LornaHansonForbes

I'd say "STUNNING" was more the mot juste ...(i only just now got up off the floor where i landed after passing out from shock a minute ago)

wait.....WHAT???????????????? IF YOU TOLD ME THEY DISCOVERED THE SURFACE OF MARS WAS COVERED IN LOBSTERS, I COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE MORE STUNNED THAN I AM BY THIS NEWS. DAMN, NOW THAT I KNOW THIS, HE SHOULD'VE BEAT JOHN MILLS IN "RYAN'S DAUGHTER" FOR SUPPORTING ACTOR!!!!! THAT IS *ONE HELL* OF A PERFORMANCE!

I'll say it before and I'll say it again, there's nuthin like a bad review from me to make people FLOCK TO SEE SOMETHING! (I'm like the BOSLEY CROWTHER of this site)

(heavy sigh) Hoo boy, I don't know where to even begin with this one. [EDIT- i APOLOGIZE FOR MY LANGUAGE IN THIS ONE] Spurred on by catching some of THE CELLULOID CLOSET, I watched the 1970 version of THE BOYS IN THE BAND, which (surprise here) I have never seen before. the most common word people use to describe this movie (before proceeding to QUICKLY tack on how grateful they were for it and how trailblazing it was) is "dated"- which is a stupid way to describe any movie because ALL movies ARE DATED. They all came out in a certain year and then, as opposed to freezing completely, TIME MOVED ON (as it does)...Thus, EVERY MOVIE EVER IS "DATED" WHETHER IT TRIES TO BE OR NOT. "Dated" in the case of THE BOYS IN THE BAND is (IRONICALLY) A POLITE WAY OF SAYING "THIS MOVIE IS ***ING HATEFUL to its CORE" because SERIOUSLY, EVEN I GOT TIRED OF ALL THE PETTY B!TCHERY AND SNIPING BY LIKE AN HOUR INTO IT, AND I USUALLY HAVE AN ENDLESS APPETITE FOR PETTY B!TCHERY AND SNIPING- (WHY DO I EVEN NEED TO SAY THIS, ARE THERE ANY OF YOU WHO KNOW ME WHO DOUBT IT?) It's basically the story of A FABULOUS NEW YORK APARTMENT with terrace, and some people who happen to be inside of it one evening ... including THE WICKED WITCH OF THE WEST: who IS HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR HER SISTER, THE EQUALLY VICIOUS BUT MORE CASUALLY EVIL WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST: over the course of the next hour and a half there is just so much venom spewing and theatrics and JAZZ HANDS! and, I have to say- the writer of the play VERY CLEARLY INSERTED HIMSELF INTO THE ROLE OF THE MAIN CHARACTER- and as such, (nearly) every other role is terribly underwritten or brushed over in the broadest of broad strokes, most especially the single BLACK GAY MAN who for some reason wants to hang out with this ****ing COVEN of petty F@GGOTRY. ** LIKE DO YOU GUYS DO THIS EVERY WEEK????? sorry, this movie just wore me the HELL out. any of you who were around when it came out, did it strike you the same way? **sorry for this, but i tried and failed to think of any other way to say it.

MIGHT I ADD: a completely hare-brained, idiotic, nonsensical. NTH-Rate HACK idea for a movie and STOCKWELL in his role works so hard at selling it, I'm not the least bit surprised that HOLLYWOOD ending up making the movie for real years later (as THE LIFE OF DAVID GALE) DEAN STOCKWELL gives, in retrospect, one of the most pivotal, important performances of the film.

YES THANK YOU! And sorry for misspelling JOEL'S name, I NEVER, EVER GET IT RIGHT.

HE KEPT WORKING STEADILY AFTER 1988 as well...mostly in TV.

