NipkowDisc
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You do realize most of old time Hollywood was Republican doan you?
that is why it was the golden age of hollywood...
then huac and vietnam hadda happen and hollywood has been a few cookies short ever since.
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I doubt that Wayne Rogers will be included in 'in memoriam'. since he frequently showed up on fox because of his investment expertise, tcm will see him as a conservative.
wayne rogers should most definitely be included in the memoriam segment. several years ago jonathan frid was. wayne rogers probably has more film appearances than frid did. frid was in 'house of dark shadows' in 1970 (which saved m-g-m from bankruptcy) and in oliver stone's 'seizure' in 1974 but rogers certainly had more film appearances. so I doan see how you can include frid and not rogers. rogers is right there on screen with paul newman and george kennedy in cool hand luke
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I doubt that Wayne Rogers will be included in 'in memoriam'. since he frequently showed up on fox because of his investment expertise, tcm will see him as a conservative.
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I remember when Frank Burns told his wife Margaret was an old war horse.
I think at the time the writers underestimated the long-lasting bad taste having hot lips so completely turn on frank burns the way she did would stay with the audience. yes, she had cause. frank denied their relationship to his wife, and at some point a woman involved with a married man will want the guy to be chivalrous but not frank. but she pretty much already knew he was a worm. but the writers and I suppose ms. swit wanted what they wanted. linville's frank burns becomes even more mean-spirited and buffoonish. now the frank burns character has no one but his wife's correspondence and everyone in camp hates his guts...and now even hot lips is against him.
talk about unbalanced writing.
no wonder linville decided to quit.
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Wayne Rogers was a good actor who worked in supporting roles in various films. When the MASH tv series was cast it should have been a big break for him. But right from day one the Alan Alda Hawkeye character got the focus . Most of the episodes feature him, he gets 90 % of the good lines, etc. I always had the understanding that both Wayne Rogers and McLean Stevenson left the show because they were not happy with the lack of balance in the scripts. Ironically when Mike Farrell and Harry Morgan joined the cast they got better treatment then the guys they replaced. I think many of the best shows were the ones done in those middle years. The last few years were clearly some of the least appealing, not necessarily a reflection on the actors involved like David Ogden Stiers. The Larry Linville character of Frank should have been treated somewhat better. He should have been given some measure of credit for being competent as a surgeon instead of being such a total buffoon .
the problem with the later seasons of mash was not only were they unfunny but when they wanted to make a point, unlike the earlier seasons which were a mix of irreverent comedy with dashes of serious drama here and there, the later seasons were too dam preachy and heavy-handed making alotta eps simply unwatchable. the writers let loretta swit's now feminized 'margaret' tear up anything or anybody she wanted to, one particular ep has hawkeye angry because the army upped the number of points necessary to go home and in the same ep 'margaret' is upset because she thinks her precious donald is cheating on her.
so here's hawkeye and margaret standing in the trash dump yelling over each other about their particular problem, neither one hearing the other. finally hawkeye shuts up and starts listening to 'margaret'. eventually in later seasons loretta swit moderates a little as 'margaret' because I think even the lame writers realized she was coming across to the viewing audience as far too shrill.
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Not surprisingly, George Lucas has walked back his recent comments about Disney in an interview with Charlie Rose:
he compared the disney company to white slavers.
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I bet tcm will show a bad cut of close encounters of the third kind this afternoon.
it won't have the bathroom scene with neary taking a bath in his clothes or the priceless scene in moorcraft, wyoming with the huckster at the train saying...
"you're going to be real sorry if you all don't one of these early warning systems with a gas mask.
why even my dog has a gas mask and anyone of you is worth more than a dog."
cracks me up every time but tcm keeps showing this bad cut without it.
slackers
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They tried to go back to the slapstick on the follow-up series AfterMASH, but Klinger in a dress was no longer funny. The show quickly tanked. Audiences had changed a lot from the early 70s to the early 80s. And more importantly, these characters had changed.
I remember the 2-hour finale episode which unbellevably ends with klinger deciding to stay in korea?
even today that makes me laugh..and not comedically.
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Make it a double-bill with THE DEVILS, and you've got a night at the movies.
I doan think tcm would ever have the guts to show Mark of the Devil uncut.
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We stopped watching M*A*S*H when it became the Alan Alda show. Wayne Rogers had a good series, City of Angels, on TV, but it did not last long. He played a PI in 1930's LA.
one can easily get the impression from mash that rogers wasn't in alda's league. all you hafta do is watch an ep of City of Angels.
for some reason wayne rogers ability as an actor doesn't come through in his role of trapper john. years ago when City of Angels was on A&E, I watched a few and was just so impressed with wayne rogers ability as an actor.
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"Make me a sergeant in charge of the booze."
pleassse, my nerves!
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I don't think the later seasons were meant to be uproariously funny. The show was sort of a comedy drama at that point. Personally, I think the best episodes are the ones from the last three seasons (which coincidentally occur after Radar has left). And the final season is my favourite one overall.
but the first four seasons were meant to be uproariously funny. when will hollywood ever understand that continuity means something to viewers. it always has.
