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3 hours ago, kingrat said:
Actually, Alan Bates had a contract that specified no frontal nudity. All the frontal nudity in the wrestling scene is from Oliver Reed.
I didn't know that. I thought of Bates as a devil may care, up for anything
type of actor, but that's his right. Guess he had to go for backtal nudity.
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1 hour ago, CaveGirl said:
OMG, Vautrin! Being a fan of good old, D.H., I remember the first time I watched that film, I was almost embarrassed for that cutie Alan Bates during the [as you put it..."wrassling" scene] since it was incredibly revealing. Now I would expect Oliver Reed to relish such interplay but up to then Bates had been a bit more circumspect in films. Even the "firelight" was not disguising anything but just putting a warm, golden glow on all the proceedings. It made Glenda's scenes appear to be quite tame. I get a kick out of Lawrence's writing, since he has that same skill as Nabokov at getting sexual innuendoes into scenes which on the surface appear to only be talking about the usage of sporrans on one's kilt. Good show!
I haven't seen it in a number of years, so I can't recall all the details of what was
bared and to what degree. It was certainly something that couldn't have been
done five years before in a mainstream movie. In general I prefer Vlad to D.H.,
especially stylistically, though sometimes one can grow a bit tired of Nabokov's
almost too perfect manner. But both are worthwhile writers.
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Okay Callahan, what's up? I'm getting reports from Personnel
that you spend half your day talking to an empty chair.
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I check YT every once in a while to see if a newly uploaded Warhol or Fassbinder
flick turns up. They sometimes do. Not the best way to watch a movie, but better
than nothing. Donnie Brasco is good, though I tend to mix up these Mafia movies
with each other. I have the actual That Obscure Object of Desire on tape somewhere.
Maybe it was on TCM many years ago, can't remember.
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Speaking of nude rasslin', there is the Alan Bates Oliver Reed nudie non-cage
match in Women in Love. The boys clear out the furniture to the sides and
go at it in the all together. By the firelight we can see both men's glimmering
cheeks and every once in a while, a fleeting glimpse of their limp and bouncing
dinguses, as Sam Spade might have put it. For the non-wrestling fans there
are some nice shots of MP to be Glenda Jackson's berries. A flick truly with
something for everyone.
After Burr's nude scene they considered changing the name of the show to
Ironfront, but then decided not to.
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2 hours ago, CaveGirl said:
Or he could be Tiny Tim's doppelganger, Vautrin and got lost in a space continuum while singing "Tiptoe through the Tulpas" and he ended up in that Twin Peaks diner, dating Peggy Lipton because he had a crush on her doppelganger who was in the Mod Squad.
How about Tiny Tim having a man crush on Clarence Williams III? As for the first
scenario, it's okay, though I find it hard to picture Tiny Tim wearing a cowboy hat.
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8 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
Yes there is....Harry doesn't ATTACK innocent bystanders....he wants to nail the crooks through his own methods, however unconstitutional they may be.
Harry may not agree with the system, but he does want to protect the good people of San Francisco (though no argument his ways of doing it can be outright reckless at times).
That was mostly a facetious comment. I do recall that Pauline Kael got all
bent out of shape about the movie. And I would think that most people
would not approve of cops using unconstitutional methods in their work.
Harry is lucky he is not around these days when everyone has a cellphone.
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You're not too surprised when the older rockers in their 60s and 70s
die, but it is a shock when someone dies that relatively young. R.I.P.
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You mean there's a difference between a psycho and Dirty Harry?

I do prefer Harry's haircut to Bullitt's.
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6 hours ago, Hibi said:
LOL. I remember it being ok. As in not bad. Probably would watch it again (as I forgot the plot!)
I think I saw it two or three years back and I've forgotten a lot of the
plot details too. I remember that posed photo of Georgie dressed up
by a desk with a big shelf full of books in the background.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
Oh, that's right! I forgot about that. And Diana Dors was in it! (How could I forget HER??? LOL).
I'll bet George couldn't forget her either. Now if he had been younger...
Not a bad picture, but nothing very special. I found the British bookstore
setting to be interesting, more so than if it had taken place in an Amazon
dsitibution center.
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Brenty boy starred in the early 1950s British flick The Last Page, playing a
bookstore manager who, innocently, got messed up with all kinds of criminal
activities. And to top things off, the U.S. title was Man Bait. Now that has to
a noir.
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McCarthy had two or three different numbers of supposed communists.
I believe 57 might have been one of them and also the fewest number.
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I thought the early scenes about brainwashing might be satirical. Not
sure if it was a satire about brainwashing or womens' garden clubs.
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The only movie financed and directed by Eddie Fisher.
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Soft core after 10 p.m.
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10 hours ago, rayban said:
If that's true - and, it is true - then the boy with green hair will have a terrible time in getting "his message" across.
Well, then, maybe he won't, and just remain "bald".
But, then, the film becomes pointless, right?
Whatever you may think about the film - a boy's "fantasy" or a "true story" - it does have a very strong anti-war message.
I really don't get Ben Mankiewicz's contention that a film like this could have led to Joseph Losey's troubles with HUAC.
I haven't seen the movie in a while, so I don't recall all the details. But besides the
there's nothing wrong with being different theme, there is a strong anti-war message
of course. To HUAC that might have been enough. Anti-war, sounds kind of commie
to me.

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I always thought one of the rather obvious messages is that people
will dislike things that are out of their normal range of thought and
experience, like a boy with green hair, that is a boy (or girl) who is
different from others.
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My own tulpa tells me that Tulsa Time is not really set in Tulsa. It's about
a guy who left Tulsa and headed west and now wishes he was back in
Tulsa. If he was in Tulsa he wouldn't need to set his watch to Tulsa time.
Yes, the tulpa knows.
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6 hours ago, limey said:
That's why the films play down the specifics of Nick's previous employment, other than his knowledge and his vast array of contacts with members of the police & with the generally more likeable rogues of the naughty-doing-fraternity.
I was being somewhat facetious as the Pinkertons were well known as
strike breakers. I will say that the Thin Men movies are intricately plotted.
I've seen most of them over the years and it would be a lot easier if one
watched the last ten minutes first so one could understand the plots, that
is if one had already seen it once before.
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17 hours ago, Dargo said:
Oh, I think they would.
And because I think Her Majesty became a little more "mellow" herself after Diana's untimely death.
(...well, at least according to that flick I saw about her starring that still sexy at 72 Mirren dame...err, Dame)
Mellow is not a word I associate with QE II, but after a few sherries, who knows.
I saw one of Helen's early flicks a few months ago with a lot of that "gratuitous"
nudidity in it. Mirren is built like a brick loo.
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Somehow I can't picture Nick Charles as a strike breaker,
unless the strike was against a gin distillery.
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I suppose that would also be more evidence of the frontal nudity
personal prohibition.