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15 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
Of the two versions from James Cain's novel, I prefer the 1946 version. It was sexier (despite the fact there were no actual sex scenes unlike it's 80's successor), and for me Garfield IS Frank Chambers and always will be, just as Lana Turner will always be Cora, they were just that memorable in the roles.
Now Jack Nicholson and Jessica Lange turned in fine performances in the 1981 film, but the script lets them down, badly and it also drags down the whole film, right up to the unsatisfactory climax.
Also appreciate the fact that the Frank and Cora in the earlier version at least showed some remorse for what they did to Nick....didn't see one lick of remorse from either Nicholson's Frank or Lange's Cora. As a matter of fact (SPOILER ALERT) Frank is rather smug as he is exiting the jail that he's beaten the rap (though Cora threatens later on to rat on him to the D.A.....if he can't be tried again, what the heck was he afraid of, and if wasn't really charged at the time, and thus still could be tried for Nick's murder, what was he doing in jail?).
Garfield's Frank is reluctant to want to kill Nick (at first), acknowledging that Nick never did him any wrong, it is Turner's Cora who urges him that they would be happier without her hubby in the way....yet she does acknowledge later on they did in fact take a life but foolishly believes that (again SPOILER ALERT) their unborn child will make up for taking Nick's life. Their final fates, technically, is just, because they had no right to commit murder, they had the option to just walk away, which Cora refused to do because she wanted her cake and eat it too. Still there is a sense of tragedy that things didn't have to end this way but their pride, greed, stubbornness and passion for each other proved to be their undoing.
You really want karma to catch up to Frank and Cora in the 1981 film, just as it did in the 1946 movie (as I say the Frank and Cora in the 80's film weren't the least bit sorry for what they did to Nick), but justice was only HALF served, which defeats the whole purpose of the story, not to mention the meaning of the title of Cain's book.
I am definitely going to have to go with your choice, Beth as my favorite over the Lange/Nicholson version. Now not because I did not enjoy the 1981 take, because I did, and in some ways it was nearer to the book by James M. Cain. And sex scenes in general don't deter me, since I've seen "Salo" and after that anything looks tame. But since I love breadmaking and enjoy trying many fine varieties in restaurants, I can never forget Frank and Cora's behaviour on that well floured bread board and it has affected my enjoyment of Le Pain in many fine restaurants to this day. I just don't want a baked good that had Jack Nicholson's backside touching it before cooking, as a delicacy if you know what I mean.
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On 12/14/2017 at 3:56 PM, scsu1975 said:
Are those Harvey Weinstein's hands on Ann?
Well, you know Monty Wooley would not be interested in The Oomph Girl, since he was more attracted to people like Cole Porter, SCSU!
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Uh, since I have little respect for film critics, I totally ignore their beliefs about films, in the sense of the saying "Those who can do, those who can't become film critics."
Now there is one that posts here that I highly respect and think does a fabulous job, but I digress.Really now, who cares what the majority of so-called "film critics" say. Many people here know more about films than a lot who are writing film criticism online or for newspapers.
Now there are some film critics whose opinion I hold dearly...but they are mostly dead! I trust my own judgment and would never not watch a film based on another's ideas about its worth. I remember once a person who wrote film criticism for a local paper, said a Robert Altman film was not probably worth seeing because it was "very dark". I said to him "I like very dark films so thanks for the encouragement in seeing it."-
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For those who think decorating one's refrigerator is a high art, do not miss the late tonight or early tomorrow morning repeat of the classic self-help short below. Personally I don't think enough people worry about the effect that their fridge might have on visitors to their kitchens, and could learn some things from this instructional from Westinghouse!
Gotta say I really love seeing these old promotional bits on TCM. Any favorites that you have viewed?:
MATCH YOUR MOOD ( 1968)
Westinghouse shows women how to improve their lives by decorating their refrigerators in this short film.