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obviously I have far more depth and insight into the m*a*s*h series probably watching far more than anyone else posting here.
something that probably has never been brought up in any retrospective of the series that has been aired...
yeah, frank burns was an sob but just how well-received do the makers of mash believe that margaret houlihan turning on him so completely is appreciated today?
sure frank burns was a rat but hot lips knew that from the start. who did she think frank was? albert schweitzer? it begins with the ep of frank's wife learning of their affair. frank gets on the radio and trashes margaret and that was the groundwork to so completely demonize the frank burns character. maybe the writers wanted linville to quit the show? they sure gave him ample reasons to with the storyline they were going with.
alan alda and liberal hollywood television writers destroyed mash.
most fans if you asked them today would probably tell you that the first four seasons are the best period of the show.
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What do you have against women?
when loretta swit's character became feminized she became overbearing and completely unlikable. maybe swit thought it would come across as funny to the television audience but imo it did not. larry linville's frank burns was a rat but the character was funny. comedic villains usually are. and the overly serious dramatic turn the series took in the later seasons after the departure of maclean stevenson and wayne rogers. even today the post-stevenson, rogers, linville eps do not mesh well with the show's first four seasons.
frank burns was a rat (obviously meant by series developer larry gelbart to be a conservative villain to the heroic humanitarian healers hawkeye and trapper john) the first seasons everything is played for laughs. then they kill off col. blake and the show's long descent into being overly serious about everything begins. hot lips becomes a raging feminist and the laughs are moderated and finally gone. but even in those later seasons, there are a few priceless laughs. the one ep where hawkeye and bee jay try to outprank each other. there's this one scene where margaret lies down on her cot. then a door slowly begins to open and this dummy private mannequin with a lustful sneer drawn on it's face plops right down on top of her. her worst nightmare? it's hilarious.
my favorite eps from the later seasons with david ogden stiers and mike farrell are the B.O. episode where bee jay and hawkeye stop bathing to protest charles's french horn. and the other ep is the bathtub episode with bee jay and hawkeye getting a folding bathtub during the height of the korean summer season. klinger tries to reduce himself in a rubber suit for 24 hrs. with potter's promise to give him a section 8 discharge. at the end of that ep a sweaty klinger jumps into the bathtub with margaret in it.
everything else in the later seasons is just not very funny.
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Hey, maybe they'll show 'Pocket Money' (1972) in his honor.
Or maybe even 'WUSA' (1970).
He was a fool to give up his role on 'MASH'. Him and Stevenson both. Very, very foolish.
yeah, maybe if the two of them had stayed on they coulda helped curb some of loretta swit's feminist tendencies torwards reshaping her character which make some of the post-larry linville eps unwatchable.
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who has died of complications of pneumonia. he should be included in 'in memoriam' as he appeared in motion pictures such as odds against tomorrow and cool hand luke.
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how about an uncut Mark of the Devil with Herbert Lom and future salem's lot nosferatu Reggie Nalder.
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absolutely. overrated sentimental gup.
when your favorite scene is eliot saying bleep-breath at the dinner table. you know you have a real prize.
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I think ET is a pretty silly movie.
When it was hiding in the closet with the stuffies, I laughed out loud. Very funny image, that.
The rest of the movie - strictly children's fare. Over-done children's fare.
absolutely. overrated sentimental gup.
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two films I've watched in the last few days on tcm. the other nite watched cary grant and deborah kerr in 'an affair to remember'. so somebody thought cary grant could do rosanno brazzi? didn't come off if you ask me. cary is always this charming gentleman but onboard ship he was downright rude to the venerable Charles Watts. one of my favorite unsung character actors. watts nicely asked cary to join him and his wife and he just snubs the poor guy. some rude debonair cary is in this.
and he's supposed to be italian? another thing, you got italian cary visiting his mother's beautiful home in naples. deborah loves it. so why is he living as an impoverished painter in nyc? I guess the lady he was gonna marry on tv took a powder. and what's richard denning being wasted in this for? and deborah kerr? seriously, I thought her acting was atrocious. she didn't come across to me as lady-like or charming at all.
then last nite watched frankie in some came running. plays a vet who drops by his hometown. to do what? write or find fault with his brother arthur kennedy? starts off depositing money in the bank directly across from the one his brother works at. nice. what exactly is frankie's problem? he blames his brother for his last bad relationship with a girl?
what's he hangin' around for? just to play poker in the back room with dino? when he calls on the professor and his daughter martha hyer, I just plain went to bed at that juncture. already seen the film's ending what with a dipsy shirley macclaine committing suicide? was that it? doan matter. frankie was irritating. -
Peter Ustinov as Batiatus the sentimental owner of the Gladiator training school in Spartacus (1960).
(Technically) I think he was written as a sympathetic character but morally we should not like him one bit.
I think he shoulda round up with varinia.
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Willie Stark
"you hayseeds need another fella like me!"
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I do agree with you that it is a joke to say that "women, people of color, GLBT, and people of various ability statuses have equally contributed to society throughout the ages" as it relates to western civilization. Total nonsense. But the reason white males have contributed more historically to the development of western civilization is sexism, bigotry and discrimination towards non-white males.
surely you would not attribute bigotry and sexism to Alexander Graham Bell or Thomas Edison?
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So we can all look forward to the TCM cooking show that pairs 3 course meals with specific movies. I'm interested in what movie and actors will be selected when the protein is turkey.
any showing of The Caine Mutiny should be paired with a vanilla ice cream & frozen strawberries dessert.
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FRED MACMURRAY- Nice Guy and Underrated Actor
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I have always liked fred macmurray. doan forget 'murder, he says'.