the line probably from "Meet Me in St. Louis".

There truly are some films I just can't watch. Stuff probably like "Savannah Smiles" or anything with the Olson Twins.

Of course, those films were probably not made with people like me in mind, so I have no problem that they exist, and are happy others want to view them.

I saw one horrid film once, called something like "Brother Sun, Sister Moon" that made me gag, as did "Paint Your Wagon". I could probably watch that now and enjoy seeing terrible singing by people like Lee Marvin and get a good laugh out of it.

What films cause you to throw out your bottle of syrup of ipecac since just seeing the title of some trite tripe, can make you lose your victuals quickly?

[Slightly Taboo Movies]

6 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

I'm a Cronenberg fan going back to Shivers/They Came from Within, followed by Rabid, The Brood, Scanners, Videodrome, The Dead Zone, The Fly, Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Crash and Existenz. A History of Violence and Eastern Promises are good, but I prefer the earlier, more transgressive Cronenberg.

I've seen them all except for the last one, but stuff from "Naked Lunch" still sticks with me in my subconscious. Yikes!

[Slightly Taboo Movies]

10 minutes ago, ChristineHoard said:

CaveGirl,  I'm another fan of the Cronenberg CRASH and DEAD RINGERS.  When Irons won the Oscar for REVERSAL OF FORTUNE, he thanked Cronenberg for casting him in DEAD RINGERS.  CRASH is pretty out-there with people getting "kicks" from car accidents.  I found it to be original and provocative.  DEAD RINGERS is loosely based on a true story as you probably know. 

Yay! He's so wonderful isn't he, Irons I mean? Yes, the real story about those wacky twin doctors is almost freakier than the film. I read a book about them and so glad they were NOT my practitioners for any ailment.

Irons is great in anything, and I first saw him in "Brideshead Revisited" on tv probably from the BBC and Masterpiece Theatre. What I think would be fabulous though would be if he were in an out and out comedy. I'm sure he could do anything justice. Thanks for your thoughts, Christine. Cronenberg is definitely an acquired taste, but once you acquire it you are hooked.

"Videodrome"!!!!!

[The James Earl Jones Of His Time]

At first I thought of Rex Ingram the director but since his real name was Reginald Ingram Hitchcock, I guess that's not the inspiration for James Earl Jones.

Never mind...

[Dirty Harry vs. Bullitt]

2 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

Magnum Force was meant to be an answer to critics who accused the first film of being fascist and/or celebrating vigilantism. An interesting anecdote is that the concept for this movie was from a draft of the first film's script by then-unknown filmmaker Terrence Malick.

 

I still think "Badlands" by Malick is one of the great movies of all time. For vigilantism, wouldn't "Death Wish" be in the running also?

[I Just Watched...]

6 minutes ago, RosieSayer said:

My favorite is Melvyn Douglas's reply: "I'd love a potato."

Love him! He's so classy and sophisticated in anything. Thanks, Rosie!

[That Obscure Object of Desire]

Sure, this is a great film by Luis Bunuel, particularly with his innovation of using two distinctly different actresses to play the same part, but I am using the phrase more to discuss films which have eluded your reach for many years.

I think all film buffs have some films which they unfortunately missed on their first release or the film is way older than the potential viewer and impossible now to find. For me, that film for years was Bresson's "Au Hazard, Balthasar" which finally was released by Criterion. It definitely lived up to its most apt review by Jean-Luc Godard saying it was something like "The world...in an hour and a half."

My current want and object of desire is a film called "The Travelling Players" which came out in the 1970's and was directed by Theodoros Angelopoulos. I'd love to see it but so far no go.

Name your cinematic "object of desire" whether it be high brow or low brow, but please no middle brow as those films are always readily available and easy to find. Plus, I don't do middle brow for obvious reasons.

[Slightly Taboo Movies]

I mean, as you know Lawrence, Spielberg is not one to make films with intriquingly dystopian themes. He only got involved with producing things like even "Schindler's List" after Akira Kurosawa made some comments about filmmakers who continually make sequels for adding to their cash flow. Then Stevie began the supposedly socially relevant movies which may garner humanitarian awards but personally I'd rather watch Jeremy Irons play dastardly twins in a Cronenberger film like "Dead Ringers". No, those who only know of Ballard from "Empire of the Sun" need to stay clear of this topic for their own good. We wouldn't want to corrupt them, now would we?

[Tulpa Time]

On 1/6/2018 at 7:24 AM, sewhite2000 said:

Well ... it was a "dark time" of my life I don't care to dwell on!  Some people on the message boards thought I was the problem, which came as a shock to me, but I did get rather combative, much more so than I ever have on here. Probably because I was so passionate about the show, both old and new. People were making a lot of outrageous claims that something you could see in a freeze frame, for example, was an indication of some incredible plot revelation, and everyone would jump on the bandwagon about this supposed revelation, and I would be the one to say, "I don't know ...", and everyone wanted to know why I was the killjoy who was hatin' on everyone's fun speculation. I became rather unpopular. I would revisit after a day or two and see that people had had great fun making snide comments about me in my absence.