C- 6 mins,
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Now now, Dargo...I think all know that your youth filled days were more in the early 20th century when you dated Florence Lawrence, the Biograph girl. And if they'd had the "Me, Too" movement back in the 1920's, poor little Mary Miles Minter who was underaged, would be putting your name on the Internet. You know you were seeing her way before she took up with William Desmond Taylor, who later was murdered probably for his indiscretions with the ladies.
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"Mulan",eh?
Talk to Dargo cuz he saw the original silent version with Mae Marsh and Richard Barthelmess in 1919. He was dating Mae Busch at the time because he really dug her Bee-Stung Lip Look! -
On 12/14/2017 at 1:40 AM, LawrenceA said:
I was in the break room. A newspaper boy came running by yelling, "Yekstra! Yekstra! Reee-alla-bout it! Lindboig does it!" I nearly spit out my sarsaparilla.
Too bad you weren't dancing on a table, like Norma Desmond, Lawrence!
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On 12/14/2017 at 1:37 AM, Dargo said:
Uh-huh...uh-huh.
So tell me here Lawrence.
Do you also still remember where you were when ya heard Lindbergh made it all the way to Paris?
(...wait, lemme guess here...that would've been in '27, and so you were probably watching Wings at the Bijou with the guys from the plant too, huh)
Clara Bow said of all the men she dated, including John Wayne and the entire UCLA football team, Dargo, that you were her favorite!!! What's the truth about you and William Boyd though, inquiring minds want to know...
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On 12/14/2017 at 1:11 AM, LawrenceA said:
The Blair Witch Project didn't come out until summer of 1999. Your theater must have loved Titanic.
I recall the first feature movie I saw in the theater. It was The Kid, and me the other guys down at the plant didn't know if Chaplin could sustain an entire feature as the Tramp. We were proved wrong.
Boy, I would have loved to have seen "The Kid" when it came out and Jackie was just a mere lad. Of course that would make me about 112 years old which could be a problem. Always loved Jackie, even as a drug dealer in films or Uncle Fester.
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On 12/13/2017 at 11:33 PM, Dargo said:
OOOOOoooooohhhh...now how does that old Bon Jovi song go again? Somethin' like, "Shot through the heart"???
MAN, I've never felt SO damn old.
Ya know that story I told earlier about seein' The Ten Commandments at the Egyptian Theater in the mid-'50s when I was a kid?
Well, I was just thinkin' here that there's a DAMN good possibility that one of N&N's GRANDparents might have been in that same audience and watchin' that DeMille flick when THEY were a little tyke TOO!
LOL
(...man oh man...where does the time go...where does it go)
Do you still have your William S. Hart Fan Club kit, Dargo? By the way, I heard that Milton Sills and Constance Talmadge left you money in their wills for your undying devotion during their careers in silents. And you danced the tango with Theda Bara once at a party at Valentino's Wolfhead Lair in Beverly Hills once it's been said. Any photos you'd like to post?
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On 12/13/2017 at 8:00 PM, GGGGerald said:
I was the baby of the family by a long shot. My first memories of movies were sitting in the back seat while either my parents took me to some boring drama that put me to sleep. Or my brother took me to some kung fu film, some supernatural exorcist, omen type of film or some comedy.
I can remember the food and candy better
Used to love getting those Non Pareils and Milk Duds at the kiddie matinees. Thanks, Gerald!
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On 12/13/2017 at 6:21 PM, Sepiatone said:
My first drive in movie experience is easy to remember. I piled into a car with my best friend's family, his parents and his tow sisters and his older brother. One of the movies was VISIT TO A SMALL PLANET with Jerry Lewis. I don't remember the other movie. It was 1960, and just a few weeks before my 9th birthday.
The next was later in the fall of that year and just before the drive-ins closed for winter. It was me and my mother, stepfather and stepbrother only,and the movie was SPARTACUS.
Sepiamudgeon
No, I'm Sepiatone! A Jerry Lewis film as one's first could really warp one's psyche by the way.
