Vautrin
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Aside from the silliness of the whole idea of masculinity having anything to do with what
beverage one drinks, one's first drink of coffee used to be a big deal. I remember having
a friend whose family made a big thing out of his sister having her first cup of coffee. I
guess she was 16 or 18. They went through a whole celebration of the event. You'd think
she had just graduated from college with honors.
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5 hours ago, TomJH said:
I saw The Sign of the Cross a few months ago. Feel free to unstick yourself with Landi. Elissa is one pious praying fully clothed Christian in this film.
The woman with the ape is clearly Sally Rand. Elissa Landi looks nothing like her.
This is Elissa's hottest moment in the film when Joyzelle dances the dance of the naked moon before her, with clear erotic overtones. But if you take a look at this shot you'll see that Landi's clothes remain fully intact.
Even Christians take their clothes off once in a while. I will wait until it shows up again, though
Biblical epics aren't my favorite genre. The dance of the naked moon looks more like the dance
of acid reflux, but maybe you had to be there.
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8 hours ago, TomJH said:
If you're referring to this lady, Vautrin, it is definitely NOT Elissa Landi. It's an unknown actress seen only briefly in The Sign of the Cross. Elissa remains fully clothed throughout the film.
Nor is it she in the ape photo, as Ham Radio has already explained that that is fan dancer Sally Rand.
Sally Rand is listed for the part of the crocodile's victim, uncredited, on imbd. I was only
referring to the woman menaced by the ape. I haven't seen the movie in a long time, so
I'll have to check it out if it shows up again on TCM. Until then, I'll stick with Landi.
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The scantily flower-clad lady in The Sign of the Cross who failed in her goal to convert
the ape to Christianity is Elissa Landi, an Austrian actress who appeared in a number
of Hollywood films in the 1930s.
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I couldn't figure out if Joan was showing or not. From one angle it looked like she
was, from a different angle, maybe not. I've seen it on another medium and then
it was an obvious yes, not so on my TV. Keep 'em guessing. Her first mistake was
letting sleazebag Duryea into her apartment. She should have called his bluff. But
nooooooo. Okay, the poison didn't pan out, but she could have had him back the
next night and tried another method. While the characters are similar to those in
Scarlet Street, there are some differences. Eddie isn't a henpecked, apron wearing hubby
with an old harridan for a wife, and Joan isn't as manipulative and untrustworthy as
she was. Dan is mostly the same old bastard though. Those gentlemen's clubs. Too
full of cigar smoke for my taste and you'd probably run across a lot of tiresome bores
too. You don't have to join a club to do that. And what's up with Gotham College?
A middle aged man who is only an assistant professor and then is promoted to head
of the psychology department. Bet it advertises on matchbooks covers and in the
back pages of The Police Gazette.
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Cartwright was from back East so his tastes may have been a bit more refined than if
he had been born in a Nevada mining camp. Then he made a pile of money and was
at home with all things frou-frou, which is not to say Ben didn't like a good belt of
whiskey too.
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5 hours ago, TheCid said:
To me, Joe should have shot all three of them in the back while they were watching the plane fly over. The police would not have questioned it at all - self-defense. Of course, he had to "wimp-out" to make it more suspenseful.
Yeah, he should have taken a chance to shoot them as soon as he could. Of course that would
have put a premature end to the movie, but it surely would have been satisfying, just as satisfying
as the girlfriend pumping McGraw full of lead at the end.
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10 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
In Hell's Half Acre (1953) They depicted a bullet to the head. I believe it's the actor Robert M. Luck but I;m not sure.
Don't think I've seen that one. Fairly graphic for the time, though nothing compared
to what they would do with it today.
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16 hours ago, Dargo said:
Yeah, I do remember seeing that one bullet hole in McGraw's shirt, and as I recall on the left side half way down his back, while he was crumpled on the floor. But, with no blood, of course.
(...and which might now beg the following question: Did they even have gunshot prop squibs back in '49?)
Maybe they had to settle for the chocolate sauce aftermath.
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1 hour ago, Dargo said:
Dude, don't forget here that this flick was made in 1949, and YEARS before that Warren Beatty/Fay Dunaway flick in particular would open the floodgates to visuals of graphic bloodshed being shown on the silver screen!
(...nope, not in 1949, anyway)
Yeah things were different in 1949. I was surprised they showed the bullet hitting McGraw
when he was already on the ground and you can see the impact it makes on his body, so
I'm not surprised they didn't show the next few bullets in the same way. In its own way
this would have been just as graphic as Bonnnie and Clyde, as you would have seen McGraw
getting it one shot at a time unlike the flurry of bullets that kill Bonnie and Clyde.
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5 hours ago, Dargo said:
Actually Vautrin, I'm pretty sure Clark Gable's old squeeze Virginia Grey DID pump more than just one bullet into McGraw, didn't she?
Didn't she shoot him once as he began to plead with her, and then again as he stumbled back and fell down? Or am I just imagining that?
(...and re Don McGuire's Joe character...yep, you're right on this count...the earlier scene where at one point McGraw has his back to him, I noticed myself yelling at the TV for him to pull out his gun and shoot the SOB in the back of the head when he had his chance...just goes to show ya that Durocher was right after all..."Nice guys DO finish last", huh!)
Yes. I think she shot him the first time and that put him on the floor. Then we see McGraw hit by
her second shot when he is down. Then they cut away to her gun when she fires another couple of
shots. It would have been much more graphic to see those bullets hit McGraw's body. I think Joe
was a bit green and didn't realize how bad the gang was, or else he would have shot them when
he had the chance. Finishing last in a very permanent way. No wait till next year.
