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and I think I mentioned this to you the last time you brought it up, but THE BREAKiNG POiNT is an excellent movie. Do not miss it.THE BREAKING POINT with John Garfield and Patricia Neal is based on the same Hemingway novel (novella?) as TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall.
THE BREAKING POINT is supposedly a more a faithful adapatation of Hemingway's work.
I've never ead the book, but I am looking forward to finally seeing the movie this month during Patricia Neal's Summer Under The Stars tribute.
I always enjoy seeing the clip (Word of Mouth maybe?) that TCM aired with Patricia Neal talking bout how John Garfield described her character to her by saying "You're a wh*re, you know what I mean. You're a wh*re."
I think some consider TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT to be better than the source material.
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as even
seen a Nazi!
Well, you might
without your even
realizing it. They look
like other people and act
like other people- when its
to their benefit.
HE WAS AN OBSCENITY ON THE FACE
OF THE EARTH! THE STENCH OF BURN
ING FLESH WAS ONHIS CLOTHES!!
KillMe,Killme Iwant you to!!
Franz Kindler Icouldn't face
life knowing what I've been
to you and what i've done
To Noah!But when you kill
me,don'tyou you dare put
your hands on me! Here! Use this! Tricks, that's
All you know is tricks! I don't need any tricks!!
And no matter what happens to me, tricks won't do
YOU any good. You're finished HERR FRANZ KINDLER!!
Who would think to look for the notorious Franz
Kindler in the sacred precincts of the Harper
School,surrounded by the sons of America's First
Families?And I'll stay hidden - til the day we
strikeagain.Mankind is waiting forthe Messiah,but
forthe German,the Messiah isntthe Prince of Peace
No,he's... ANOTHER HITLER. Mrs. Rankin, have you
ever heard of a man named Franz Kindler?
Oh, Mrs. Rankin?...pleasant dreams
orson welles loretta young
edward g. robinson in
the stranger
an Orson Welles film.
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In the movie CABARET Brian Robets (the Isherwood character) was gay (athough some will say he's bisexual because of his experience with Sally I say that his "fling" with Sally was a fluke).
It's actually GAY LAW you know,
Article III, Paragraph IV:
Should CONTRACTEE encounter, at any time, one LIZA MINELLI, who in turn, requests sexual services from CONTRACTEE, CONTRACTEE is legally bound to provide sexual services for the duration of time requested by Miss Minelli, not exceeding a period of eighteen (18) months.
(They can kick you out if you don't comply.)
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Muller gave CRISS-CROSS a good sell, and I liked it (and want to see it again) but it tested my patience with the hospital scene...and I have to say, I'm not as big a fan of Robert Siodmak as Muller is ( and by this, I mean his resume on a whole, I do think CRISS CROSS was a well-directed film with some nice directotial flourishes as is THE KILLERS.)
I do think it pulled everything together really well for the ending though- although, overall, it has a touch of a Radio Suspense drama to it- a set-up where you know from the start that it's going to end bad for the protagonist, the only mystery element being just a matter of how they're gonna get it....Like THE KILLERS, there's kind of a "snuff" quality to it.
Muller gives a more critical look at CRISS CROSS in his book DARK CITY, devoting two pages to it and acknowledging its flaws (mainly with concern to suspension of disbelief about some of the harder-to-swallow elements of the film) but he does an interesting comparison of the film to its 1995 remake THE UNDERNEATH, which according to him, explored the motivations of the characters to death and tried too hard to bring the story "down to earth" and mentally digestable for a modern audience.
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...although I will tack on that not only did Gene Tierney not have enough screen time, neither (at least in the first half) did Jean Simmons (who was maybe top-billed in this thing?)
it was very frustrating that the two weakest actors of the lot by a good margin (Darvi and Wilding) had so much screen time when pretty much everyone else was on point- right down to the supporting players (Carradine, Daniell, Ustinov etc.)
