Vautrin
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My cable provider at the time had AMC before TCM came along and for some time afterwards.
Bob was indeed a very friendly presence on the channel. He was not as knowledgeable about
studio eras films as Osborne, but he did have a genuine enthusiasm for them. I don't recall
too many details about his intros and outros after all these years. I do have an old VHS tape
of Sudden Fear when it ran on AMC, but I'm not sure exactly where it is.
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2 hours ago, speedracer5 said:
She also married her step son! o.O
Regardless of whatever proclivities she may have had, I really like Gloria Grahame's persona in films. She was right at home in noir. Even her small part in Odds Against Tomorrow is memorable. Her role in The Big Heat is especially unforgettable. She also spiced up It's a Wonderful Life playing the town floozy.
Annette Bening did a great job portraying an older Grahame in Stars Don't Die in Liverpool.
Yes, even for Hollywood that was pretty bizarre, though there is some disagreement about when
their relationship started. I've always liked Gloria and thought she was very sexy, and definitely
so in her small role in Odds Against Tomorrow. Upstate bank robbery? No longer interested. I
came across an interesting bit of trivia I hadn't known before. Gloria was a sister-in-law to a
brother of Bob Mitchum's. It's a small world after all.
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2 hours ago, TomJH said:
She might if he said he'd like to pin her down.
Looks like she's already been pinned. Unless cigarjoe is into necrophiliac rasslin' he
might be out of luck.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
Yeah, that's a good title for an area........
I think it hits the nail on the head, figuratively speaking of course.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
Regarding Route 66, Did George Maharis ever come back to the show after he became ill? Or did Glenn Corbett remain on the show till it ended?
I think he came back the first time but the second time he was gone for good. I think his
last episode was about midway through the third season. I don't know about Buz. Today
he was in a girl's apartment and she told him there were cold beers in the fridge. So he
gets one out and doesn't even ask her if she wants one. Maybe some of that Zen stuff is
messing up his mind.
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9 hours ago, TheCid said:
Possibly my favorite parts. I frequently look up some of the motels, hotels, businesses, etc. featured in the shows to see if still there. Most aren't. Season Three, episode 28 took place on a man-made island in St.Petersburg, FL area. Tod is selling plots for new houses and Linc (Buz's successor) is working building sea walls so they can build more houses. They end up driving racing boats for competing rich young women - neither is a blonde - Janice Rule and Susan Kohner. Kohner was in a couple of episodes and I really like her. She appears to be one of those young actresses of the Natalie Wood type.
I stumbled across a site that gives detailed info on all the locations that appear in the series
with then and now photos and other info about the locations. I don't recall the name but
if one googles Route 66 (the TV show) it will pop up on page one. As you say, most of the
buildings are gone. Janice Rule was in an episode recently where she played a woman who
worked for the family boat business near Boston. I think this one is a different episode
from the one with Susan Kohner. I've noticed a strange thing about the episodes on
FETV. First the title Route 66 is shown, then a bit later the title of the episode. Then they
go to a commercial and when the commercial is over they show the title of the episode a
second time. I've never seen that on a TV show before.
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11 hours ago, TomJH said:
I'll say she's odd. She's got a broach pinned to her skin.
We know that Gloria was a little kinky, so maybe she was into a bit of s & m.
Don't hurt me, daddy. Don't hurt me, daddy. Oh daddy, hurt me, hurt me.
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11 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
I'd do her....
Not to be rude, but would she want to be done?
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Right wing nutjobs on parade.
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I always thought Gloria was hot, odd or not.
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2 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
Sort of something similar to the Early 50s seasons of Dragnet. You get a lot of the L/A. you see in 50s film Noir.
I've never seen the 1950s version of Dragnet, just the unintentionally hilarious late 1960s version,
but I'm sure you're right that you get to see a lot of L.A. as it was at that time. Watching Route
66 makes you realize how much the country has changed in the past 60 years.
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Speaking of Route 66 and the JFK assassination, one of today's episodes took place in
Dallas and Tod and Buz work at the Trade Mart and Love Field is shown at the start.
Buz is kidnapped by a religious nut who intends to kill him. A little spooky.
