Vautrin
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Just now, slaytonf said:
But is r 'n' r better than movies?
Like some other posters, I think it is an apples and oranges comparison. You're really
talking about two different art forms which don't have a lot in common. I would say
I like them equally, though sometimes I'm in the mood for one and not the other.
I've seen articles for years about how jazz is not popular as concerns sales, though
that says nothing about its worth. I also recall reading that jazz and classical music
try to juice things up by having provocative covers. Apparently that only helps so
much.
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I prefer rock 'n' roll. It's noise pollution and it makes no good sense.
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7 hours ago, Hibi said:
Yes, he was very good in that too. Seance could've been a different film, more a crime caper, if the characters had been written differently.......
I prefer it as it is, otherwise it would have been just another crime film. I saw it a number of years
ago and thought there was more about the seance angle, but there wasn't. An offbeat film about
some rather strange characters that you don't see too often, at least back in the 1960s.
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9 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
A lot of the elements of this movie [well, the bickering and the "imaginary" child] brought to mind WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF?
It would be interesting to see a mash-up of the two: LIZ AND DICK starring as GEORGE AND MARTHA in SEANCE ON A WOOLFE AFTERNOON, wherein the pivotal scene of MARTHA demanding GEORGE "take care" of the little girl whilst eating from a bucket of fried chicken clinched LIZ her THIRD Oscar "she's seen your face, Georgie Worgie! She's seen your face!...."
in re: the set
It was a very interesting set, one thing I could not help but notice was the CAST IRON PLANT in a large, ugly, overly ornate (and very British) porcelain planter and pedestal that was DEAD CENTER in the living room set. It almost should have gotten fourth billing it was such a prominent set piece.
There are some obvious parallels between the two, though I think the baby in Seance is
more likely to have been real than the one in Virginia Woolf. Maybe the two characters in
Seance should have been named Victoria and Albert. And at least George usually gives
as good as he gets while Richard's character just takes it for the most part. And I can't
quite see Kim Stanley breaking out in a wicked Bette Davis impersonation. But despite
that, they do remind one of the more caustic couple. I really didn't notice the plant all
that much. I guess I was more focused on the Victrola and the bric-a-brac in the house.
I would like to give it the alternative title of Beyond the Valley of the Milquetoast.
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5 hours ago, Hibi said:
LOL. He did look ridiculous. I'm sure it was intended to show how pathetic this scheme was........
He had to be one of the most hen-pecked hubbies in a drama film that I can think of.
Though this wasn't primarily a crime film, I can't help but think it might have worked if
these two folks had a functioning brain between them. I liked their shabby genteel home
too. A perfect setting for the bizarre goings on. Attenborough was ten times creepier
as John Christie in 10 Rillington Place. Very spooky, claustrophobic movie.
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The sight of dorky Dicky Attenborough putting around town and country in his
motorcycle/sidecar combo had me in stitches despite myself. His disguise only
made it even funnier. Otherwise a very well done movie. I was relieved to find out
that the upper class twitette was not dead but only sleeping. And if I was Dicky
I would have been boiling mad when big mouth medium let the whole cat out of the
bag.
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6 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
Exactly now you are getting in touch with your inner Noir. There is no difference between Eddie and say Stanton 'Stan' Carlisle.
Except that introducing movies is preferable to biting the heads off chickens and
Eddie is slightly less handsome than Tyrone.
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1 hour ago, cigarjoe said:
Yea Eddie is a lovable cool Noir jerk.
I'd love to see him show up here and take umbrage with a few pretentious blowhards that pontificate on here.
Eddie is like licorice-flavored scotch, palatable in small doses. The whole czar of
noir riff gets pretty tiresome, but I suppose the guy has to make a living.
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I recall when Edie had a minor hissy fit a few years ago when someone dissed him on
this site. He asked if that person had ever had a book on the NYT's bestseller list as
Edie had. Kind of a jerk.
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Taking it from grandpa and all Barbi got was a gig on Hee Haw.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
I've always wanted to see this film! Still havent seen it.
Maybe I should have put up a spoiler alert, though the plot isn't exactly a surprise.
