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FRED MACMURRAY- Nice Guy and Underrated Actor
NipkowDisc replied to sapphiere's topic in General Discussions
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that is why it was the golden age of hollywood... then huac and vietnam hadda happen and hollywood has been a few cookies short ever since.
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wayne rogers should most definitely be included in the memoriam segment. several years ago jonathan frid was. wayne rogers probably has more film appearances than frid did. frid was in 'house of dark shadows' in 1970 (which saved m-g-m from bankruptcy) and in oliver stone's 'seizure' in 1974 but rogers certainly had more film appearances. so I doan see how you can include frid and not rogers. rogers is right there on screen with paul newman and george kennedy in cool hand luke
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I doubt that Wayne Rogers will be included in 'in memoriam'. since he frequently showed up on fox because of his investment expertise, tcm will see him as a conservative.
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I think at the time the writers underestimated the long-lasting bad taste having hot lips so completely turn on frank burns the way she did would stay with the audience. yes, she had cause. frank denied their relationship to his wife, and at some point a woman involved with a married man will want the guy to be chivalrous but not frank. but she pretty much already knew he was a worm. but the writers and I suppose ms. swit wanted what they wanted. linville's frank burns becomes even more mean-spirited and buffoonish. now the frank burns character has no one but his wife's correspondence and everyone in camp hates his guts...and now even hot lips is against him. talk about unbalanced writing. no wonder linville decided to quit.
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the problem with the later seasons of mash was not only were they unfunny but when they wanted to make a point, unlike the earlier seasons which were a mix of irreverent comedy with dashes of serious drama here and there, the later seasons were too dam preachy and heavy-handed making alotta eps simply unwatchable. the writers let loretta swit's now feminized 'margaret' tear up anything or anybody she wanted to, one particular ep has hawkeye angry because the army upped the number of points necessary to go home and in the same ep 'margaret' is upset because she thinks her precious donald is cheating on her. so here's hawkeye and margaret standing in the trash dump yelling over each other about their particular problem, neither one hearing the other. finally hawkeye shuts up and starts listening to 'margaret'. eventually in later seasons loretta swit moderates a little as 'margaret' because I think even the lame writers realized she was coming across to the viewing audience as far too shrill.
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he compared the disney company to white slavers.
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I bet tcm will show a bad cut of close encounters of the third kind this afternoon. it won't have the bathroom scene with neary taking a bath in his clothes or the priceless scene in moorcraft, wyoming with the huckster at the train saying... "you're going to be real sorry if you all don't one of these early warning systems with a gas mask. why even my dog has a gas mask and anyone of you is worth more than a dog." cracks me up every time but tcm keeps showing this bad cut without it. slackers
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I remember the 2-hour finale episode which unbellevably ends with klinger deciding to stay in korea? even today that makes me laugh..and not comedically.
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one can easily get the impression from mash that rogers wasn't in alda's league. all you hafta do is watch an ep of City of Angels. for some reason wayne rogers ability as an actor doesn't come through in his role of trapper john. years ago when City of Angels was on A&E, I watched a few and was just so impressed with wayne rogers ability as an actor.
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pleassse, my nerves!
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but the first four seasons were meant to be uproariously funny. when will hollywood ever understand that continuity means something to viewers. it always has.
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obviously I have far more depth and insight into the m*a*s*h series probably watching far more than anyone else posting here. something that probably has never been brought up in any retrospective of the series that has been aired... yeah, frank burns was an sob but just how well-received do the makers of mash believe that margaret houlihan turning on him so completely is appreciated today? sure frank burns was a rat but hot lips knew that from the start. who did she think frank was? albert schweitzer? it begins with the ep of frank's wife learning of their affair. frank gets on the radio and trashes margaret and that was the groundwork to so completely demonize the frank burns character. maybe the writers wanted linville to quit the show? they sure gave him ample reasons to with the storyline they were going with. alan alda and liberal hollywood television writers destroyed mash. most fans if you asked them today would probably tell you that the first four seasons are the best period of the show.
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when loretta swit's character became feminized she became overbearing and completely unlikable. maybe swit thought it would come across as funny to the television audience but imo it did not. larry linville's frank burns was a rat but the character was funny. comedic villains usually are. and the overly serious dramatic turn the series took in the later seasons after the departure of maclean stevenson and wayne rogers. even today the post-stevenson, rogers, linville eps do not mesh well with the show's first four seasons. frank burns was a rat (obviously meant by series developer larry gelbart to be a conservative villain to the heroic humanitarian healers hawkeye and trapper john) the first seasons everything is played for laughs. then they kill off col. blake and the show's long descent into being overly serious about everything begins. hot lips becomes a raging feminist and the laughs are moderated and finally gone. but even in those later seasons, there are a few priceless laughs. the one ep where hawkeye and bee jay try to outprank each other. there's this one scene where margaret lies down on her cot. then a door slowly begins to open and this dummy private mannequin with a lustful sneer drawn on it's face plops right down on top of her. her worst nightmare? it's hilarious. my favorite eps from the later seasons with david ogden stiers and mike farrell are the B.O. episode where bee jay and hawkeye stop bathing to protest charles's french horn. and the other ep is the bathtub episode with bee jay and hawkeye getting a folding bathtub during the height of the korean summer season. klinger tries to reduce himself in a rubber suit for 24 hrs. with potter's promise to give him a section 8 discharge. at the end of that ep a sweaty klinger jumps into the bathtub with margaret in it. everything else in the later seasons is just not very funny.
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yeah, maybe if the two of them had stayed on they coulda helped curb some of loretta swit's feminist tendencies torwards reshaping her character which make some of the post-larry linville eps unwatchable.
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who has died of complications of pneumonia. he should be included in 'in memoriam' as he appeared in motion pictures such as odds against tomorrow and cool hand luke.
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two films I've watched in the last few days on tcm. the other nite watched cary grant and deborah kerr in 'an affair to remember'. so somebody thought cary grant could do rosanno brazzi? didn't come off if you ask me. cary is always this charming gentleman but onboard ship he was downright rude to the venerable Charles Watts. one of my favorite unsung character actors. watts nicely asked cary to join him and his wife and he just snubs the poor guy. some rude debonair cary is in this. and he's supposed to be italian? another thing, you got italian cary visiting his mother's beautiful home in naples. deborah loves it. so why is he living as an impoverished painter in nyc? I guess the lady he was gonna marry on tv took a powder. and what's richard denning being wasted in this for? and deborah kerr? seriously, I thought her acting was atrocious. she didn't come across to me as lady-like or charming at all. then last nite watched frankie in some came running. plays a vet who drops by his hometown. to do what? write or find fault with his brother arthur kennedy? starts off depositing money in the bank directly across from the one his brother works at. nice. what exactly is frankie's problem? he blames his brother for his last bad relationship with a girl? what's he hangin' around for? just to play poker in the back room with dino? when he calls on the professor and his daughter martha hyer, I just plain went to bed at that juncture. already seen the film's ending what with a dipsy shirley macclaine committing suicide? was that it? doan matter. frankie was irritating.
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Did I hear the intro to "These Three" correctly?
NipkowDisc replied to bundie's topic in General Discussions
any showing of The Caine Mutiny should be paired with a vanilla ice cream & frozen strawberries dessert.
