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I just think carpenter was better at spinning a story than craven ever was. even tobe hooper is better than craven and I'm not gonna heap praises on someone I have always felt was a very subpar director. just not gonna do it. I mean no disrespect to the man's passing but I would no more praise craven then I would larry buchanan.

you get into craven's movies and they ultimately doan seem to go anywhere. the one with the people living under a house. I found it an extremely interesting and believable premise but it lost momentum torwards the end. the hills have eyes, craven's cut-rate texas chainsaw massacre. he constrained michael berryman too much.
all he used berryman for was that vegetable stare from one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

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We'll have to wait and see when Carpenter dies.
I'm now also curious to know Carpenter's reaction to Craven's death.
I'm betting there was a "mutual admiration" thing going on there. I'm also pinning that belief on that those two individually had FAR more class than some FORUM members here display!

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I just think carpenter was better at spinning a story than craven ever was. even tobe hooper is better than craven and I'm not gonna heap praises on someone I have always felt was a very subpar director. just not gonna do it. I mean no disrespect to the man's passing but I would no more praise craven then I would larry buchanan.

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THIS JUST IN.......
CNN REPORTS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS JUST SELECTED CHAUNCEY GARDNER AS HIS VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE!!

our garden needs work.

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wes craven and his movies have always been seriously overrated. I never watched a single film of his that I thought was good horror. an incinerated perv with metal blades attached to his burnt fingers takes physical reality in teenagers dreams?
it makes no sense. never has.
gimme a break.
John Carpenter rates ten times the accolades that craven is getting.
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According to TCM General Manager Jennifer Dorian the campaign is intended to attract a broader audience to the channel, with Ms. Dorian stressing that TCM "celebrates the entire spectrum of film history" and that "a great movie is a great movie, no matter the decade it was made in."
that's why tcm has never shown the longer UK version of William Cameron Menzies' Invaders From Mars.

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Warren, a perennial supporting player for such a majority of his career - a tremendous amount of it in tv episodes - is one of those strange cases where an actor becomes almost a cult hero to audiences everywhere, who see him time and again and always seem to enjoy his presence in everything they see. Actors, too. I've heard it said that in the early 70's, everybody wanted him to be in whatever movie they were making, although the way it was put was "everybody wants to be in a Warren Oates movie" - a peculiar saying considering he wasn't generally a lead actor (not a star in the usual sense of the word).
'Two-Lane Blacktop' has become a cult item. I saw it several times in the 70's - including on its initial run in theaters. How does a rocker of 1971 not want to see a movie starring a young, long-haired James Taylor, Dennis Wilson and Warren Oates? Just yesterday I got the 2-disc Criterion edition from the library. Warming up the dvd recorder.
Anyway, I'm blathering. I was intending to respond to your post with:
'Two-Lane Blacktop' for sure, missw!
Fact is, there's an whole bunch of movies that could comprise another fabulous day at TCM, such as
Cockfighter (1974)
The Hired Hand (1971)
In the Heat of the Night (1967)
The White Dawn (1974)
The Border (1982)
Kid Blue (1973)
Sleeping Dogs (1977)
Race with the Devil (1975)
The Shooting (1966)
Dillinger (1973)
Drum (1976)
Stripes (1981)
Heck, even 'Return of the Seven' (1966) should be shown by TCM - ridiculously inferior sequel to 'The Magnificent Seven' though it is, Warren is the best thing in it (with apologies to Yul Brynner) and I'm always amazed that a movie with such a "classic" styling is never shown here.
Other Oates work that would be great to see - if TCM would just show some made for tv movies - would be 'The Movie Murderer' (1970). And who wouldn't like to see him as Rooster Cogburn in the tv version of 'True Grit' (1978)? I missed it way back when and would love an airing of it!
That TCM even gave us a Warren Oates day this year is a hopeful sign (for me). I'm hoping it means that someone in programming is as fond of him as I am, and that there's the potential for another Warren Oates day in the future! Lots more possibilities.
I'm very happy that we did get 'The Thief Who Came to Dinner' (1973) yesterday. Although a Ryan O'Neal vehicle, Warren was terrific in the co-star role. Thank you TCM!!
I sure wouldn't mind seeing Drum as the second part of a double bill with Mandingo.

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Trump can thank the media for his surge in the polls. He's all they ever cover. Few others can get any airtime. Every time I turn on a news show its Trump front and center. Morning and night!
Good! that must mean the Donald's doing something right. he's colorful and entertaining. why shouldn't they cover him?

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Was Jabba a psychopath?
maybe not but he sure had good taste in humanoid babes.

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That comes from the old lp sections that were labeled 'Movie Soundtracks.' And in the vinyl days the movie soundtrack album usually referred to the score of the film.
always did for me.

