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SERIOUSLY: WATCH THE SILENT 1925 VERSION! It is so much better. I've never appreciated the story at all until I saw the silent version. Hopefully TCM'll show it again soon, but if not you can maybe netflix it or possibly watch it online, if you're in to that sort of thing.
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...oH AND i FORGOT to mention that Jacques Tourner (sp?) directed EASY LIVING. That man has one kooky filmography.
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THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS
LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
-Sam's going away. Did you hear what I said, Walter? - Yes, I heard you. -We can't let him go, can we? -Martha's waiting for your answer, Walter. -We'd always be afraid of him. We couldn't live that way. We'd be fools to let him go, knowing so much about us. -You may have a little trouble squaring this one. -You broke into the house. You demanded money. You tried to attack me and I shot you in self-defense. I've a right to kill in self-defense. That's what the law says, doesn't it, Walter? Isn't that what the law says, Walter? -
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A sequel THE NARROW MARGIN 2: PROBLEM CHILD which dealt with McGraw's increasingly futile attempts to bring his new stepson Junior into line was planned, but not produced. Seriosuly though, I really don't think McGraw is thinking it through here on hooking up with the mobster's widow; clearly her mothering skills need some work and she obviously lacks good judgment- and all the while she looks like she'd be a real uptight drag to live with. I give it 18 months at best, and 2:1 it ends in murder/suicide.
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THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS
LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
"Now, Sam. Do it now. Set me free. Set both of us free. He fell down the stairs and fractured his skull. That's how he died. Everybody knows what a heavy drinker he was. Sam, it can be so easy. - I thought you loved me. - I thought I did, too. - Now, you hate me. - Now I'm sorry for you. -When I dreamed about you coming back... -Your whole life has been a dream. -I thought you'd be the Sam I knew as a child. -Martha, you're sick. -I could run to you when I was in trouble. -In your mind, I mean, that's where you're sick. -And you'd help me. -So sick that you don't even know the difference...between right and wrong anymore. -You've killed. It says so in your record. -I've never murdered. -
I watched THE NARROW MARGIN LAST NIGHT. While I would still rate it **1/2 stars out of a potential four, I have to say I was wrong in being dismissive of McGraw. He's really good....and although I don't care for the farcical scenes near the middle (re: the breakfast tray and the ANNOYING KID)- he handles them well and would have been great at comedy. I in particular can only imagine what he could have done in with the Tracy Role in FATHER OF THE BRIDE. THAT KID THOUGH. He brings the whole thing down every second he is on screen. I have to say, despite The Cid's correction- and a smart line of dialogue that was alongf the lines of "all kinds of women are married to crooks, I've always heard that, but didn't believe it til now" I STILL don't quite buy the Actress who plays the Real Mrs. Neal in the role. ps- why was Marie Windsor- ultimately revealed to be an internal affairs cop- trying SO HARD to coerce Charles McGraw into selling her out to the hitmen? Does she not realize that: A. That is entrapment. B. The successful endgame of this will be her death.
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Her peroxide bills were a b****. Marie Windsor did a few episodes of MURDER SHE WROTE- playing drastically different characters in each and is great. There's also an old MGM short where she plays Marie Antoinette
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yes, yes, yes, and yes. And the music is terrific too.
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I was being kind of facetious about the " bus noir" thing, but I do recall hearing that "it happened one night" was originally called "night bus"...I would love to see that movie reworked as a film noir, but then again I would rather see nearly all of Frank Capras movies reworked as films noir. "It's a Wonderful Life" would become "Pottersville" and John Doe would hit that pavement like a sack of flour in my versions.
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I dunno, from what I've heard about (and what little I've seen of) MY SON JOHN it seems like the fact that it was even nominated is at least an equal crime.
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But you get the feeling the backstory was really something....
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THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS
LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
To take it back to this picture there, I mean- wow- beyond the fact that this is an ODD LOBBY CARD, and raises all sorts of questions, I have to add that one observation I make is how damned inconsiderate Toni is being here. I mean, just take your half right out of the middle, honey, no need to make room for me. This is the sort of thing that would not be tolerated three months down the line in a relationship, and after about three years of marriage would likely result in someone getting dragged off the bed by the ankles, followed by the remark "that's nothing compared to what I'll do if you ever don't replace the Half and Half when you use it all again." -
I'm bumping this up without shame. I listened to it last night and it is really something. For ALL YOU NOIR fans out there, it's something YOU MUST HEAR. Again, PLEASE GIVE IT A LISTEN IF YOU HAVE A SPARE THIRTY MINUTES, and let me know if you do. And if you like it, I highly recommend giving other episodes of The Molle Mystery Theater a shot. (I've really gotten in to classic radio this summer.)