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On 12/13/2017 at 1:14 PM, Dargo said:
I'm pretty sure I've told the following before around here, but...my first recollection of movie-going was at about age 4 or 5.
Mom, Dad, my much older sister Diana and I went to The Egyptian Theater in Hollywood(at least I think it was there, although it might have been to some other grand old movie palace in downtown L.A.) to see DeMille's big new technicolor remake of his The Ten Commandments.
And so, and speaking of CG's vivid first memory of watching the man falling from the bridge and thus in peril, I distinctly remember the scene in DeMille's movie where Moses' Hebrew slave birth mother played by Martha Scott is in peril of being crushed by two large stone blocks as they're being moved together during the building of the pyramids.
Now, perhaps my first recollection in regard to television viewing would probably be the following weekly opening sequence to the early-1950's TV series Inner Sanctum...
...and I remember it used to scare the crap out of me.
(...and thus evidently feeling I was the one "in peril" in this case, is probably the very reason I remember this so vividly)
***note: evidently to see this opening sequence, you have to move this video's play cursor all the way to the left***
Frankly I'm shocked, Dargo that your first memory is of a C.B. DeMille film because I would have guessed it would be "Lady of Burlesque" or maybe "The G-String Murders". I agree though that imminent tragedy on a large scale can imbed itself into one's childlike memory and remain there for eons. I only know of "Inner Sanctum" from my books on radio shows and tv ones, but it looks like it was a winner and a bit like "Lights Out" possibly? Thanks for your thoughts.
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On 12/13/2017 at 12:29 PM, jamesjazzguitar said:
My earliest movie at a drive-in that I can recall was One Million Years B.C. I clearly recall telling my older brother and dad that I wanted to see the film for the dinosaurs. They said they wanted to see it for other reasons. It wasn't until I was a few years older that I understood what those reasons were!
PS: A few years later I got the iconic poster for this film. Yea, those other reasons were clearly on display in that poster.
As a child, it would be hard to pick between the 1940's film, "One Million B.C." with Carole Landis and Victor Mature or "One Million Years B.C. with Raquel Welch. But if one wanted to choose the one with the largest mammary battle between Victor or Raquel I would probably have to go with Groucho's choice. You were a lucky boy to have parents to take you to such historically accurate a film, James!
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On 12/13/2017 at 8:56 AM, Bogie56 said:
The earliest movie at a drive-in that I can remember, straight from Japan was Mothra.
Nothing like going to the drive-in as a kid for one's first movie experience!
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I'm going to count the revival of "Twin Peaks" as a film since the boxed set is combining things in a film type manner. Not having Showtime, I was looking forward to a release of the entire series and it has not failed to satisfy. Having only watched Parts One and Two, I can simply say that it has been a bit of a Proustian type of experience, akin to his denouement where people from the past seemingly appear, but all is not what it seems.
The premise concerning Agent Cooper is intriquing and the reappearance of characters like Ben Horne, Lucy, Andy, Leland and Sarah Palmer, the Log Lady, Shelly and James Hurley, tests one's ability to recognize people who seem like old friends, friends though who live in a very strange place with mysterious murders and doppelgangers abounding. I look forward to savouring it slowly and haltingly to make the Lynch fix last longer.
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Loved the movie "The Collector" and also the original book by John Fowles. Any conversation about the movie with Terence Stamp and Samantha Eggar is appreciated. No conversation about the movie "Billy Jack" with Tom Laughlin will be admissible though.
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On 12/10/2017 at 8:22 AM, Sepiatone said:
Yeah, I did miss their correction, but I'll further go on to say that I found the correct wording on a "famous quotes" site, under "Yamamoto". So yeah, he actually said it. WHEN he said it is not clear though. as to part 2 of your quote:
Yeah, they showed "appropriately flavoured" movies for Saint Andrew's Day. But they DIDN'T for example, show TORA! TORA! TORA! on that day TOO, did they?
Get the drift NOW, LIMEY?
