Vautrin
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2 hours ago, GordonCole said:
Trying to push this film into a noir mold, is just a waste of time. But as a showcase of a very talented little actor, like Billy Gray it was marvelous. That kid had real talent and brought the story home. You nailed it with your remarks about its mish-mash of genres.
It would take a lot of heavy lifting and squeezing to make this a noir for me. Yes, some
of the visuals are rather noirish, but if one shot one of those 1960s Doris Day virgin sex
comedies in that style it still wouldn't be a noir. Yes Billy Gray was good. FMC just showed
The Day the Earth Stood Still a few days ago and he was good in that too. I didn't think
his character was all that bad, just a regular kid who was super ****** that his dog had
been killed.
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1 hour ago, jakeem said:
Give the man credit. He actually turned 75 today!
Happy Birthday Keith. I remember reading a few reviews of Keith's autobiography
when it came out. It seems Keith was a bit of a bookworm, which is a good thing.
Glad you kicked that heroin habit. Um, you really did kick that heroin habit, right?
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Roxy Music had their only Number One U.K. hit with their cover of Lennon's Jealous
Guy, which they released as a tribute shortly after Lennon's death. As usual it went
nowhere in the U.S., though I'm not sure it was even released here. Whistle along
with Bryan.
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8 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
One I'VE heard a few times was their redoing and re-titling their old hit "Get Off Of My Cloud" to "Get Off My Lawn!"
AND passing out free samples of snortable Metamucil to all of their fans.
Sepiatone
Yes, there are lots of old Rolling Stones jokes. I like the Get Off My Lawn one. Then there are Is
Keith Richards still alive, he doesn't look like it. Poor guy.
I have several Fleetwood Mac albums and always enjoyed their music. Never really got into the
Stevie Nicks solo stuff except what I heard on the radio.
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10 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
My bad.
No biggie. It was 45 years ago. And leaving Roxy Music allowed Eno to make all those
great albums of the 1970s.
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Not to go all anale, but Eno played on the first two RM albums. And on a minor point,
RM went through bassists like Tap went through drummers, though minus the fatalities.
One more time if you please.
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7 hours ago, speedracer5 said:
I saw the Stones in 2005 and they were awesome! We decided to splurge on tickets and go figuring that it might be our last chance. Obviously (and fortunately), it wasn't!
Maybe that was an unintended marketing ploy. See the Stones because they may not be
around much longer. I still like the Stones, though I haven't bought a Rolling Stones'
album in decades.
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5 hours ago, midwestan said:
I agree with you on this one, Vautrin. It wasn't very noir-ish at all. The only casualty in the picture was a stray dog that had seemingly found a good home. I mean, I watched "The Robin Hood Trail" Saturday night and counted three guys who 'bought the farm'! You wouldn't think such tragedies would litter a Roy Rogers flick compared to a Noir Alley selection, but I guess that's just the magic of the movies, huh? ❓
Yes, a good bit of it was growing up on a farm and getting a dog to take care of. Nothing
wrong with that. It had its noirish moments, but to me it just didn't go full blast.
Entertaining enough, but sort of neither fish nor fowl.
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4 hours ago, misswonderly3 said:
Talk about mixing genres ! You make it sound like a collage of film stereotypes. I do see what you mean, but I also think the sum was more than its parts; it was a little better than "a bit of gothic haunted house trope, part stranger in town flick..." etc.
If you want to look at it one way, a lot of film genres are, in a simplistic manner, a collection of
cliches which movie goers learn about through experience watching them--women's pictures,
prison pictures, great white hunter movies, etc. Noir is a little harder to pin down, but there
are certain cliches that are usually there. This doesn't have to be a bad thing since many
directors rise about the simple cliches of a genre. While the main plot of TAAS is centered on
the stranger there is a lot of other stuff going on that isn't really related. A lot of mixing though
the focus is on the main point. And it's a story without any villains. I didn't think the kid was
that bad. He was greatly disappointed that his dog was killed and he went overboard in his
reaction, but I can understand that. He was just a kid. There was one close up where he looks
like he is possessed, but all's well that ends well. I saw a couple of episdoes of Father Knows
Best today, so maybe I'm prejudiced. Not a bad movie, but I just don't see it as a noir.
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I didn't find Talk About a Stranger very noir. It took me a while to remember that I had
seen it some time back. I find it to be more of a combo piece--a bit of a gothic haunted
house flick, the old stranger in town movie, the small town/gossip film, mom and dad
at home thing and a boy and his dog show. I was also reminded of parts of The Invaders
from Mars movie. Put those all together and you have a fairly entertaining movie, but not
one that seemed film noir for the most part.
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18 hours ago, jakeem said:
And get ready for The Rolling Stones' No Filter Tour in April. Naturally, they're appearing in stadiums.