It's not that I was opposed to wild theories. It was just that one person would say something, and then 30 other people would latch on to that theory, and all of them would be saying, THIS is the only legitimate interpretation! Which I found to counterproductive to the spirit of a Lynch work. As you suggest in your post, virtually any interpretation is possible.

Are you saying the new season is out in a boxed set?

SEW, sorry it took me so long to answer. Yes, the whole series of the Return is out in a boxed set. I think it ranges in price from around 50-60 bucks. I have been germinating on what you wrote originally here about a site dedicated to "Twin Peaks" fans and I think from your description of the fans there, they are totally lacking in any understanding of the work of David Lynch. It is well known amongst advocates of his oeuvre that he presents no explanation of his reveries on film, nor does he ascribe to any singular definition of the events that occurred, which means that any and possibly all interpretations could be valid. To try to say that there is only one explanation of who was in the garbage dumpster in "Mulholland Drive" or what Henry found in his chest of drawers or was doing at the eraser factory, goes against the whole Lynchian world view. So I would have only found your passionate "killjoy" remonstrances to be valid probably. Thanks for posting further info on the faux Lynch site which I shall now avoid.

[Slightly Taboo Movies]

If you watch films directed by Spielberg, you really need to stay clear of this thread which you might find upsetting.

[Tulpa Time]

On 1/4/2018 at 6:00 PM, Vautrin said:

My own tulpa tells me that Tulsa Time is not really set in Tulsa. It's about

a guy who left Tulsa and headed west and now wishes he was back in

Tulsa. If he was in Tulsa he wouldn't need to set his watch to Tulsa time.

Yes, the tulpa knows.

Or he could be Tiny Tim's doppelganger, Vautrin and got lost in a space continuum while singing "Tiptoe through the Tulpas" and he ended up in that Twin Peaks diner, dating Peggy Lipton because he had a crush on her doppelganger who was in the Mod Squad.

[I Just Watched...]

On 1/12/2018 at 12:54 PM, Janet0312 said:

The Old Dark House 1932. 

I don't recall who posted that this little gem had been restored, but I absolutely had to have it. After years and years of this film not airing anywhere and having bought a bootleg DVD, I couldn't resist. My bootleg was muddy. I don't know if that's the proper term to use here, but the film I had was pretty much unwatchable. Enter the restored version, and baby, it is GORGEOUS!!!!!! I'm going to check out the process of how and why and when, etc. Haven't had a chance, but man, what a thrill. Thumbs up.

 

Have a potato.

 

Janet, you have to pronounce it just like Ernest Thesiger and say "Haf a potahto!" Glad you appreciated the same line that is my favorite also.

[Slightly Taboo Movies]

If one is a fan of films a bit off the wall, that feature thanatoptic visions of eros, then you probably are already a fan of J.G. Ballard. His book, "Crash" which was made into a mind boggling film with stars James Spader, Holly Hunter and Elias Koteas as directed by the only person probably who could direct it, David Cronenberger. Focusing on the substrata of society who view car accidents as aids to achieving the state of le petit mort, this 1996 film is definitely not for the easily squeamish.

Ballard did write some things that could work in films for mainstream viewing, but his usually apocalyptic thoughts as in books that became movies like "High Rise" show his belief that madness is the last resort in the current world we know.

If you enjoy, or actually don't enjoy but feel obligated to view things like "Crash" and Pasolini's "Salo" just because, then please add your contributions in this thread to the film genre which showcases the slightly taboo, that can be repulsive, odious but still intriquing.

 

[Really bad but classic movies.]

Just was looking at some recalcitrant youth walking by and his failed pompadour reminded me of one of my favorite Grade Z flicks. "Wild Guitar" starring Arch Hall, Junior and if you wondered what senior looks like, he's in the movie too. Arch Hall, Senior by the way looks nothing like his blondined and peroxided son, Archibald Junior. Daddy plays Junior's unscrupulous agent who is dastardly ripping the poor boy off and trying to corrupt him with chicks like Daisy, as played by Virginia Broderick and whatever happened to her and her swinging ways? This film is a classic from 1962 and was directed by crazed madman, Ray Dennis Steckler. It is gobs of fun with amazing songs as performed by Junior, and just watching his pompadour that looks like cotton candy is worth the price of admission. Showing his range in acting, you might also want to catch the follow-up, "The Sadist" which also stars Junior as a not so nice pervert. Anything with the Hall family in it, is worth watching fer shure!

[Ignored Movies (I'd/We'd?) Like to See Again!]

I tend to remember death scenes in films. A very strange friend of mine once asked me to tape just the death scenes from the original movie "The Godfather". It was still a pretty long tape...

[BitterSWEET MYSTERY OF LIFE:]

4 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

You're right. Fabian wasn't bad at all in Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation.   With Marie Wilson and John MacGyver doing all the heavy lifting, all Fabian had to do was look good--and he did look good.