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Poor dumb old Joe the van driver from The Threat. He had a gun and the crooks were asleep,
but Quick Draw McGraw managed to use Joe's innocence to talk him down and not surprisingly
then kill him. The only way to get rid of guys like McGraw was to take out that gat and shoot
him and his two buddies ASAP. But I can see why the kid didn't take that approach. Big mistake.
I didn't find The Threat much more cruel than many noirs. The short running time helped, as I
think things would have become boring in the hostage part of the movie if things had gone on
much longer. Cruel would have been watching his former girlfriend pump more than one bullet
into McGraw, but they stopped at one. Too bad.
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I remember when I was a kid the local channel afternoon movie would occasionally show
an Andy Hardy movie. I got kick out of them with the old time fashions and cars and
Andy's slang. They're still entertaining, but not as much as when I first saw them.
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Mommy did it. Mommy, mommy, mommy. I don't remember seeing this one before. Fairly
entertaining, though it gets a bit repetitious in the middle. Yeah, the nutso likes to go around
shooting women. We get it. I always love it when there is a short text introduction to a
movie that is basically an exploitation flick to make it seem as though it's really more of a
public service than a crime movie. Okayyyy. Some good visuals of the underbelly of SF
and whimsical ones of Eddie getting up close and personal with his rifle. Mommy. I thought
that might have been Wally Cox, though he wasn't in the scene very long. I suppose a
rat fink like Dmytryk was a bit of a sniper himself, targeting his former friends, though
with less lethal results.
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6 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
You can watch the TZB whenever you like it's featured at the end of BUtterfield 8
I only saw BUtterfield 8 once a while back, but when it turns up again I'll watch it, at
least the last few minutes.
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We used to cross the TZB over the river and through the woods to grandmother's (and
grandfather's) house every month or so. I will miss the old one no matter how the new
one looks.
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Well done and efficient for getting everything covered in one hour, and not feeling that
things were rushed. Another cop with a Murphy bed. Hmmm. And another scene that's
a bit risque but can't go too far due to the Code. Both feet on the floor now. The plot
isn't anything original, but good enough. I suppose there could have been a bit more
background on the Judge, but one look at four eyes and his ugly mug and that's a
shortcut way of saying Of course this guy's as nutty as they come, just take a look at
him. And in movies where the psychos are given more explain time, one grows weary
of the constant whining about mommy. Back in the days cops weren't as careful as
they are now. Twenty years later, Joe Friday wouldn't get caught wearing a pair of
gloves. That's for sissies. Or pot smoking hippies.
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On 10/21/2018 at 6:41 AM, Sepiatone said:
I'll have to pay more attention and remember to remember the name of the bank. I'm not thinking it's "corn hole" bank and Trust. But I'm reminded of what the phrase "corn hole" meant in the late '60's and into the '70's and why I can't take that recent GAME everyone seems to be playing serious.
It's the same reason I can't put anything called "pulled pork" and "pop rocks" in my mouth.
Sepiatone
Corn Hole was a joke. I'm sure it had Corn in the name somewhere. Quite often they
have events in this area and corn hole the game is listed as one of the attractions. I laugh
every time I see it. No thanks, I won't be going.
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I usually don't look ahead, waiting to be surprised a bit on Saturday night. I'm pretty sure
I haven't seen this one. Just that fact is a plus. So is this film was made without the
participation of any ice skaters. Hallelujah.
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7 hours ago, Hibi said:
I'm not familiar with that title either. We shall see!
I don't usually look to see what the noir film will be, but I took a peek. I haven't
seen it either, and if it turns out to be a lemon, you've only lost an hour of time.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
This one definitely wasnt! LOL.
Yeah, just have to wait till next week.
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7 hours ago, Hibi said:
Couldnt agree more! Talk, talk, talk. SNORE.
Yeah, it was hard to get very excited about this one, even with not having seen it before.
That long scene where she spends the night and they blather on for who knows how long
was deadly. A few good parts, but on the whole pretty mediocre. Hey, they can't all be
winners.
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2 hours ago, TheCid said:
I saw the ending coming as well, especially since she had broken in to his apartment once already.
I too wondered why a police lieutenant was living in a no bedroom "apartment."
What is the Cherry Orchard? Must have missed that.
I'm guessing a lot of film buffs saw that one coming, though it's more of the usual romantic
comedy ending. No big deal. Her spending the night in his place was a bit interesting, but of
course they couldn't do anything with it at that time. Eddie mentioned in his outro that Belita
was in a few plays after her movie career ended, including Chekhov's The Cherry Orchard. I
don't think they could have put an ice skating scene into that one.
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A new noir sub-genre--ice skating noir. Too slow and talky for the first hour. Things
improved a little when the lawyer was killed and Belita went on the run. I didn't think
she did any of the crimes she was accused of since she was one of the most mild-mannered
noir ladies around. Some of the visuals were good, but overall this thing was on the dull
side. And that corny Hollywood ending. I would complain about it more but I saw it coming
when Foster opened his apartment door, yep she'll be in there and she was. And couldn't
this poor guy even afford a bedroom? And Belita in The Cherry Orchard? Would have loved
to have seen that.
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Male stars drinking coffee or tea -- is it masculine?
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Even when it occurred it seemed a bit silly to me, but I was only about ten or eleven years old
so I didn't think that much about it. Yes, it's another minor rite of passage that has gone the
way of others. I was never much of a coffee drinker and now don't drink it at all. I have to
confess I drink tea during the cold months with lots of sugar, which is definitely not a good
thing.