HERE IS A PARTIAL FILMOGRAPHY FOR DEAN STOCKWELL (I LEFT OFF HIS LATER CREDITS SO IT WOULD NOT BE A SUPER LONG POST) EACH OF THESE IS A CLICKABLE LINK TO THE IMDB PAGE FOR IT: The Long Haul Mario 1988 Buying Time Detective Novak 1988 Smokescreen Michael Dattalico 1988 Tucker: The Man and His Dream Howard Hughes 1988 Married to the Mob Tony 'The Tiger' Russo 1988 Murder, She Wrote (TV Series) Elliot Easterbrook - Deadpan (1988) ... Elliot Easterbrook 1988 The Blue Iguana Detective Carl Strick 1987 Banzai Runner Billy Baxter 1987 The Time Guardian Boss 1987 Kenny Rogers as The Gambler, Part III: The Legend Continues (TV Movie) James McLaughlin 1987 Beverly Hills Cop II Chip Cain 1987 Gardens of Stone Homer Thomas 1987 Hunter (TV Series) Brother Hobarts - Bad Company (1987) ... Brother Hobarts 1986 Blue Velvet Ben 1985 Miami Vice (TV Series) Jack Gretsky - Bushido (1985) ... Jack Gretsky 1985 Papa Was a Preacher John 1985 Once Bitten Valet Attendant (uncredited) 1985 To Live and Die in L.A. Bob Grimes 1985 The Legend of Billie Jean Muldaur 1984 To Kill a Stranger John Carver 1984 Dune Doctor Wellington Yueh 1984 Fox Mystery Theater (TV Series) Greg Denver - The Sweet Scent of Death (1984) ... Greg Denver 1984 Paris, Texas Walt Henderson 1983 Simon & Simon (TV Series) Dr. Griss - The Skeleton Who Came Out of the Closet (1983) ... Dr. Griss 1983 The A-Team (TV Series) Police Officer Collins - A Small and Deadly War (1983) ... Police Officer Collins 1982 Alsino and the Condor Frank 1982 Hart to Hart (TV Series) James Francis - Hart's Desire (1982) ... James Francis 1982 Human Highway Otto Quartz 1982 Wrong Is Right Hacker 1981 Born to Be Sold (TV Movie) Marty Helick 1979 She Came to the Valley Pat Westall 1978 Greatest Heroes of the Bible (TV Series) Hissar - Daniel in the Lions' Den (1978) ... Hissar 1977 A Killing Affair (TV Movie) Kenneth Switzer 1977 Tales of the Unexpected (TV Series) Richard Ayres - No Way Out (1977) ... Richard Ayres 1976 One Away Pete Bass 1976 McCloud (TV Series) Pete Lancaster - 'Twas the Fight Before Christmas... (1976) ... Pete Lancaster 1976 Won Ton Ton: The Dog Who Saved Hollywood Paul Lavell 1976 Tracks Mark 1973-1976 Police Story (TV Series) Bennett / Callan / Detective Giacino / ... - Eamon Kinsella Royce (1976) ... Bennett - The Return of Joe Forrester (1975) ... Callan - Love, Mabel (1974) ... Detective Giacino - Collision Course (1973) ... Ott 1975 Ellery Queen (TV Series) Cliff Waddell - The Adventure of the Blunt Instrument (1975) ... Cliff Waddell 1975 Cannon (TV Series) Tom Longman - The Hero (1975) ... Tom Longman 1975 Three for the Road (TV Series) Ethan Crawford - The Trail of Bigfoot (1975) ... Ethan Crawford 1975 Cop on the Beat (TV Movie) Det. Callan 1975 Joe Forrester (TV Series) Detective Callan - The Return of Joe Forrester (1975) ... Detective Callan 1972-1975 Columbo (TV Series) Lloyd Harrington / Eric Wagner - Troubled Waters (1975) ... Lloyd Harrington - The Most Crucial Game (1972) ... Eric Wagner 1973-1975 The Streets of San Francisco (TV Series) Charlie Blake / Paul Thomas / Paul Cullen - The Programming of Charlie Blake (1975) ... Charlie Blake - Legion of the Lost (1973) ... Paul Thomas / Paul Cullen 1974 Win, Place or Steal Billy 1974 The Pacific Connection Miguel 1974 Police Surgeon (TV Series) Counselor Paul Madden - Deadly Exchange (1974) ... Counselor Paul Madden 1973 The Werewolf of Washington Jack Whittier 1973 Orson Welles' Great Mysteries (TV Series) Jerry - Unseen Alibi (1973) ... Jerry 1973 Night Gallery (TV Series) Charlie Evans - Whisper (1973) ... Charlie Evans 1973 Mission: Impossible (TV Series) Gunnar Malstrom - The Pendulum (1973) ... Gunnar Malstrom 1968-1972 The F.B.I. (TV Series) Darryl Ryder / Michael Vincent Riley - End of a Nightmare (1972) ... Darryl Ryder - The Quarry (1968) ... Michael Vincent Riley 1972 The Loners Stein 1972 Adventures of Nick Carter (TV Movie) Freddy Duncan 1971 The Failing of Raymond (TV Movie) Raymond 1971 Paper Man (TV Movie) Avery Jensen 1971 Mannix (TV Series) Chris Townsend - A Step in Time (1971) ... Chris Townsend 1971 The Last Movie Billy the Kid 1970 The Dunwich Horror Wilbur Whateley 1969 Bonanza (TV Series) Matthew Rush - The Medal (1969) ... Matthew Rush 1968 Thirty-Minute Theatre (TV Series) The Man - Before Breakfast (1968) ... The Man 1968 Psych-Out