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LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
"Who THE HELL didn't WHISPER my NAME???!!!!" -
I will also note that the director of THE NARROW MARGIN, Richard Fleischer went on to have a real SCUD Missile of a career. He went on to do a lot of potboilers, one more solid noir that I like very much (COMPULSION 1959- HIS BEST FILM) some big big movies like 20000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, DOCTOR DOOLITE and SOYLENT GREEN, the contoversial CHE! and THE BOSTON STRANGLER and ended his film with a trio of dogs: AMITYVILLE 3-D, MILLION DOLLAR MYSTERY and the infamous RED SONJA. He also directed CONAN THE BARBARIAN. I think the phrase "where's my cocaine?" was heard a lot on the set of his films.
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I like everyything you wrote, but to single out these three statements of yours: 1. Dang. I had a feeling I was remembering it wrong. Thanks for that correction. 2. Aren't trains the BEST? I took an Amtrak last summer and just loved the experience to pieces. It was as if time had stopped and I was back in 1953, and I loved being able to see many of the towns I miss when I just take the highway. It was hard to believe something like this is still around in 2015. 3. As a fan of Mystery Science Theater 3000, I have seen Swamp Women aka Swamp Diamonds numerous times. It is typical Roger Corman film- thoroughly paint-by-numbers with every decision in the storytelling process clearly dictated by the bottom line. Roger Corman was one of the worst directors EVER and how he gets this reputation as an Indie Maverick galls me. However, I bow at the altar of Marie Windsor and love her in almost everything she did- such a damn shame she didn't ever get THAT BIG ROLE to put her over, but she is good in everything, even her TV and short film appearances.
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Shame the makers didn't decide to embrace the uber-potential of a noir set on a Greyhound Bus. If ever there was a perfect setting for a noir, it's that.
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in re: the post below. Wow, I've said before, but here's one more time, I really wonder what the Academy was smoking in 1952 that in nearly every category the nominations were so off. MY SON JOHN was an Oscar nominee and the winner, THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, became the first screenplay written in Crayon to be awarded an Oscar.
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YES! That kid, I meant to mention that kid, but forgot. I hate that kid. Best Writing, Motion Picture Story WINNER The Greatest Show on Earth : Fredric M. Frank , Theodore St. John , Frank Cavett NOMINEES My Son John : Leo McCarey The Narrow Margin : Martin Goldsmith , Jack Leonard The Pride of St. Louis : Guy Trosper The Sniper : Edna Anhalt , Edward Anhalt
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THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS
LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
Another possible alternate title for MARTHA IVERS: TONIGHT I EAT YOUR FACE! -
THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS
LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
"What strange mints they leave after turndown at this hotel..." -
"But she's as sweet as can be...C'mon...For a pal?"
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SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS in re: THE NARROW MARGIN It's been a little while since I've seen it, but I've sat all the way through it a couple of times and then seen bits and pieces of it on a few other occasions....and each time I wanted to like it, but each time I found it dull and didn't find Charles McGraw to be that interesting, and I ADORE Marie Windsor, but...I don't care for her in this role at all. There are also numerous instances where her expressions when she is alone do not match up with the truth about her character when we find it out. That's an awkward sentence, I know, but basically I'll just say that once you know the plot twist and you rewatch the film, you'll see that a lot of things that don't add up. I think a lot of the dialogue is weak and the situations needed some punching up and it is obviously a cheap film without much directorial flourish (again, as I recall it.) Specific beefs I can recall having- there is an extended scene wherein McGraw tries to get breakfast for Marie Windsor's character without letting anyone know she's in his compartment. It's too drawn out and farcical and doesn't fit the tone of the movie. I also don't like that Windsor's character doesn't get a proper send off, a simple shot of a body being unloaded from the train while McGraw looks on would be nice. I also don't buy the actress playing the real mob wife, she seems about as mafia to me as June Allyson. Again, I know this was a little disjointed, I will certainly try to watch it again tomorrow- but each time I see some of it, little issues pop up here and there.
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LornaHansonForbes replied to HoldenIsHere's topic in General Discussions
I guess the title was long and odd as it was, calling the film The Strange Love of She Whose Name Must Only Be Whispered wouldn't have fit the marquis.
