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4 hours ago, EricJ said:
That, and varsity-boy Harold trying out his 20's-football cheers: "Hi-ta-ticky! Bing-bang-blooey! T-A-T-E, zip-chop-suey!"
While we see his puzzled dad downstairs listening to the shortwave radio: "I've just tuned in on China!"Yeah, I can't say I'm a big silent film fan, but The Freshman is hilarious. Hard to beat the premise of a
nerdy guy like Harold trying to be a big football star and a BMOC. Goooooo Tate.
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4 hours ago, Hibi said:
In a review I just read on imdb (the first one that comes up), it details some of the cuts from the original. One of these is the dialog between Young and Hayward in the drive to her apt. so you are correct about that. The cuts were made when the film was re-released in 1957. The original cut is on DVD and I don't understand why TCM doesnt show it. So much for uncut and commercial free!
Another review a few reviews later mentions Rita Johnson's accident a few years later, (which I didnt even know about) that Eddie didn't mention at all. Very disappointing.
Well, at least my memory is working. Hayward tells Young that Trenton wants to marry her and Young
replies What's wrong with that? Nothing she says, if you like drive-ins, 35 cent movies and longgg walks
in the park. Ouch. I thinks it's a dodge to say that they ran the reissued film and not the original version,
especially as 15 minutes was cut out of a 95 minute movie.
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D lee Ted.
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While clicking around the internet I came across a brief scene from TWBM. It's the one where Hayward
is sitting in Young's car. He is surprised to see her and gets in and drives her home. She mentions that
Trenton has proposed to her and also what a cheap date he is. I don't recall that dialogue. I might
have forgotten it or it may have been part of what was excised from the original film. They probably cut
out lots of short pieces from the original and not big chunks of it.
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The Freshman has one of my favorite title cards, Tate University~A large football stadium with a
college attached.
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Jim Anderson was never going to be a first-class cad of the money grubbing variety. Stick to the
insurance biz. But he must have really fallen for Susan Hayward because when she showed up with
the $25,000 uncashed check he tore it up and they went on their merry way. I would have dumped
her on the spot. That is what lovely Rita should have done much earlier. She was either an idiot or
a masochist to keep Young around. Give this dirtbag his walking papers, honey. I didn't think the
three women were particularly well-rounded characters. They were, for the most part, fairly obvious
types. The plot was rather confusing. By the end of the flick, I had even forgotten whose murder he
was on trial for. Too many flashbacks that confused one's sense of time. And if he was away for what
seemed like a long period of time wasn't there the possibility his wife's body would have been, er,
fed upon by the wild creatures in the very rural area. leaving not much but bones? This is the kind
of movie I would like to see again just to get more plots points clear. Of course cutting about 15
minutes out of it didn't help matters any. Oh, the cop shooting Bobby as he suicided out the window?
Even back in 1947, cops had a license to kill. I think it would have been more interesting if Young had
met a rastaman in Jamaica, smoked a little herb and gone native. Bobby Dread.
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Wiki and imbd have the running time of TWBM at 95 minutes. The 80 minute version was the
reissued one. I happened to come across Eduardo's intro and outro on YT from October of 2017
when it was shown on Noir Alley when it was only on Sunday mornings. There is also a little
known remake, the subgenre Mets' noir titled You Gotta Believe Me.
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5 hours ago, Hibi said:
I think she was trying to mask it, but it slipped through at times (accent). I'd totally forgotten about her tv series! I think it only lasted half a season. I'm not sure I even saw it. (I don't think I owned a tv at the time). I think she could've had a more substantial movie career is she devoted more time to it. She spent a lot of her career on the London stage, then took time off for motherhood.
Yes, every once in a while a British pronunciation would get out. I think her range of work speaks for itself, even
if she never became a movie star. I had a TV in 1973, but I don't remember watching that show. I might have watched
it once just out of curiosity. It was likely just another mediocre sitcom. The Hospital was a little confusing because
Barnard Hughes played two roles--her father and the surgeon seen toward the end of the movie. I was saying to myself
Wait a minute, what's going on here?
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5 hours ago, EricJ said:
At the late-60's/early-70's time, NOBODY liked them. By the early 70's, they were the attention-struck, off-message Black Lives Matter of their day.
Although the terrorist group that gets their own reality-TV show in Network (1976), and starts arguing over ratings points, while the white rich suburban Patty Hearst pretend-terrorist still tries to protest the "cause", was a perfect Chayefsky skewering.
I did. Sure, there were some loudmouths who didn't put a lot of thinking into what they were saying and
sometimes dipped into sloganeering, but the underlying message of continuing discrimination and
segregation was an important one. Of course after the Vietnam War ended, obviously anti-war protests
ended. You need a war to protest. I have no problem with BLM or Antifa.
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16 hours ago, Dargo said:
Yep, and this very thing was my lament when I first posted in this thread.
