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Vautrin

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  1. I didn't mean to compare a rape to a pot bust. I was focused on comparing a fact to a rumor. Certainly a pot bust is much less serious than a rape, though to be clear in this case we are talking about the rumor of one.
  2. Especially Star Trek. I likely wouldn't have realized it if I hadn't been watching the WWW reruns and did a little googling around to refresh my memory. I believe that for a while they both ran on Friday nights, though at different times and on different networks. Another interesting bit of trivia is that during the first season when the cartoon cowboy is threatened by the saloon girl with a knife in the illustrated opening he kisses her and she is overcome. In later seasons the cowboy slugs her and knocks her down.
  3. A number of movie stars have things that don't redound to their glory. You likely wouldn't have had a tribute thread to Robert Mitchum after he died without mentioning his pot bust or one to Alfred Hitchcock without mentioning some rumors about him. It's all part of the show biz merry go round. Of course the Kirk Douglas-Natalie Wood situation is only a rumor, but in the era of #MeToo it takes on a certain added interest.
  4. Actually Star Trek ended the same time as The Wild Wild West as Trek only ran three seasons. Of course a lot of the actresses who appeared on both shows were familiar faces who appeared in many TV shows of that era. I remember the Antoinette Bower episode. She played a wild animal trainer who was a bit on the dominatrix side, part of a deadly circus with the head man having some plan to take over the world or part of it. Barbara Eden was also in a WWW episode, though she wasn't in Star Trek. There were also a number of actors who played President Grant. In the later seasons of the program it became more like a western with some of the crazy villains and their hardware toned down and more typical western setting like small towns and saloons with West wearing more typical western stuff not the fancy dan vests and jackets he wore earlier, though those still showed up.
  5. That's the dilemma of the old Hollywood stars. One side of the coin was the good pr and the other was the negative kind. When you're a public figure you have to put up with both. I don't see anything wrong with bringing up speculation on that small part of Douglas' life. It's all part of the whole and the tributes have far outweighed the topic of Natalie Wood.
  6. FETV is running it on weekday afternoons. It's still fairly entertaining and was certainly different from the usual 1960s western, with all the gadgetry and villains trying to take over the world, though the latter got a bit tiresome after a while. And West had everything in his shoe heel but the Mona Lisa. Conrad did appear without a shirt in many episodes and he certainly was buff, at least for that era. Even Ross Martin would go shirtless on occasion, but no need to talk about that. I don't believe that Dr. Loveless actually died in the last episode he was in, though I was always hoping the little bastard would get his.
  7. I mean that the fact that Natalie signed Kirk's personal home walk of fame is not evidence that he didn't assault her. We now know that friendly behavior between a victim and her victimizer is possible, however contradictory that seems to common sense.
  8. I'm not surprised that a guy like Mitchum, born in 1917, might be somewhat racist. Most people were back in that day. And it's hard to argue that using the n word, even in a "complimentary" way, is the sign of a non-racist. I still wouldn't mind having a couple of blasts at the bowling alley with Bob....as long as he's paying.
  9. Folks tend to idolize the old time movie stars, understandably so since in a certain way they were larger than life. But that doesn't mean they didn't have human flaws and did bad things just like other people.
  10. I saw it too. It was a little weird that Kirk had his own walk of fame. Back in the day people would have seen Natalie signing it as proof that there had been no assault because how could anyone do something like that for someone who had assaulted her. Now we know that is not necessarily so, so her signing it proves nothing to me. This is something that people will have to make up their own minds about.
  11. As people now understand, the fact that Natalie Wood signed Kirk's slab is not evidence of anything.
  12. I was referring to Sheldon's later career as a best-selling novelist. TBATB is a wonderful movie, deserving of an Oscar for its screenplay.
  13. Yeah, let's get back to the real Issur. Kirk baby was also a novelist. I even found a copy of Last Tango in Brooklyn, Mr. D's third novel, in the house. Apparently it was quite a wonderful book. Noted literary critic Larry King sez "The man is a flat-out-terrific storyteller." The contemporary author who most resembles Henry James, Sidney Sheldon, notes "Kirk Douglas has carved out a brilliant new career." The Seattle Times writes "A solid writer who moves the story along quickly." I don't know about that one. Sounds like they're glad someone made their hero sandwich very quickly. I'm starting to feel like I'm at a wake, though I don't think Mr. D was Irish. Drinks on me.
  14. One of my aunts went to school with Kirk in Amsterdam, NY. She died a few years ago. Of course I would have preferred that Kirk went first. Now, in a small way, I feel the account has been closed.
  15. Maybe it just seemed like a full season. Mayberry being such a small town with little crime, guess another deputy wasn't needed. With no deputy, characters like Howard, Goober, and Emmett got more time.
  16. Just eleven. Those appearances were in the first half of the season. I don't think there was ever a reason given for why Warren suddenly disappeared from Mayberry, he was just gone.
  17. I know I saw Last Summer on TCM a fairly long time ago. Don't remember too many of the details. It did do a good job of representing the odd one out theme and was better than many of the young generation flicks of the late 60s and early 70s.
  18. There seem to be many fans who never took to Warren, maybe because they thought no one could replace Don Knotts and also because he was a rather annoying character. He was okay. I got more laughs out of Howard Sprague and his mother than Warren. Andy Griffith said they thought the character would work but he didn't and said it was his fault and not Jack Burns'.
  19. I don't recall the Fridays sketch, though it was mentioned in the obit. I didn't see anything in the local paper and only found out about it because it was mentioned on one of The Andy Griffith Show fan websites which I look at once in a while.
  20. It has not been a good time for Burnses. Jack Burns passed away on January 27, 2019 at age 86. For a brief time he was a comedy duo with George Carlin and for a longer time with Avery Schreiber. He didn't do too many movies, and was mostly on TV. He may be best remembered for his role as Deputy Warren in The Andy Griffith Show. He took over after Don Knotts left the show, but Warren, with Burns' catchphrase huh...huh,...huh, didn't last too long. He only appeared for 11 episodes in the 1965-66 season. His later career was mostly behind the cameras.
  21. I don't think he would have many problems with an American accent and the age thing shouldn't be too much of a problem, Burton being younger than Mitchum. He could take the Leamas character from TSWCIFTC, tone it down and work it up to Marlowe. Even if it didn't work, I would like to see it. Liz has the heft for Malloy, but she lacks the stature. She would be perfect for the Sylvia Miles part, just like Martha but with a wardrobe change. What a DUMP.
  22. I would have loved to see Burton tackle the part of Marlowe, just to see how it turned out. He too would have been a bit too old to play Marlowe, though he was about ten years younger than Mitchum.
  23. Maybe Thou shalt not pee in the pool should be the 11th commandment.
  24. An interesting caveat to vinyl v. CD sales. While vinyl will likely outsell CDs in terms of revenue, in terms of units sold, CDs will sell twice as many in numbers as records do. This is mostly due to the fact that records now cost much more than CDs.
  25. And if there were some wise-cracking swell looking dames and the guys got into fisticuffs and liked to shoot their guns on occasion, where's the harm?
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