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I too think that Tierney was "a revelation". NEver did her eyes glitter so, did she have such a gift for sarcasm--frankly, she acted rings around the rest of the cast & walked off with the film, IMO--Victor Mature & Michael Wilding & the rest of the cast are knocked off the screen by her--please TCM, show this one again!
It is one of the many sad facts in the life of Gene Tierney that, while she was still doing big movies into the 1950's, her presence in many of them is distractingly minimal. Besides THE EGYPTIAN, I can think of two other films- NIGHT AND THE CITY (which is terrific) and BLACK WIDOW (which is not)- where she appears for less than 20 minutes in each. I know this was due to her mental problems, and in many ways it was (allegedly) Zanuck trying to help her out by keeping her semi-occupied, but in many cases it is maddening- because when Gene Tierney is in a film, you want to look at Gene Tierney.
But- back to THE EGYPTIAN, I was dogsitting this past week and staying at an employer's house, which i HAD to get straight as they were coming back that afternoon, so I was forced to walk away from THE EGYPTIAN after an hour and some time- but I kept it on the television. Later on, I was walking past the screen and a woman was talking to Victor Mature- and her voice was so HARD and commanding, I stopped and listened and wondered "who is that?" on looking in close, I saw it was Gene Tierney.....and is there any higher compliment you can pay an actor than you did not at first recognize them in a role?
i'm sorry i couldn't stick around for the ending.
ps- it's worth noting that Mature and Tierney worked together before in 1941 on THE SHANGHAI GESTURE, which is a deliciously bad movie in which Tierney gives a fascinating failure of a performance. Mature isn't very good in it either, but- y'know- I don't think he was as bad an actor as he did. There's a lot of films where I think he's downright good.
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By the way, has anyone mentioned the UTTERLY STUNNING** news that Joel Grey dropped on the world a few months back by coming out of the closet???
** and "UTTERLY STUNNING" I mean "UTTERLY STUNNING to anyone who hasn't seen him for about a minute in CABARET."
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Yes I mentioned Alan C-u-m-m-m-i-n-g earlier in this thread and I noticed that the surname was bleeped.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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I don't understand why Yvonne de Carlo fell in love with such a stupid guy.
Are we talking Burt Lancaster or Fred Gwynne?
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FROM IMDB TRIVIA SECTION:
Marlon Brando was initially signed to appear opposite Bella Darvi in the film. From the time of the first script read-through, the pair disliked each other. Darvi, cast as the courtesan Nefer, was also jeered by more experienced star Jean Simmons, who laughed with other cast members that Darvi was "an actress who 'nefer' was." Just as filming was to start, Brando refused to make the film, his agent telling studio head Darryl F. Zanuck: "He doesn't like the director, he doesn't like the role. And he can't stand Bella Darvi!" Dirk Bogarde was offered the role, but turned it down. Edmund Purdom was finally cast in role of Sinuhe, the physician.
Burn.
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And Tierney was a revelation, totally different from anything I've seen her do before.
please encore this one soon TCM.
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btw,
thanks for starting this thread. i have ten million things i need to be doing today and instead, I watched a good part of THE EGYPTIAN before I JUST HAD to start getting some work done.
I have to admit I am not terribly partial to a lot of the technicolor religious EPICS of the fifties, but this one hooked me in. Aside from the weakness of the male lead**...who I didnt recognize, it was a big, bright Jolly Rancher candy cube of a movie- just brilliant colors everywhere and pretty fun to watch...Michael Curtiz didn't always make great films, but with rare exception, they are by and large not boring- things are always moving moving moving in a Curtiz film.
John Carradine was wonderful in a small part in a wonderful scene, talking grains of sand outliving us all, shatterng the superstitious faith of the Hero who- correct me if I am wrong- is Moses?
(Like I said I couldn't finish it. And I don't have DVR.)