I watched it on YT in a pretty good print. I remember seeing a publicity shot of Nader
lifting weights and he was in pretty good shape. It is most amusing in a weird way.
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The Female Animal (1958) Hedy Lamarr, George Nader, Jane Powell.
Hedy Lamarr is the female animal. Okay, she's also a middle age big Hollywood star. While
walking through the set one day in the merry merry month of May she is almost hit by
a falling light. Luckily, extra George Nader is there to push Hedwig out of the way. Hedy
is immediately attracted to Nader's large muscles and boyish charm and blank acting style.
She wants to play the cougar to George's tabby cat. But being a man of high principles
and low intelligence, George refuses to be her paid boy toy and even sends back the
expensive suits she bought him. What a sap. He does agree to be the "caretaker" of
her swank beach house. Stopping in a bar for a quick brew Nader meets Jane Powell
and starts to become attracted to her. Little does Georgie boy know that Jane is
actually Hedy's adoptive daughter. You don't have to be a movie scholar to see where
this flick is headed. After much heartbreak and fooling around, Hedy pretends she no
longer is warm for George's form and lets him go so Jane Powell is saddled with the
virile airhead. Campy enough to be humorous at times, though not campy enough to
be totally hilarious on every level. Jerry Paris has a nice supporting turn as George's
sarcastic buddy and Jan Sterling is wasted as another Hollywood cougar. Jane Powell
appears in a number of fashions that shows off her drop down rear end. Sweet. This
appears to have been both Lamarr's and Powell's last film. Talk about going out on
a low note. Sadly, it was not Nader's.
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1 hour ago, GordonCole said:
That's what you get for lovin' him!
The best "how to dump a former suitor and blame them for picking you" song of all time.Of course the fact that I was listening to Gordon Lightfoot at the time was purely
coincidental. I had a whole seat full of CDs with me. Maybe Gordo was somewhat
of a reverse inspiration for George Costanza's 'it's not you, it's me' routine.
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I like Gordon Lightfoot, but I have a bad memory of listening to Gord's Gold while
stuck in a horrendous traffic jam around D.C., but I forgave him a long time ago.
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14 hours ago, Stephan55 said:
Oh I caught your smile
and responded in kind with a wink 
I knew that you were just josh'n, and my response wasn't seriously serious either.
But kidding aside, I have seen various TCM channels (in english) on those rare occasions when I have treated myself to a hotel room while abroad. And yes, it was like a lulling "taste" of home.... Sorta like those ubiquitous MacDonald's that seem to appear in practically every major city across the globe.
So there is a bit of truth within our comedy.There is often some truth in our japes, no doubt about it. TCM and McDonalds are what
America means to me
. I got a laugh of of the Jimmy Stewart/Robert Mitchum documentary
last night with the footage of Bob talking to the troops in Vietnam. Okay boys, let's smoke
a little weed and then you go out and kill some red commie bastards. I'll stay here and roll a
few more.
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11 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
Haha, my mother LOVED Mick Jagger and even funnier Keith Richards. I think Mom was in her late 50's when I took her to a Stones stadium show. She loved it but I thought it was a bore.
OTOH, I saw Peter Noone with his band (the Tremblers?) in a bar in the 80's and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen (& I've seen a LOT) A contingent of kids stood outside his dressing room afterwards singing Henry The Eighth and he came out to sign autographs. Cute.
Both my parents were mostly oblivious to rock bands. They wouldn't know the Beatles or
the Rolling Stones from the Sons of the Pioneers. Looking back, I can now say that HH
produced some nice melodic pop songs in their heyday, but at the time I wanted to run
screaming, or not, from the room. Just on an appearance level I think Keith looked a lot
better in the late 1960s and early 1970s when he grew his hair long, which also covered
his somewhat prominent ears.
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5 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:
By the time Peter Noone and Herman's Hermits hit, I was too old to be that interested.
But the teenyboppers just went crazy over Peter Noone.
And the parents really liked him a lot too.
My father just loathed Mick Jagger. LOL
Yes, I can understand why any mom and dad preferred a cute cuddly guy like Peter Noone to
a rough looking type like Mike Jagger. I never worried about my father hating rock stars. He
didn't even know who Mick Jagger was.
