LornaHansonForbes
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BTW, "Macabre Lava" would be an AWESOME name for a band.
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The great thing about the "original three" is that they are each very different from one another, rather than in competition. The original is the scariest; BRIDE is the most reflective of its director; and SON is just a wonderful tub of boiling macabre lava.
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They remade VOTD last year? I didn't know that. Might have been interesting to see how the story was updated.
No, the clip I posted was a joke someone put on YouTube where they impersonated Madonna in the Hayward role. It was remade for TV sometime in the eighties, and was a bruef series in the nineties, and was even a BBC Radio adaptation in 2005, but I don't think there are any current plans to redo it.
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Dunno. I wanted to see it, but they dumped it in January and I never got to it before it exited theaters. To the poster (cant remember) who said Susann died shortly after VOTD was filmed, she didnt. Cant remember when she died, but it was around a decade later after writing several more books (and enduring several more bad movie adaptations).......
1974.
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have any of you seen ISN'T SHE GREAT? (2000?), the Paul Rudnick-written film bio of Jacqueline Susan starring Bette Midler, Nathan Lane, and Stockard Channing? It was probably one of the worst reviewed-films of the year, cost $44 million, made $3 million and pretty much ended the film careers of almost all involved.
Is it that bad?
(I haven't seen it.)
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LOL!!!!
I was especially amused by the hot male backup dancers during the stage show and the Christmas tree dress ca. 40 seconds in.
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pretty damn funny.
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It would have been interesting to see if Helen Lawson's "Well, at least I never married one" line would have stayed in the movie if the role had been played by Judy Garland, who was originally cast as Helen Lawson.
OMG, that totally did not occur to me.
I admit I did wonder if maybe Liza unleashed that zinger on Judy during one of those mother-daughter spats that flare up from time to time, only to experience major karmic blowback on it later in her life (see: Peter Allen.)
One thing is for sure, marrying a gay guy pretty much gives anyone you get into an argument with the ammo to shut you down on the spot....Unless that person has also married a gay guy at some point in their life or has some equally spotty judgment on their own record, ie letting an escaped axe-murderer into their house because he was dressed like Santa Claus.
ps- in my defense, the beard and costume looked authentic.
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I agree that the first two programs aired had a few issues so I'm glad I kept watching otherwise I would have missed some very good pieces.
I'm sorry, I don't have a DVR and I'm one some medicine that knocks me out. I would've stayed up for more, but I conked out.
I also was surprised by the twist ending of "Sentence Of Death."
Imogene Coca was evil: who knew?
Betsy Palmer (probably best known as Jason's mother in FRIDAY THE 13TH) would laugh/chuckle during her lines, which I found a bit annoying at times. Was she making up the story from her past about the boy and the boat that didn't come back?
Maybe she was laughing because she was nervous (I sometimes do that, so I totally get it). I cannot imagine the nerves involved in doing live TV. To me, "the boy and the boat" bit reeked of "filler," were I editing the script, I would red line that **** on the first read.
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Did people in a poilce line-up actually hear the comments from those identifying them in those days and were they allowed to speak to the identifiers?
There is a scene in another movie- THE ASPHALT JUNGLE- where the criminals in the line-up can see and hear the witnesses lining up to ID them, but I find all that very hard to buy. I think a likelier explanation would be that having them behind the traditional window would require another setpiece that they didn't have or a camera angle they didn't feel like setting up.
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HELEN LAWSON
"Get outta my way: I got a man waitin' for me!"
NEELY O'HARA"Well, that's a switch from the [gentlemen who
prefer the company of gentlemen] you usually
hang with."
HELEN LAWSON
"Well, at least I never married one."
It's over: that's Helen for the win.
I know the wig thing that follows is bad, but I'm sure she's got plenty back home, and whatever, minus the wig, she's a dead ringer for Helen Mirren, and you could certainly do worse than looking like Helen Mirren.
No, Neely serves and Helen lobs that one right down the middle and takes her out.
No arguing.
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I'm torn.
There are two (maybe three) Dean threads, but I know you best of the OPs, so I guess I'll post this here.
I only watched the first two last night. The first, which was a half hour presentation was pretty amateur in its overall execution (the guy playing the hardcore gangster heavy was good though.), but it was interesting to see some of Dean's unrestrained "out there" moments. There was not a lot of "there" to the script though.
The second was better, Dean had a smaller presence, but was more restrained (but still not restrained.) Betsy Palmer with her funny mercedes Macambridge-like voice was interesting, I ended up really liking the guy who played the "good cop" who falls for Palmer and the lady who was married to the murdered druggist who looked a lot like Imogene Coca. And a nice twist at the end.
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Posted this in the HAYWIRE FOR HAYWARD thread, but will also share in case any of you missed it.
Heartbreaking:
ps- in re: The Nancy Reagan Red suit with the Tina Sinatra boots: YES, JUDY, YES!!!
pss: pass on the caftan and the white beaded number or have SERIOUS ALTERATIONS made.
YES ON THE PANTSUIT.
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Wow. Okay. I saw that imdb said it was rated X. Maybe that was the original 1970 rating. I couldn't believe that this film was co-written by Roger Ebert!
He's been dead long enough, I think its fair to be mean again. If not for Rex Reed, Roger Ebert would in all likelihood breast the tape to become the #1 World's Dumbest Film Critic. There. I said it. I kept my yap shut for- how long's it been?- let's just say a year. Whatever. It's out now. Fill the paperwork if you wish to sue.