Dave 1968 The Danny Thomas Hour (TV Series) Bruno - The Cage (1968) ... Bruno 1965 Dr. Kildare (TV Series) Dr. Rudy Devereux / Dr. Rudy Devereaux - A Pyrotechnic Display (1965) ... Dr. Rudy Devereux - Now the Mummy (1965) ... Dr. Rudy Devereaux - Enough La Boheme for Everybody (1965) ... Dr. Rudy Devereux - Some Doors Are Slamming (1965) ... Dr. Rudy Devereux - Life in the Dance Hall (1965) ... Dr. Rudy Devereux Show all 6 episodes 1965 Rapture Joseph 1964 Burke's Law (TV Series) Jay Boy Calhoun - Who Killed Lenore Wingfield? (1964) ... Jay Boy Calhoun 1964 Kraft Suspense Theatre (TV Series) Martin Rosetti - Their Own Executioners (1964) ... Martin Rosetti 1964 The Eleventh Hour (TV Series) David Farnham - To Love Is to Live (1964) ... David Farnham 1963 The Defenders (TV Series) Arnold Foster - Climate of Evil (1963) ... Arnold Foster 1963 The Greatest Show on Earth (TV Series) Harley Brydell - The Wrecker (1963) ... Harley Brydell 1963 Combat! (TV Series) Rob Lawson - High Named Today (1963) ... Rob Lawson 1961-1962 The Dick Powell Theatre (TV Series) Gary Harper / Joe Geary - In Search of a Son (1962) ... Gary Harper - The Geetas Box (1961) ... Joe Geary 1962 The Alfred Hitchcock Hour (TV Series) David H. Kelsey / William Newmaster - Annabel (1962) ... David H. Kelsey / William Newmaster 1962 Long Day's Journey Into Night Edmund Tyrone 1962 Alcoa Premiere (TV Series) Clay Bannon - A Place to Hide (1962) ... Clay Bannon 1961 The Twilight Zone (TV Series) Lt. Katell / Lt. Yamuri - A Quality of Mercy (1961) ... Lt. Katell / Lt. Yamuri 1961 Bus Stop (TV Series) Buzz Shelby - Afternoon of a Cowboy (1961) ... Buzz Shelby 1961 The Joke and the Valley (TV Movie) Davis Tucker 1957-1961 Wagon Train (TV Series) Will Santee / Rodney Lawrence / Juan Ortega / ... - The Will Santee Story (1961) ... Will Santee - The Rodney Lawrence Story (1959) ... Rodney Lawrence - The Juan Ortega Story (1958) ... Juan Ortega - The Ruth Owens Story (1957) ... Jimmy Drew 1961 Alfred Hitchcock Presents (TV Series) Billy Weaver - The Landlady (1961) ... Billy Weaver 1961 Outlaws (TV Series) Billy Joe Minden - Assassin (1961) ... Billy Joe Minden 1960 The DuPont Show with June Allyson (TV Series) Johnny Perry - The Dance Man (1960) ... Johnny Perry 1960 Checkmate (TV Series) Roddy Stevenson - The Cyanide Touch (1960) ... Roddy Stevenson 1960 Sons and Lovers Paul Morel 1959 Buick-Electra Playhouse (TV Series) Nick Adams - The Killers (1959) ... Nick Adams 1959 Johnny Staccato (TV Series) Dave - the Slasher - Nature of the Night (1959) ... Dave - the Slasher 1959 Compulsion Judd Steiner 1959 Playhouse 90 (TV Series) Roy Riverlee - Made in Japan (1959) ... Roy Riverlee 1958-1959 General Electric Theater (TV Series) Clete Weber / Private First Class John Townsend - The Family Man (1959) ... Clete Weber - God Is My Judge (1958) ... Private First Class John Townsend 1958 Cimarron City (TV Series) Bud Tatum - Kid on a Calico Horse (1958) ... Bud Tatum 1957 Men of Annapolis (TV Series) Midshipman Johnny - Ship's Log (1957) ... Midshipman Johnny 1957 The Careless Years Jerry Vernon 1957 Climax! (TV Series) Les Marshall - Murder Is a Witch (1957) ... Les Marshall 1957 The United States Steel Hour (TV Series) - Victim (1957) 1956 Gun for a Coward Hade Keough 1956 Schlitz Playhouse (TV Series) - Washington Incident (1956) 1956 Matinee Theatre (TV Series) Carl Mittelbach - Julie (1956) - Horsepower (1956) ... Carl Mittelbach - Class of '58 (1956) - Fight the Whole World (1956) 1956 Front Row Center (TV Series) David - Innocent Witness (1956) ... David 1951 Cattle Drive Chester Graham, Jr. 1950 Kim Kimball 'Kim' O'Hara Jr. 1950 The Happy Years John Humperdink 'Dink' Stover 1950 Stars in My Crown John Kenyon 1949 The Secret Garden Colin Craven 1949 Down to the Sea in Ships Jed Joy 1948 The Boy with Green Hair Peter 1948 Deep Waters Donny Mitchell 1947 Gentleman's Agreement Tommy Green 1947 Song of the Thin Man Nick Charles Jr. 1947 The Romance of Rosy Ridge Andrew MacBean 1947 The Arnelo Affair Ricky Parkson 1947 A Really Important Person (Short) Billy Reilly 1947 The Mighty McGurk Nipper 1946 Home, Sweet Homicide Archie Carstairs 1946 The Green Years Robert Shannon (as a child) 1945 Bud Abbott and Lou Costello in Hollywood Dean (uncredited) 1945 Anchors Aweigh Donald Martin 1945 The Valley of Decision Paulie