Thanks, Princess! And who can forget his amazing performance on that tv series, "Bus Stop" which received many objectionable comments due to the violence of the episode. 

For pure eye candy, Mr. Forte was not bad either as the hunk in "Ride the Wild Surf". He really did have acting talent that was never really utilized by Hollywood sadly.

[Really bad but classic movies.]

One of my favorite films to watch is..."Zontar, the Thing from Venus".

Now firstly, it stars John Agar and that always makes for great viewing. He is so earnestly mundane, that I love watching him not emote. This was directed by Larry Buchanan, so enough said on that front. The plot is basically just what the IMDB review states with a straight face:

"Zontar has come to earth and has many ideas, like disabling the power supply of the entire world and taking possession of important officials with mind control devices."
 

Hmmm, this sounds a bit too familiar to current events so I need to stop writing and save the world from this scourge!

Apparently, Zontar lives!!!

[Dirty Harry vs. Bullitt]

13 hours ago, Dargo said:

Well, I've always liked Magnum Force a bit, and for two reasons:

One, because it's got motorcycles in it. I LOVE motorcycles, ya know.

And two, because this is the Dirty Harry flick where Clint says those immortal words, "A man's got'a know his limitations". Back in the day I used to say that ALL the time.

(...it's really pretty profound, wouldn't ya say?!) 

Speaking of your motorcycle addiction, Dargo...how do you feel about the Jack Cardiff directed film, "The Girl on a Motorcycle? It has Marianne Faithfull, whose singing I know you dig and of course French pretty boy, Alain Delon. It's a pretty hip flick and is showing up in a lot of film catalogues I've been getting in the mail. 

[BitterSWEET MYSTERY OF LIFE:]

On 1/13/2018 at 10:35 AM, Mozart1791 said:

what some casting directors saw in F Avalon, P Boone and R Nelson.

The obvious intention was to create ,,wholesome'' competition to Presley and JL Lewis; how well did those directors succeed?

Boone's voice was a failed imitation of NK Cole's; as to his acting, he was good only for testing whether camera lenses were indeed unbreakable.

FA and RN had really nice voices, sweet and caressing; as actors, however, they were not the Pacino nor de Niro of their time.

What casting directors saw was "teen idols" who would bring in some moola from the younger set, in films that might have been more likely attracting older audiences, since they had stars like John Wayne, Dean Martin and the like in them. Money talks and putting a Fabian, who couldn't sing at all and was probably tone deaf, in a flick might ensure more ticket sales. Actually of all of the above, Fabian actually was not such a bad actor but his singing could injure eardrums!

[Ignored Movies (I'd/We'd?) Like to See Again!]

On 1/3/2018 at 6:31 PM, CinemaInternational said:

Now I was able to track down a VHS copy of it to watch it, but how about Isadora from 1968? The story of Isadora Duncan, it received very strong notices for Vanessa Redgrave. Some hold it to be one of her best performances. But it has never aired on TCM and there is no DVD.

 

And two other little seen Universal films from the same vintage....

 

Diary of a Mad Housewife, with a strong, Oscar-Nominated performance from Carrie Snodgress...

 

And Puzzle of a Downfall Child, which has one of Faye Dunaway's most sadly overlooked performances....

 

Three great movies that need more attention. Glad to see someone posting about them. After watching "Isadora" I never again wore a very long scarf...in fear of being strangled to death!

[Strange things in 50s and 60s sci-fi movies]

Or the same furniture that is used in a couple of different scenes in the film!

[Your fav. character players???]

Albert Salmi and John Anderson are two of my favorites. Anderson is the guy who played the car salesman in "Psycho" and also the pilot in the Twilight Zone episode where they go back in time to the 1933 World's Fair and also get to see those dinosaurs, which cost Serling mucho moola just for the short segment. 

Oh, I almost forgot...I also love Joe Mantell who is Marty's friend in...well, "Marty". He's also in "Chinatown". Great character actor!

[the honeymoon killers]

Bonnie was not bad looking but Clyde was a bit of a wimp. Probably because he had that phallic issue which he assuaged by carrying a pistol. Speaking of the "Gruesome Twosome" by Hershell Gordon Lewis, that's a great movie that I know would be one of your faves, Dargo.

[the honeymoon killers]

Love this movie! Not because people get murdered in it which of course is odious, but for its very unique qualities that are so different from the usual Tinseltown crime drama. I remember seeing interviews with Truman Capote talking about Martha Beck being his neighbor when he was a kid. They had a friendship as I recall. I'm surprised he did not write a book about that in terms of his new slant on non-fictional fiction style. I think the film is well done for the very fact that it presents the murders realistically which is painful to watch, as maybe it should be. Better than a stylized and low key typical Hollywood killing scenario where you can forget who just got offed in a few seconds. Uniquely filmed and with fascinating psychological touches about the aberrant relationship of Ray and Martha. I must say Shirley Stoler was a much more attractive version of the real Martha though.