I remember people joking about the Rolling Stones doing concerts in their wheelchairs and
that was some years ago. They're not there.....yet.
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Sure there were girls in that school. They all just happened to be in the maternity
ward at the time.
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4 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
Nicks actually very briefly left the band in the mid-90s. I think this has mostly been forgotten, even though the band put out a Nicks-free album in 1995, Time. The lineup for that album was Christine McVie, Dave Mason (formerly of Traffic), Bekka Bramlett (daughter of Delaney & Bonnie), Billy Burnette, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood. And they definitely weren't playing their usual arenas for that tour. I think they did a lot of festivals where they appeared fairly early on the bill. From what I've read, most people didn't even know ahead of time Nicks wasn't going to be there. Bramlett would do one or two of her songs. This was all before the big 1997 reunion show when Buckingham returned (and Nicks, although most people never even knew she was gone).
When a group has been around this long it's hard to keep up with all the changes, especially if
one is not a huge fan. I get occasional reminders from Song Kick about upcoming concerts and
it's still surprising how many old rock groups are still out there doing shows. The mid 1970s
and on version of FM is among the "younger" bands. I just got a reminder that Jethro Tull will
be on tour again, though Ian Anderson nixed any idea of more Tull a number of years ago.
Whatever.
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9 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
I've seen them live five times, and Stevie is definitely the big selling point. There's always a large contingent of the crowd that are groups of females going together, all dressed in similar style to her.
I'm sure there are a lot of Nicks' lookalikes at concerts, understandably so. But maybe they would
still do pretty well if she was not there for whatever reason.
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4 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
I'm sure it means more to me than it does most people. Buckingham's absence won't keep them from selling out arenas. Now, if Stevie Nicks was absent ...
I guess it all matters how many FM fans are more Stevie Nicks fans. It would be interesting
to see. For me it's hard to get too excited about a group that's been together (in this
configuration) for over forty years.
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I noticed a few years ago that the L.L. Bean catalog had a snowball making kit with a
little plastic scoop and other things that would produce the perfect snowball. I had
to LOL when I first saw it. It hasn't been in the recent catalogs so maybe kids can
still make snowballs on their own.
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18 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
Yes, I'm also a fan of that iteration of the band as well. Their ever-revolving membership is part of the band's legend, though it has been reasonably stable since 1975. It's pretty cool that Mick Fleetwood and John McVie have been providing the rhythm groove for half a century, no matter who the singers and songwriters were.
It has been a long time. 2018 is the fiftieth anniversary of their first album. Peter Frame
draws detailed "family trees" of rock groups. He has 10 versions of FM from 1967 to 1975
when the most popular lineup, with the addition of Buckingham and Nicks, came into
being. Since then it has been fairly stable. While I'm a fan I'm not really a mega fan so all
the back and forth about the Buckingham situation is of minor interest. These things
happen fairly often in all branches of show biz.
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Of course there was the pre-Buckingham/Nicks Fleetwood Mac of the late 1960s
and early 1970s. They were fairly successful in England, much less so in the U.S.
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1 hour ago, jakeem said:
No, it's official. The seven artists and/or groups will be inducted into the Hall of Fame on March 29, 2019 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. HBO traditionally airs an edited version of the event months later.
My mistake. I didn't read it carefully enough plus my mind is a little scrambled by the one and
only Christmas trip I made to the mall today.
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Hey, I actually recognize them all. Whoever winds up in the Hall, my favorites would be
Roxy Music and Radiohead.
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Ain't that a kick in the head.
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Pete Shelley, 63, vocalist and guitarist for the punk rock band the Buzzcocks, died last
week. I never got into the Buzzcocks, sticking mostly with the Sex Pistols and the Clash.
It seems that after their initial breakup they got back together a number of times like a
lot of groups do. Pete Shelley R.I.P.
Life, like a dome of many-coloured glass,
Stains the white radiance of Eternity,
Until Death tramples it to fragments.
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6 hours ago, GordonCole said:
Fabulous. Finally some culture for the mavens here. As for Durer, I'll steal the Mank line, there but for god, goes god.
Bringing a little bit of light to the gritty glum world of noir.
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1 hour ago, Dargo said:
Hmmm...can't tell if the guy looked more like Richard Chamberlain or Richard Kiley?
There is somewhat of a resemblance, though it doesn't really jump out at me. More than
one art critic has speculated that it was meant to look like Jesus Christ or at least Jesus
as Western artists saw him.
AND passing out free samples of snortable Metamucil to all of their fans.
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Took a quick trip over to YT and the print or whatever you want to call it of Christmas
Holiday is very good. Will watch it when I have some time. I don't mind watching movies
on YT if it is likely they won't be showing up anywhere else. My monitor died a few months
back and I got a new, larger one. That definitely helped.