Both Valley of the Dolls and Beyond Valley of the Dolls come in a 4 film boxed set with All About Eve and The Sixth Inn of Happiness*. That's an interesting collection of films.
Yeah it is. I also saw this. I don't know how many extras each title has, but that's a great combo and I feel like giving a shout-out to THE INN OF THE SIXTH HAPPINESS, which is a good film and is the THE great underappreciated Bergman performance and was directed by the same director, yes seriously, as VALLEY OF THE DOLLS (Mark Robson, AKA "the meanest S O B I ever met"- Patty Duke.) He wwas nominated for Best Director, but the film did not make the Best Picture cut.
*it's actually "The Inn of the Sixth Happiness," but it's cool. It's an unusual title and I cut you some slack.
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That's ridiculous. I guess the prudish censors strike again. A movie could have tons of violence and be PG or PG-13, but show some nudity and/or sex and it's R or X. I know that here in the US, that many movies are originally rated at R and then the filmmakers, in order to appeal to a wider audience, have to remove offending language/scenes in order to get a PG-13. A rated X movie has to make some adjustments to get a R rating. I'm not even sure if movies are rated X anymore, they may get a NC-17 rating now. I'm not even sure if mainstream theaters show NC-17 movies. Someone might have to visit an art-house theater to see those. A NC-17 rating really limits the audience that a mainstream film can get.
In my opinion, the filmmaker should make the film they want to make. The ratings board can assign the rating they want to give. Let the audience decide whether to watch the film or not.
I watched an AMAZING documentary on youtube about just who the members of the MPAA are a while back. It is amazing. I would look it up and try to post the link, but I find posting full videos here results in their getting pulled. (I'm sure you can track it down via wiki or bing, it is WORTH WATCHING.)
They are people who are, I think, appointed for life and have NOTHING to do with the motion picture industry.
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LOL. I just know she made her entrances and exits from stage right, or would it be left? I get my stage directions mixed up! Is it from the audience's viewpoint or the actor's?
I'm sure she could figure it out.
Maybe she was more lax in her hemispherical face policy when doing legit theatuh (back then only so many were gonna see it.)
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LOL. Yeah, something tells me that would be hazardous to your health.......but I don't imagine Colbert was either....
Claudette would be like, "yeah, I'll play it frumpy...on the right side of my face,,,"
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Yeah, but Susan wasn't a bit frumpy! Maybe it would have been funnier if played that way (by both stars)........but I DOUBT IT.
Yeah, good luck getting Susan to play frumpy.
YOU get to go in her trailer and tell her.
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You know Susan would've taken no prisoners..............LOL.
Quite frankly, neither would I.
THAT was what was SO NUTS about the film, that the wife is so cool and seemingly unaffected by this. Even after finding out what Swiss Miss is up to, she plays it low key.
I would be removing my earrings and getting the furniture out of the way to prepare with an epic throwdown...provided the man was worth fighting for.
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And her character's sudden reversal at the end comes out of nowhere and is completely unbelievable. Would think something like this would close on the road. I guess Colbert (Claudette!) and Boyer drew them in (and probably Newmar in some skimpy undress).....
I did not know Colbert and Boyer did the play.
Now it makes sense that it was a hit on Broadway. Those two plus Julie Newmar could probably read the Long Island phonebook and run for at least 300 performances.
Man, what a lucky author to get that level of talent to do your terrible, terrible play. (and of course, I can see the mistake in casting Hayward and Mason for the movie, because while they weren't young at the time, they still had quite a bit of individual sex appeal. I could see where the comedy would come from in the story of a frumpy intellectual middle aged couple who has their marriage challenged by a young babe.)
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YEP! And what woman is named CONTENT? CONTENT? Besides Hayward's role in this movie?? (assuming it was in the play too) LMREO.
I missed that.
Just went to imdb and found Hayward's character was named Content Delville.
What in the living name of all holy Hell is that about?
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Hayward was really miscast,
I know.
In real life, I think we all know Suzie would say, "honey, go in the kitchen and get me the stepladder. I think once I get this ***** by the hair, I can manage to drag her out of here."
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The framing device must've been invented for the movie.........
and it was SO STUPID!
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You're telling me! I watched about half of it, using picture in picture. Hayward was really miscast, but it wasn't her fault. Hard to believe this play ran for a year and a half on Broadway. Nothing to it. I could see Colbert playing the part.
Thought the exact same.
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YES!
(assuming, of course, that you mean Claudette and not Stephen.)
Son of Frankenstein reaction...
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no one has mentioned this thus far, I think, but I read a long interview with Donnie Dunigan (sp?) who plays the kid in this movie and is (IMO) pretty enjoyably terrible in his part ("well Helllooooo there!")
He was later the voice of BAMBI and later than that a US MARINE who served with distinction and was a lifelong serviceman, just a fine human being.
He also told a story about Lionel Atwill, who for the record, is very good as the Inspector in SON OF FRANKENSTEIN) touching him innapropriately and asking young Donnie if he was good at "keeping secrets." Donnie mentioned this to (I think) Basil Rathbone (who he recalled quite fondly) and the situation got shut down ASAP.
SON OF FRANKENSTEIN ended up being Atwill's last hurrah, after a busy decade in the thirties where he did innumerable classic adaptations, horror films, and was even a leading man of Dietrich, he was reduced in the forties to very small roles (including nIGHT MONSTER, another Universal film, where his character is killed off after about three lines of dialogue.)
I will see if I can find the article....