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Vautrin

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  1. 1 hour ago, Hibi said:

    Why bother? (with all the good parts cut out). Yeah, I'm sure by today's standards it's not that shocking.

    I think CBS did it for the shock value and the publicity it would garner. Just like Midnight Cowboy was

    downgraded from X to R, and though The Damned was more explicit than Cowboy, it's hardly an X

    film.

  2. I'm surprised Marlowe was driving a 1940 car in 1941 as he always seems to be one case away from

    going bankrupt. Of course DiMaggio's hitting streak isn't mentioned in the novel since it was published

    the year before DiMaggio's streak. It does give some detail to the narration and is discussed between

    Marlowe and his pal the newsdealer. I'm glad the latter only got beat up and not killed as so often happens

    to innocent bystanders. There also isn't much of the intellectual side of Marlowe as there is in the novels.

    No chess playing or references to highbrow literature, but that is a minor quibble that does nothing to

    take away from the movie.

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  3. 8 hours ago, Hibi said:

    I hadn't realized she had been in The Damned. TCM was supposed to show it a year or so ago and it got pulled. I've never seen it. A lot of those I looked up trying to find the right film looked like European productions/stories.

    It was quite controversial for its sexual content when it first came out, though the original X rating was later

    changed to an R, which seems about right. By later standards it's not really an X rated flick. CBS ran it in the

    early 1970s on its late night movie program and had to cut out all the "good" parts, but it got a lot of publicity

    at the time. 

  4. 7 hours ago, Hibi said:

    Yeah, I recorded that. I'll check imdb and see if I can find it.

    After checking I think it was Angel Heart from the 80s. Man, she made a lot of movies. Many I've never heard of. Took awhile.

    I looked at her filmography and she has made a lot of movies, and is still pretty busy in her mid 70s. I'm guessing a

    lot of them are on the mediocre side. She was also in an earlier Nazi pervy movie, Visconti's  The Damned from 1969.

    That one took place entirely in the Third Reich years. 

  5. In one episode of TMTMS Mary shows Lou something she has written as a personal project. He looks it

    over and tells her it isn't really that good. Then he pulls an old paperback out of his desk drawer and

    reads that passage from Red Wind, though he leaves out the last sentence. 

  6. Yes it was. She became kind of a sidekick to Marlowe. The Mitchum version did take more liberties with the

    novel than the earlier one.  A conman was okay in the 1940s version, but by the 1970s it was okay to change

    him into a madame. Apparently Rampling's geezer hubby didn't care too much if she was cheating on him,

    as he just leaves after he sees them kissing. I can't think offhand of that 1970s movie, but she was in The

    Night Porter last night. I saw it many years ago but after the first half hour I decided to hit the hay. 

  7. I thought the Mitchum version was pretty good and although he was a lot older than Marlowe was

    supposed to be it really didn't matter that much and, for whatever reason, he didn't look that old

    to me. In the book Amthor is a man and he runs some kind of occult/mental health sanitarium scam

    which allows him to dope up Marlowe, which seems to happen in most of the novels and leads to amusing

    prose about dancing mice, etc.  Changing him into a madame allows for some superficial nudity. 

    Anne Riordan who meets Marlowe at the drop off point after he comes to is totally absent from the

    Mitchum version, which is too bad because she was kind of a comic burr/love interest in the book.

    I'm sure there are other differences, but those two are the most obvious I can think of. Chandler is

    confusing enough as it is without trying to figure out all the differences between the novel and the

    move adaptations.  And Sylvia Miles surely deserved her Academy Award nomination.

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  8. Two movies for the price of one. A meat and potatoes crime flick that transforms into a social message flick

    about the evils of yellow journalism and the social and economic roots of crime, per Dr. Vito. Bridges wears

    silk shirts and platinum cuff links, yet he lives in a dumpy motel. Obviously he doesn't have a steady income.

    I can understand Lovejoy joining in the crime spree as he is desperate for cash and he's just the wheel man, which

    means that Lloyd takes all the chances. I'm surprised a egotistic nutcase like Lloyd lets him take half the proceeds. 