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3 hours ago, TheCid said:
I don't like the color episode. Somehow it just doesn't fit. I think the people involved didn't like it either.
I guess being the only color episode in the series it seems out of place, but I did like the look of
the color, though the episode itself is nothing special. It was a bit like a Dragnet plot, only missing
Friday's closing straighten up and fly right lecture.
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6 hours ago, Hibi said:
Wow. I didnt know there was a color episode. I never saw that one. So it was on 9 seasons then? I know, the plots are confusing enough w/out editing out parts.
Yes it was one from season 9. I've read that it was done as a test to see how the show
would look in color in anticipation of a tenth season. I thought it looked pretty good.
Tonight's first season episode has one sexy blonde and one sexy brunette, though the
sexy blonde is several inches taller than the sexy brunette. (Hold it, another sexy blonde
babe just showed up). As a bonus Aunt Bee (Frances Bavier) is also in it. She plays an
aunt of the sexy brunette and an old friend of Perry's. One of those old TV friends that
we've never seen before and will never see again.
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6 hours ago, TheCid said:
I've got Route 66 on DVD and frequently watch episodes. Until I got the DVD I had not remembered how serious the episodes were, for the most part. Nor that Tod and Buzz got into fights with someone else almost every episode. Surprisingly a lot of fairly big name stars (Joan Crawford) appeared on it. Also, only two episodes actually took place on Route 66. The first few episodes were in southern MS and Louisiana. All shows were filmed on location around the country and two episodes in Canada. Florida was popular the last two years.
I think Perry is on MeTV every day also. At one time, they showed it twice per day.
I missed the original run of Route 66. It was either on too late or I was playing outside,
so it was refreshing to watch a show whose episodes I haven't seen half a dozen times.
I think the writers and producers were trying to go a bit to the idea of socially significant
themes in many of the episodes. I think back in the early sixities the plots seemed
original and fresh but now they look kind of cliched and obvious. Buz especially seems to
beat the crap out of somebody in most episodes while Tod is a bit more restrained. And
Buz was more of a rebel type while Tod is more of a white bread college boy guy. It's
funny how two guys traveling around in a car happen to meet so many nuts
and weirdos and get into so many dangerous situations every week. Must be a TV
show. Despite all that I still find it entertaining, probably as much for how parts of the
country looked and the mores of the early 1960s than for the plots themselves.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
Oh, OK. I don't have it, so wondered. They still show Perry on one of my stations at night, forget which station. Might be Metv. But it's so edited for more commercials, it's hard to follow the plots. I think I've probably seen them all by now.
I think Fetv showed Perry Mason four times a day, two episodes in the afternoon and two in the
evening. Now they're down to just two a day. And of course loads of commercials, as if the plots
weren't already confusing enough. They showed the one color episode that was a test to see
how it looked if there was going to be a tenth season in color. Looked pretty good and Paul's
hair was as white as snow. Fetv, and then there's Maude.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
What is Fetv?
It's a channel that shows old TV shows (with lots of commercials or course). As far as I know
it's the only channel like that on DirecTV except for TVLand. Perry Mason. Mary Tyler Moore
Show, Roy Rogers, Sgt. Preston, etc. They just started showing Route 66 at the beginning
of June. Fe stand for Family Entertainment.
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Fetv just showed the last episode of PM last week and has started over at the first
season. There sure are a lot of sexy blondes in these episodes. No wonder Drake
sometimes looks so out of it. Paul Drake made Burger look like a sick horse.
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16 hours ago, TopBilled said:
Worldwide sales for her albums (I've summarized the info from wiki):
I didn't want to use up space quoting the whole post, but it does show that her album sales
are slowly shrinking. However important or unimportant that is I leave to others. I can't blame
Madonna for being a little upset with Lady Gaga. Gaga took Madonna's early 'look at all the
outrageous things I'm doing' shtick and just copied it. Of course she had to be even more
outrageous or it wouldn't work. Now she's going mainstream and doesn't have to resort to
that as had did in the past. I'm sure she'll come up with something a little outre every once
in a while to keep interest up.