"I am thinking today of that beautiful land I shall reach when the sun goeth down When through wonderful grace by my Saviour I stand Will there be any stars in my crown? Will there be any stars, any stars in my crown? When at evening the sun goeth down When I wake with the blest in those mansions of rest Will there be any stars in my crown?"

STARS IN MY CROWN (1950) with JOEL MCREA and DOWN TO THE SEA IN SHIPS (1949) with LIONEL BARRYMORE are both WONDERFUL.

Also, this thread has nearly 800 views and almost 70 replies, so if anyone at TCM is watching, give Kent Smith that SUTS day! (And give Katharine Hepburn the month off, Lord knows she’s made enough appearances.)

He’s about to be devoured, digested and spit up the poor dope...just like a gecko in a nature film.

THE BEST CHILD ACTOR OF ALL TIME. (Period.)

Aw, damn.

Thank you! It is shameful how little I know of silent films, and sadly if a remake or another film uses the same title of a classic property (ie the 2003 film UNDERWORLD), I find that imdb listings for the newer movie(s) tend to come before the listing for the original (and sometimes the original does not come up in the initial search results.)

What is UNDERWORLD? Just Looked it up on IMDb and did not find an entry. (My knowledge of silents is kind of spotty.)

also also in re: TAKING TAGER MOUNTAIN, while I do give it a hard time for not being quite right in some of its predictions 9and its production design), there were a lot of things that seemed quite prescient and even clever in predicting.

yes, i read up on that, it sounds pretty bad (it includes some modern handheld cellphone footage and a new ending...which i guess can't be too much worse than the non-ending they went with in 1983.) all in all, as disturbed as I was of the scenes of PAXTON with the YOUNG BOY, it was not a bad film or a badly made film. Weird as **** though...definite CARNIVAL OF SOULS vibe.

yes, I did a real TRIPLE TAKE when I read that on wikipedia!!!!

for the first time in a long long time, I watched a non-horror classic film on TCM, CONFESSIONS OF A NAZI SPY (1939)- which was an early docudrama-style picture about GERMAN SPIES LIVING IN AMERICA, I could see a young MARK HELLINGER in the audience taking notes. NAZIS, I HATE THESE GUYS- but damned if I won't watch just about anything about 'em, and this was a pretty engaging film...largely for its prescience, but also for the FOUR DIFFERENT ACTORS who pop up throughout the proceedings- all four of whom would have drastically different career trajectories in the coming decades. FRANCIS LEDERER- a handsome man- who abandons his vanity for his part and does a tremendous job, but who would not have much of a career in film, although he would appear in others (including MIDNIGHT from the same year) EDWARD G ROBINSON, who dominates in all of his 15(ish) minutes of screentime- this might just be the genesis of EDDIE G's "stalwart highly competent investIgator" type that would show up later in DOUBLE INDEMNITY and THE STRANGER. GEORGE SANDERS is in it with a flat top (!) and a German accent (!!) playing a Nazi (!!!) and he is invested.... PAUL LUKAS is also in it and he is adequate, which is the nicest thing I think I have ever had to say about him.

I am however amused by the fact that in 1983 they looked 40 years into the future and saw that everyone would be driving ****ty late 70s European cars and using big clunky, Selectric typewriters. Also no cell phones or Internet. just uncanny.

I feel like I need to elaborate just a little bit and give a fair warning here, TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN Which aired on TCM last night and which is available on demand has a hard core, explicit, actual sex scene between Bill Paxton and the young actress which alternates between scenes of Paxton with the actress and Paxton in bed with a 12 year old boy. Nothing overtly sexual happens with the boy, just embraces, but it’s very disturbing. Sorry, I’ve never heard of this film before. I’m watching for the first it just now, but since I brought up the subject and have a lot of you interested, I feel guilty not warning you as I just saw the scene. its very disturbing

Oh my. yeah, this is definitely not a film for everyone.... wow.

Oh my. I just saw an honest to God hardcore XXX oral sex act in a movie airing on TCM!!!!!! this one may not be for everyone....