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The Out-Of-Towners (1970)
The Prisoner of Second Avenue (1975)
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Bar Girl: You want to dance?
Senator Raymond Clark: No, thank you, honey. I just had a hernia operation.
from Seven Days in May 1964
that's the best one so far.

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Kind'a undercuttin' your message a bit with this here B&W shot of Mr. Shaw, ain't ya ND?!

(...'cause I'm PRETTY sure that that there shark movie was shot in vivid COLOR!!!)
no, I was jus' bein' clever.

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CBS obviously believes in colorizing old stuff in some capacity.

so...
"well, it proves one thing, mr. hooper.
that you smart college fellas doan have education enough to admit when you're wrong."- quint


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CBS must think black-and-white worked, too. That was good enough for a lot of people for the past 64 years...right?
yeah...
64 years ago.

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"sounds like a ghost story to me. -A No.1 (Lee Marvin)
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It was also CBS' preference to put the original filming in black-and-white from 1951 to 1960. And also to put the first season of The Lucy Show in black-and-white as well.
Your bias as a viewer is that you prefer all TV shows to be in color. A network's preference is to make as much money as possible on an old program, so if they can sell it in new ways and renew the copyrights, they will. In the meantime, there are plenty of people who prefer to see the show as audiences originally saw it.
CBS must think colorizing works.

that be good enough for me.

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anne meara passes.
she was hilarious in the few moments she had on screen in the original out-of-towners....
"if you carry a purse in this town, you're a marked woman." -anne meara.

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I don't agree. Adding color sometimes destroys the visual impact of the film (if the bright or garish shades of color are placed in a scene that is lit darkly and should have minimal color). Plus, black-and-white cinematography has its own visual impact.
Again, I think you may be indicating a bias without offering scientific proof that colorizing improves anything. At this point, it is just your personal preference.
CBS's too.
they did colorize those two I Love Lucy episodes...I certainly did not make them do it...
I got it!...
it was their colorizing bias.

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my basic point has always been does colorizing some old black & white films improve the overall visual impact of the film?...
I say it does.

now just ask yourself this. when king kong reaches into the apartment building and pulls out that sleeping babe in her jammies and drops her, is that better in color or black & white?

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A topic in honour of this evening's films about maritime disasters. There are many many films that fit into this genre along with those about survival at sea in lifeboats, etc.
My favourite, which I also made mention of in the Hits & Misses thread happens to be Roy Ward Baker's 1958 British drama, A Night to Remember.
I like how this version treats its subject in a somewhat clinical documentary fashion. For me the realism of that approach only adds to its emotional impact.
And it boasts a great soundtrack by one of England's best technicians, Harry Miller.
An old friend of mine who was a Pinewood sound editor at the time told me that he was paid 20 pounds to act as a stunt double and was the one wearing a woman's dress that jumps from the deck into the water tank.
David McCallum and Kenneth Griffith play the wireless operators. Look fast for Sean Connery as a deck hand. Honor Blackman is great as is Laurence Naismith as Captain Smith.
It is one of Kenneth More's best films. He plays Second Officer Lightoller. A stone's throw away from where I live in Richmond Upon Thames is a plaque to Lightoller where he once had his boatyard. A business he operated after the Titanic disaster. Lightoller was also involved in rescuing troops from the beaches of Dunkirk in WWII. That is when England mobilized as many private vessels as possible, large and small to cross the channel to rescue the surrounded troops. Quite a life.
a great film and a great performance by more.
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You're so out of touch (but that isn't unusual). While there isn't much on TCM today that I'm interested in, I don't see how one classifies Disaster films as 'programming for eclectics'. Instead the Disaster film sub-genre is a very commercial one made for the couch potato space cadet market.

a good point but I didn't wanna trash doris day musicals straight-out.

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What are these photos?
those guys need no make-up to play Klingons.

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Perhaps TCM will air MAYDAY AT 40,000 FEET (1976) as it prominently features Marjoe Gortner as an ill-behaved prisoner who causes mayhem in mid-air.
and before that Marjoe Gortner was in pray for the wildcats with Andy Griffith, William Shatner and Robert Reed.

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is tcm gonna run earthquake a few more times?...
'cause it be alright with me.

always a hoot seein' marjoe gortner as the psycho-guardsman and cop george kennedy punchin' out a fellow cop because he doan care about zsa-zsa gabor's hedge.

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what is this? programming for eclectics? only decent film on today's schedule is the poseidon adventure. (maybe beyond the poseidon adventure too if you like seein' veronica hamel wack some guy in the throat with a hatchet) not everyone is gonna go bat-guano nuts over doris day musicals. counter-intuitiveness is having a good run here at tcm.

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NOW HEAR THIS...
this past Sunday's I Love Lucy Superstar Special on CBS beat out the mad men finale on amc.
and doan forget, it was colorized.

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What many people dislike about colorizing, Nip, is that it isn't honest.
Insomuch as colorized movies aren't representative of what was originally presented.
You may use the arguement that color film wasn't available when some certain movie was shot, and THAT'S true, but from a historical view, colorized movies aren't a true representation.
As it would be the same if we "colorized" old Civil War photos.
Worse yet, (shudder) if we were to "colorize" the Ansel Adams catalouge!

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and I would contend that colorizing improves the overall quality of the picture and makes it easier to see and that is why silents are tinted.

while most posters disagree with me on this it is also true that tcm forum posters do not constitute the opinions of the vast majority of cable viewers in the u.s. and Canada.
I contend that most American and Canadian viewers would agree with me on this issue.
let tcm promote a one-nite airing of colorized prints of Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House and Chain Lightning and let us see the public's reaction.

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How about Hot Spell?
sure!

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What many people dislike about colorizing, Nip, is that it isn't honest.
Insomuch as colorized movies aren't representative of what was originally presented.
You may use the arguement that color film wasn't available when some certain movie was shot, and THAT'S true, but from a historical view, colorized movies aren't a true representation.
As it would be the same if we "colorized" old Civil War photos.
Worse yet, (shudder) if we were to "colorize" the Ansel Adams catalouge!

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but if colorizing enhances the enjoyment of old stuff like I Love Lucy, maybe it should be pursued instead of written off.
why then did CBS see fit to colorize these classic episodes? some years ago paramount enhanced the original star trek series with new special effects. nobody has objected to that. is it really wrong to enhance something by colorizing to increase people's enjoyment? I CHALLENGE tcm to show the colorized prints of Bogey's Chain Lightning and Cary and Myrna's Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House and then we'll see. let tcm advertise these presentations. they know people will watch.
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Just want to add to my post re' TOWER OF LONDON. It's directed by Rowland V. Lee who also directed SON OF FRANKENSTEIN. I agree there were some fine movies in the 1970s for adults before the onslaught of over-bloated comic book movies and computer effects and other stuff designed for youngsters. It's not that I hate that stuff; I loved the original STAR WARS and JAWS but I just think it's gone overboard.
way overboard! all Hollywood is churning out now is cgi fests for fifteen year olds.
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Feathers.
Don't ruffle.
lol.
nevertheless, it be so. my rationale has been validated by CBS.


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the new I Love Lucy Superstar Special on CBS last nite. two classic episodes newly colorized.L.A. at Last where Lucy introduces herself to William Holden at The Brown Derby followed by the episode with George Reeves as Superman, both beautifully colorized.Looks like I be not the only one still believing in colorizing.

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of course not. marjoe gortner's nutso national guardsman is irreplaceable.
and what a sense of humor that guy had. no rap music in front of any store where he's a cashier.



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