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5 hours ago, TopBilled said:
The Madame X album was released on June 14th (ten days ago) and in its first week, it debuted at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200. Its first week, it had certified sales of almost 100,000 units in the U.S. In the U.K. it debuted with sales of 25,000 units, and in France it debuted with sales of around 16,000 units. So one week, in three countries, it's around 140,000 units sold.
Plus add in sales from other countries. The album is currently the top seller in Taiwan, it's the second best seller in Australia, second best seller in Italy, second best seller in Holland, the second best seller in Belgium, you get the idea. It's probably already sold well over 200,000 units worldwide in its first week.
She's launching an international tour in September so that will give the album another boost.
Her last studio effort, 2015's Rebel Heart, sold 1,000,000 units worldwide. And I think this album will too.
Nothing wrong with selling a million albums, but ten or fifteen years ago that would have been a
disappointment for her, when she was moving 5 or 10 million worldwide. And no matter how many
or few she sells they usually go to number one regardless. I remember reading an article a long
time ago on Clive Davis about Bob Dylan. Davis said that all the Dylan fanatics would go out and
buy his latest album as soon as it came out so it would go to or near the top of the charts,
but after that initial pop sales would fall off. Maybe something similar happens to Madonna's
recent records. This really isn't specific to her. It happens to most performers who have been
around for a relatively long time. And her sales over 35 years are certainly impressive, but they are
slowing up.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
Yeah, true. Just an average programmer with a few good moments. Agree no worse than the average annoying movie tyke, but the screaming got on my nerves! Helmore came and went rather quickly. The plot/script in the beginning was rather choppy.
My, what a big, gaping, teeth less mouth you have. And then ol' Gigi lets it rip. Once the
wife was killed, there was no need for Helmore anymore, though he might have been
involved in some type of blackmail plot. But I figured his character was the type just to
move on to the next dame.
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5 hours ago, Hibi said:
LOL. I hadn't noticed Barbara Billingsley until the final credits! I couldn't stand the Gigi character so I was rooting for Ann to succeed, the first time I saw it. Definitely not a classic, but worth seeing once.
Unless I missed something on a brief snack run, she was only in one scene for maybe a
minute, so I'm not surprised she would be missed. I don't know, I didn't think the kid
was more annoying than the average movie kid. And she sure could scream. That "water
bed" that she was trussed in, apparently for the whole night, didn't look too
comfortable. I think Ann could have used the 'the gun just went off' defense. She had
it in her pocket and could have claimed she just didn't realize what was going to
happen. I forgot to mention one of my favorite Hitchcock villains, Tom Helmore, who
played the cad, though not a murderous one as he did in Vertigo. I would put SOTW in
C+/B- territory.
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From a strictly green eye shade, bottom line perspective, Madonna's career follows a pattern
of many other long time performers. Looking at album sales alone, they start out either with
a few early albums that don't sell all that well and they have a big breakthrough or they are
big from the start, like Madonna. Then they reach a peak and gradually sell fewer albums.
Madonna's recent albums have been gold where ten or fifteen years ago they were multi-
platinum. That's showbiz.
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I got two intros too, wherein we learn that l'il Gigi had already appeared in 150 movies before
this one or something like that. Not worried about the outro, that's what Wiki's for. I was just
happy they showed a movie I had never seen before. As the movie went on I was wondering if
Gigi could have seen anything in the time frame of the murder, sort of like the nurse not
hearing CFK say rosebud because she came in after he said it. I'll have to pay attention to that
if SOTW shows up again. And I was glad we didn't have to spend the last hour of the movie
watching mommy endlessly interviewing Gigi about what happened that night. Ann Sothern
did the same thing so many dumb criminals do in movies. Instead of staying away she goes
about sticking her nose in and trying all kinds of schemes that will only incriminate her further.
And even for Hollywood the sudden ending was pretty contrived. Ann just happens to turn
on the outdoor light illuminating that huge wall so the kiddie will suddenly grok onto what
happened. Whatever. And I'm happy that the maid quit domestic service and married Ward
Cleaver. All in all a fairly entertaining flick with some good moments and scenes that hang
together well, though far short of a classic.
Noir Alley
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Well, poor ol' Buz lost his eyesight yesterday. Somehow he miraculously regained
it before the episode ended. Never underestimate the healing power of Route 66.