    But yes ,these guys are pretty stupid when it comes to crime. Lloyd leaves the ransom note in a menu. D'uh. I

    thought the manicurist was kind of cute, though obviously very needy. Be fun to see how she would be in a

    true relationship. I know the jail break in by the mob is based on a true story, but the whole idea of these guys

    breaking into this fortress like jail seemed not very believable and I really can't buy it. On the whole it's a pretty

    decent movie, with the message ending not doing too much to ruin the overall story. I didn't find it that grim,

    because it's so obviously contrived. Same with Bridges' psycho character. And yes, Lovejoy should have at

    least been able to get a job as a Boston cop and then collect a penchin, as one of the salesman says in the

    documentary Salesman. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, TomJH said:

    It's a bad film if you're a fan of gila monsters.

    Or crooked labor contractors, not that they have many fans. While the gila monsters' bite is very painful,

    it's not fatal. Maybe Howard was getting a laugh at Dobbsey by exaggerating the danger of gila monsters.

  10. I always get a kick out of the scene where the three are in the tent at night. One goes out to take a

    "look see." When he comes back, the next one goes out to do the same. When he comes back, the

    last one goes out for the same reason, to make sure his goods are undisturbed, just as the others

    did. Then Huston says something like If you fellows are satisfied I won't start start again.

  11. 3 hours ago, TopBilled said:

    The British version of All in the Family, which I mentioned in an earlier post (called Till Death Us Do Part) was even more topical. Supposedly the creator/headwriterJohnny Speight would not turn in his scripts until the week of filming. And sometimes he would be rewriting scenes right up to the taping. He wanted the show to be as current and in the moment as possible. Of course, Lear wasn't that extreme with his productions.

    Now that's uber topical. Wonder if the cast got a little miffed with that approach. I've seen most of those live recreations

    of All in the Family that run occasionally. They're fun to watch, and while they can recreate the scripts, they obviously

    can't recreate the 1970s, forgive me, zeitgeist. 

  12. 8 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:

    You're right.  Small communities are often controlled by a wealthy family or a company that employs a large majority of the residents. When greed takes over, these controlling forces sometimes subvert the law and the residents are powerless to do anything about it.  They just go along to get along. There have been countless novels, movies and TV shows about this dynamic.

    However. many think Invasion of the Body Snatchers was a thinly veiled statement about the spread of communism. I can see that take as well.

    Yes that theme of a small town being run by a few families or a company has been popular for a long time, maybe

    because it's something that a lot of people can recognize from their own experience. There can be two opposite

    takes from Invasion of the Body Snatchers (besides others). It's about communism or it's about McCarthyism.

    Take your pick. Even on its own it's a very good film.

  13. Maude is on FETV, but I don't think I could take Maude on a second go around. A little of Maude went

    a long way. Maude tackled a lot of contemporary subjects just like All in the Family. That's why these

    shows seem dated more than other "regular" sitcoms that just look dated for their clothing and

    slang.  The Mary Tyler Moore Show was usually non-political, though it did have the occasional Nixon/

    Watergate joke. I watch Green Acres on the weekends. It's still corny, but it's still kind of funny with

    Oliver being the only normal person trying to live among the crazies of Hooterville. 

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  14. 3 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:

     I had exactly the same thoughts. It reminded me of Invasion of the Body Snatchers too.

    The movie also hit fairly close to home for me.  I was raised in a small town and back in the late 60s several "respectable" small businessmen were dealing drugs on the side. Everyone suspected it, but no one spoke up until a  young newly elected sheriff decided to do something. He wasn't able to get the businessmen. However, he was able to bust the unsavory guys that were their suppliers and destroy their drug lab. Unfortunately, not before a couple my former high school buddies who got caught up in the ring  were murdered.  I was off in college when most of this happened  so I don't know if the sheriff was ever able to prove the dealers killed my friends.

    Just substitute organized crime for aliens and leave out the seed pods. I'm sure there are quite a few small towns

    and small cities where hidden things are going on, if not as serious as what occurred in the movie or what you

    experienced.  Now it's often about opioids. 

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  15. Pretty entertaining, if not that original. Reminded me a bit of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

    A town is increasingly menaced by a force it at first doesn't  recognize and ends with the two

    main characters running for their lives. Uncle Ira is no longer mowing the lawn, he's running

    a bookie joint.  Yeah, many of the people didn't seem to understand that the mafia plays for

    keeps and doesn't fool around. But all's well that ends well. I liked the scenes that illustrate

    the power relations of small city politics. As Eddie mentioned, Keufauver hoped that appearing

    in this flick might help his political campaign for the presidency. But Adlai Stevenson wasn't

    about to be fooled. Adlai played a piebald horse in High Noon. Checkmate.

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