** i IMDB'D it. It's Michael Wilding. Makes sense.
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SWITHIN: "although in the context of this week's news I'm not sure the lion scenes would be appreciated, though that wicked lion near the beginning of the film was about to attack Pharaoh. (end quote)
I know right!
This Lion also seemed to have a black mane as well. Eerie.
I will, however add that that scene was really well done and far better nad more believable than the scene where Victor Mature has to make like Bela Lugosi with the Octopus with a lion skin rug in SAMSON AND DELILILAH.
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an outtake from Joan's Guest Programmer interview with Bob:

You don't talk smack about June Allyson in front of Bob.
You just don't.
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Longhand for PITAs. I hate to beat a dead horse, lol.
I'm just thrilled to know what a PITA is now.
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You have to show for the shindig. Apparently she wouldnt.
Ah, of course.
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I think it's Liz. She looks like a poor man's Liz.
She kind of looks like a hammerhead shark to me (the eyes are real far apart.)
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1999 -- Dustin Hoffman.
2000 -- Harrison Ford.
2001 -- Barbra Streisand.
2003 -- Robert De Niro.
2005 -- George Lucas.
2006 -- Sir Sean Connery.
2007 -- Al Pacino.
2008 -- Warren Beatty
the 1999-2008 inductees are a dubious lot, and with the exception of Hoffman- I think I see a trend in honoring actors and filmmakers who NO ONE WANTED TO WORK WITH ANYMORE* and whose output in the years surrounding the induction was poor to non-existant. Salve for the wounds anyone?
*- I'm looking at you, Barbra and Warren.
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Katharine Hepburn was never inducted?!
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WHATAWORLD
WHATTAWORLD!
WHO WOULD'VE EVER
THOUGHT A GOOD LITTLE GIRL LIKE YOU
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!!! I'MGOING I'M GOING! !!!
YOU CURSED BRAT!
LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!
I'M MELTING MELLLLLTING!!!
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I'm a long time fan of Martin, but find it sad that his early films were creative and different, but then he became the 're-make guy'..the father of the bride stuff and the out of towners (a terrible thing to do to the hilarious original). Evidently he just isn't writing anymore, or Hollywood just isn't interested. Luckily we still have his past work to enjoy.
And don't forget THE PINK PANTHER and CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN...and vicariously CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2: THE UN-CALLED FOR.
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and as a side note, i have noticed it makes a big difference whether you're viewing these images on a big computer screen or a small phone screen- the small phone screen makes the ones shaped like things turn out not right, but the abstract pieces actually look better on a phone screen.
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TooLateForTears!
thestrangeloveof
MARTHA IVERS
THE ASPHALT JUNGLE
Possessed THE SUSPECT
THE STRANGER touch of evil
IS THE FACE ON THE TRAIN
SHE GAVE YOUR VERY FIRST KISS
SUDDEN FEAR! THE NAKED CITY CRIME WAVE MANHANDLED
The Accused THE THIRD MAN the dark corner cause for
DOUBLE INDEMNITY ACE IN THE HOLEshadowofadoubt
THE LETTER KEY LARGO KISS ME DEADLY GILDAwhiteheat
farewell my lovely out of the past mildred pierce
NOTORIOUS THE BIG SLEEP DARK PASSAGE THE BIG HEAT
FORCE OF EVIL the hard way the harder Beyond a reason
they Fall HE RAN ALL THE WAY BODY AND able Doubt
kiss the blood off of my hands I DIED ATHOUSANDTIMES!
**** T H E M A L T E S E F A L C O N ***** THE DAMNED DONT
ALL RIGHT, I ADMIT IT- THIS ONE DIDN'T TURN OUT QUITE RIGHT, BUT IT TICKLES ME THAT IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A MELTING HERSHEY'S KISS, SO i'M'A'Gonna leave it for now.
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It's hard to believe Shirley MacLaine was not inducted until just a few years ago.
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Hemingway Novel vs Movie
in General Discussions
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TSAR is the SEINFELD of its time.
they're both about nothing.