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The only two dubbing jobs which I actually prefer to the originals are Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow, where the oft-chanted line "She's got the belly" sounds so much better in English; and the apparently lost dubbed version of The Black Pit of Dr. M. a marvel of Mexican horror to which the English dubbing adds quite a lot: "Yes it's me. I came back in Elmer's body!"
I watched the English-dubbed version of The Black Pit of Dr. M when I was a kiddie space cadet on WPIX Channel 11's Chiller Theatre.
where were all today's cinema preservers back then?
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Hey ND! it's either "irrespective" or "regardless", but never a combination of both words.
(...oh and btw...it's ALSO "I couldN'T care less, not "I could care less", just in case you couldn't care less about my correction of the above example of your grammar here, dude!)

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I thought irregardless was probably the wrong grammar. irrespective...thanks!

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But in the sense of a "soundtrack album" for a movie the term refers to songs used in the movie.
I like OST myself.

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Spike Lee is a master craftsman, and he's been doing feature films for about 30 years now. He's had name recognition since the release of his first full-length motion picture -- "She's Gotta Have It" (1986). And let's not forget his popular Nike commercials from the past 25 years or so. It's entirely possible he has a higher name recognition level among younger movie fans than Reynolds or Rowlands.
Of course, much of his high profile is due to the fact that's he's opinionated on various subjects, including race in American society and the New York Knicks.
If anything, the honor from the Academy is long overdue.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/7-spike-lee-oscar-worthy-films-article-1.2340833
it is possible to be just a so-so film director irregardless of race. maybe ampas hopes the statuette will shut him up.

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thank you so much, johnm001, been looking for that particular rendition for a long time. I think it is the most pulse-pounding relentless version of ave caesar anyone's ever gonna find.

bonus track

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If you are referring to Miklos Rozsa Conducts His Epic Film Scores, that is also available on Youtube, where you can convert to MP3
thank you so much, johnm001, been looking for that particular rendition for a long time. I think it is the most pulse-pounding relentless version of ave caesar anyone's ever gonna find.

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not trying to start anything, but if you ask me spike lee is a token recipient. I bet alotta people wouldn't even know his name if they heard it while Debbie and Gena have name recognition spanning many decades.
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That score exists, but in poor quality. There is this recording that you can convert to an mp3
Rozsa released an vinyl LP back in the late 1970s of some new music he conductef from his ben-hur and quo vadis scores.
the cut of ave caesar from that album is what I have been looking for so not any ol' rendition of ave caesar will due for me.
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I'd like to take a moment to defend Westmore's make-up if I may. The reason March looks "gorilla" (i.e. simian) is because the Hyde character was considered less-evolved and more prone to act on his base instincts than the advanced (more evolved) altruistic Dr. Jekyll. If the good doctor had been able to get married right away like he wanted to, maybe his physical frustrations wouldn't have manifested into Hyde's agressive behavior but then we wouldn't have the story. Anyway, the make-up was a hit at the time and Westmore spent many years at Paramount and also did the make-up for ISLAND OF LOST SOULS. Although the fake Hyde teeth bother me a little bit, I love the way March stretches and struts when he first becomes Hyde. He's totally freed from society's conventions. Each time he transforms back into Hyde he looks worse and worse and not even "simian" anymore but something even more primitive.
the make-up doan really bother me either because Fredric March is so good.
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Jack Palance was the best IMO in The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1968).
and Billie Whitelaw wasn't too bad either.

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I've seen all three, albeit it's been ages since I've seen the Barrymore or Tracy version. Make-up wise, Barrymore is the scariest looking but my favorite is the March version, hands-down. March is terrific and you really sense his physical frustration (he wants to get married right now and we get why). The direction is perfect and I love the opening scenes where we don't see his face for several moments. Miriam Hopkins is very, very good as the ill-fated Ivy and should have won a Supporting Oscar if they had been given out then.
agreed. March's outstanding performance makes one look past the silly make-up.
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The 1932 Reuben Mamoulian and the 1968 Dan Curtis versions are the best.
Spencer Tracy gave it a good try but he never could do an english accent unfortunately
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Miriam Hopkins and Ingrid Bergman are wonderful as Ivy, but March, as Hyde, looks like a gorilla. Who was responsible for that makeup?
I think he looks like Jerry Lewis.

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Have films become meaningless to the world and its peoples. Most people see films as just accessories to an ordinary life anyway but even amongst film buffs I see a dissatisfaction building and many would prefer to just watch old films of more quality and forget today's drek. Perhaps films will become as unwanted and unneeded as stereoptiscope cards from the 1890's in the near future. Your take.
yeah, and tcm says nary a word about todays fare being drek...and they should, drek is drek...blech!

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This reminds me of the scene in "Star Trek TNG - The Neutral Zone" when someone asked about television. Data replied Television ended as a form of entertainment during the latter half of the 21st century.
So the 22nd through the 23rd century must had been a major drag before the Holodeck.


Tng was a drag. nothing to watch not even babes because they are wearing unisex togs.

Dean Jones passes away at 84
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always liked him in them Disney films like that darn cat, the love bug and the ugly dachshund.