Sepiatone
Speaking of "Tora Tora Tora" I had a friend from Kyoto, who brought her aunt [who had lived through the entire years of WWII in her home in Japan] to the United States in the 1980's.
One day they were showing the film, "Tora Tora Tora" on tv, and my friend told the aunt to turn the tv off, since she was wanting to take the aunt to dinner. At that, the aunt got upset and said "I can't leave now; I want to see how this movie ends!"
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18 hours ago, jakeem said:
The great soul singer Otis Redding was killed in a plane crash 50 years ago this week in Madison, Wisconsin. His last hit record -- the wistful "(Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay" was released shortly afterwards and became a No. 1 hit. Earlier in the year, Aretha Franklin's song "Respect" reached the top of the charts. It was written by Redding.
He was inducted posthumously into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1989.
All the stuff put out by the Stax studio was mega hitworthy! I think Redding's hit, "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay" has as a session artist, Steve Cropper who with Duck Dunn made all those songs of Booker T, so great.
The boxed set of the Monterey Pop festival on dvd, is so worth seeing just for the performance of Otis Redding. It was a great loss to the music world when he met his demise.
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15 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
The Sorrow and the Pity is on the 5th...in fact, the whole day and night of Documentary nominees and winners is a rare treat.
I haven't seen The Sound Barrier (8th).
Immortal Love (1961) 13th...I haven't seen this Japanese movie.
And that's it...I've seen everything else that month.
Any film with both David Lean at the helm and Terrence Rattigan involved, like "The Sound Barrier' is superior entertainment! All I can think of when I hear the title "The Sorrow and the Pity" is the film "Annie Hall" and Woody's predilection to keep seeing it over and over. Thanks for the update on February viewing!
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On 5/12/2015 at 10:13 AM, primosprimos said:
Hey, at least you didn't ask me to pick anything today, Kate Hepburn makes my teeth itch with her scenery chewing.
But come on, doesn't Ding Dong Williams sound a treat?
I just love, love, love hearing her say "The calla lilies are in bloom again. What wonderful flowers they are.." or whatever that line is that she murders continually in "Stage Door".
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24 minutes ago, Dargo said:
Ya know, I've always wanted to visit what I hear is one of the most beautiful areas of the U.K., The Lake District.
(...tell me...do they still allow fishing with a shotgun there?)
Yeah, but you have to bring your own barrel, Dargo.
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14 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:
While the Italian Il Postino/The Postman has a lot of emotional resonance between the lower-class Massimo Troisi as a provincial postal delivery man and Philippe Noiret as world-renowned poet Pablo Neruda, plus the beautiful charms of co-star Maria Grazia Cucinotta, there's also no mistaking the love of Americana evident in Kevin Costner's The Postman, that post-apocalyptic epic about a barely-surviving schmo who dresses up as a postal carrier and tries to deliver the mail left in his mailbag. How he inspires the other survivors is heartwarming, and the cameo by Tom Petty is now more sentimental than ever.
Oh, you meant two other movies? Never mind.
Oh, yes I would have put the whole title but didn't think there was room in the header.
But I actually love "Il Postino" and the Hollywood version with the "schmo" gives me heartburn that no amount of Tums can help.
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My mother would let us have our Mogen David with a jigger of Seven-Up, because I'm sure she did not want her grade schoolers to be inebriated. What a good mom!
A lot of Catholic girls I knew also liked to serve Communion after school, probably due to being mad about not having the same rights to be a priest and say Mass. They would cut out circles from white bread, with a cookie cutter and flatten them with water, and serve Communion. My girl cousins obviously had not any bottles of Mogen David one day and tried to simulate the wine bit, by using a bottle of cranberry juice, which they promptly spilled all over a white rug. What a mess! Hey, if drinking wine was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me and we both know it was not grape juice, because why would he go to a wedding at Cana and try to turn grape juice, uh...INTO GRAPE JUICE ANYWAY!
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No, Nip and if I hear you singing "One Tin Soldier" I might have to get out my personal Billy Club and end that aural monstrosity.