I also found it interesting in that interview she did about 5 years ago and which Tom posted a few pages back, that she herself mentioned this and brought up the cast of the hit TV series 'Friends' and all their relative lack of more work and success on the big screen, and as a correlative comment to her own lack of a more extensive movie career.
Of course sometimes actors just prefer the stage or TV to movies. I don't know if that is Rigg's case or if she
was just not able to get worthwhile movie roles. I had forgotten she had a short-lived sitcom on American
TV titled........Diana. Watching The Hospital I couldn't quite figure out if she was trying to do an American
accent. Sometimes it sounded like she was, at other times she sounded English. I got the impression that
Chayefsky really didn't like the protesters of the 1960s and 1970s. Of course they can be made fun of, but
it seemed to go beyond that and became rather mean-spirited.
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5 hours ago, Dargo said:
Uh-huh, AND I saw it once a long time ago, almost 50 years ago or so and when it first released, and so it'll be even MORE "almost like new" to ME!
(...man am I gettin' old)

Newer new. Everyone's getting old er. As they say, time moves in one direction.
I was surprised how few films Diana Rigg was in.
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1 hour ago, Vautrin said:
Most people likely are aware of this, but Diana Rigg will be on TCM tonight in The Hospital (1971)
at 11:30, co-starring George C. Scott. I saw it once a long time ago, maybe 15 years or so, so it will be almost
like new.
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Deletion surgery.
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Yes, Mickey would have been 100 years old this year. That's 348 in ham years.
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I know this wasn't the message that the director wanted to show in The Rain People, but to me
this flick just proves you can't drive ten miles in the U.S. without running into idiots, con men,
and dumb cops.
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2 hours ago, TomJH said:
I pretty well agree with everything you say (particularly the Glenn Ford character being a jerk part) but Gilda was, of course, a huge hit at the box office right after the war.
And, my God, when Rita sensually moves around on a swanky dance floor or does a "naughty" one glove strip tease . . .
. . . is there anyone who can take their eyes away?
If there is only one reason this film deserves a repeat viewing it's for the sight of Rita Hayworth at the zenith of her career as a sex goddess. She really was remarkable.
Yes, Rita is ravishing in this movie and the Blame It On Mame scene is totally sexy. And visually the film is first
rate. On the first viewing it's intriguing and entertaining. But for me once one knows how things will turn out
it loses a lot of steam, even with Rita turning on the heat.
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Even though I didn't agree with his politics, I'm sorry to hear that Stephen Bannon has died.

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I didn't even bother to watch Gilda. Seen it a number of times and it never did much for me.
It's an okay flick, just never got into it. Rita is in fine form and Macready is creepily cold as
the villain of the piece. Glenn Ford's character is kind of a tiresome jerk. I wish someone
would shut him up or just bump him off, but then you wouldn't have much of a picture.
And that waiter kum philosopher dude, Captain Peepee or whatever his name is. God is he
annoying. Take the orders and shut the **** up. The first go round isn't too bad, but once
you know the plot it loses a lot of interest. And Glenn spending half the picture trying to
figure out if Rita is screwing other guys, pretending to screw other guys, not screwing
other guys, or screwing herself. Dull. Dull. Dull. I'm sure everyone concerned gave it the old
college try, but they just came up woefully short.
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I always enjoyed those episodes where they wound up in a deserted village and there was no one
around as if everyone had suddenly left. Of course there was always some strange skulduggery
that eventually explained everything.
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Okay, I saw The Avengers movie when it came out. Naturally I went because I was a fan of the TV
show and was curious to see how the movie would play it. I don't recall much about it as it was
over twenty years ago. While it wasn't a total disaster it was a major disappointment. Somebody
could have made a better movie, but it would have been difficult to equal the quality of the TV
show in a 90 minute film. I would like to see it again just for the heck of it.
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Pull one tassel for yes, pull two tassels for no, pull three tassels if you need to use the restroom.
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Rigg was in two seasons/series. Blackman was in two seasons/series, though she shared her first season
with other actresses. Thorson was in one season/series. Much of the first s/s is "lost." I remember first
seeing The Avengers on ABC when it ran the Emma Peel color episodes. I think they were on Friday nights,
though I wouldn't swear to it.
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3 hours ago, ElCid said:
Actually I wondered why Erdman showed up as a midshipman. The war was over, was the Navy really looking for more officer candidates? Was he on his way to the US Naval Academy? Doubtful.
I wouldn't want to serve on any ship he was on.
I think it was just a quick way to have a happy ending.
The younger sister likes Erdman again with his more mature attitude and look, and Bruce Bennett
finally asks for a date with Emerson on his half dozenth try. And mama can look forward to two weddings.
I doubt the producers and director gave much thought to why Erdman was in the Navy beyond the happy
ending scenario.
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Squeeze Box.
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I Just Watched...
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There are so many funny scenes and set-ups. And for most of the movie Harold is unaware that people
are laughing behind his back at his over the top Joe College routine. But all ends well and his sweetheart
loves him.