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5 hours ago, Stephan55 said:
Well, not so sure about that. I've often managed to find TCM being broadcast in many (well a few anyway) distant lands.
But on second thought, perhaps those TCM broadcasts were magnanimously meant for estranged expat "Americans" habitating within those lands???That was written in jest. I'm sure there are people from other countries who enjoy
TCM in addition to Americans who are abroad and like to see something familiar.
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I like Winter Light. Though I personally don't have much interest in the silence of God
theme, it is also an interesting character study and a look at the claustrophobic environment
of what I presume is a very small town. And the tiny attendance at the church always
makes me chuckle, though I doubt that was Bergman's intent. I suppose in a way it's a
mite pretentious, but in the main it's a rather stark and unadorned look at a certain way
of life and the people who live it.
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1 hour ago, misswonderly3 said:
Hmm. My favourite songs on "Fear of Music " are "Life During Wartime" and "Heaven". But if you're trying to say I'm paranoid, a better choice might have been "Drugs".
So, you're saying either I'm crazy or paranoid or both. (I think.) But why is it either to be upset that there's such a snarl around the rights issues of old movies that I and everyone else who lives in Canada misses out on many interesting and sometimes rare films that you Americans get to see? I guess I do have one thing in common with the narrator of "Animals"...I think the situation is getting worse.
I only posted the song because of its opening lyric, I'm mad and that's a fact. The rest of the
song really has nothing to do with it. Animals is not one of my favorites on Fear of Music.
I prefer the two you mentioned plus Electric Guitar and Paper. I've always liked the cover too,
with the metal grate motif, which is raised on the vinyl release. I'm not sure why certain movies
aren't shown in Canada, unless it's another one of those notorious rights issues. OTOH, TCM
is mainly meant for real Americans.
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The daughter of some friends of my parents was an absolute nut for Herman's
Hermits. So when we visited them I had to endure a session of HH in her bedroom,
which was filled with all things HH. That was enough of HH to last the rest of my life.
I don't remember anyone fighting in school about the British Invasion bands.
They were more likely to fight over sports teams, though even that was infrequent.
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1 hour ago, Dargo said:
Okay Vautrin. While I like David Byrne as much as the next guy, don't ya think that was just a little too rockin' for this late in the evening?
And so may I suggest the following tribute to our neighbors(or as they say "neighbours") to the north instead...
(...now I ask you...wasn't THIS just a little more "soothing" for such a late hour?...nighty night...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Hey, how did you know what was in my dad's record collection? Hugo Winterhalter. Sounds like a
Nazi who moved to the U.S. but was too dumb to change his name. I guess it beats the old Indian
test pattern and the I have touched the sky flyover thingie from years ago.
If you live in Canada you just may not see it at all.
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O Canada!
I Just Watched...
in General Discussions
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The Bonnie Parker Story (1958). Dorothy Provine, Jack Hogan (?), Joseph Turkel (?)
Dorothy Provine is Bonnie Parker, sort of. Before the critically acclaimed 1967 movie, there was
this low budget exploito flick. Of course the story isn't exactly the real deal but it's close enough.
And it is the Bonnie Parker story. For whatever reason her partner in crime has been renamed
Guy Darrow (no relation to Clarence), and it is Bonnie who runs the show while Clyde/Guy, for
the most part, just goes along. Bonnie likes to cut down folks with her machine gun, which doesn't
jive with the real, much less lethal Bonnie Parker. And with her Marilyn Monroe looks, Bonnie draws
a lot of male attention which she shuts down after a few teases. There are a few harmless double
entendres and Provine appears in as skimpy clothes as 1958 would allow, which isn't much. This
movie was shot in some kind of wide screen process which makes Bonnie and her gang look like
little people from certain angles, makes Bonnie look like she should have a wide load sign on her
rear and makes 1930s car look like low riders. Maybe the person who uploaded it to YT goofed
up. And in one scene where the gang is fiddling with the radio knobs they hit on a station that
is playing a generic 1950s rock song. Whatever. There has been an attempt in recent years to
make this into some kind of cult classic, but to me it's just another low budget flick, with
whatever highs and lows that go along with the type.