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> {quote:title=TopBilled wrote:}{quote}I don't particularly like TCM's original programming. In fact, I don't think I really like it at all, come to think of it. Now, interviewing 100 year old Luise Rainer, that is good original programming...but much of the other programming doesn't work for me, doesn't work for this conservative to like it. Sorry. My viewpoint will not be swayed. I just don't know what to say about your post except I'm sure you have films DVR'd or other programming to watch that night. I still don't see where politics fit in with this programming, though.

> {quote:title=JonnyGeetar wrote:}{quote} > > Go buy the Broadway album or listen to it on youtube. This could have been the last great musical, instead it's one of the most frustrating misfires in all Hollywood history. > > Edited by: JonnyGeetar on Oct 22, 2011 5:51 PM You should clarify this is your opinion only. I happen to like this movie a lot. You can call me all the names you want & insult my intelligence along dumping on a movie that apparently means a lot to SansFin. But your comments are opinion only.

> {quote:title=jcutie wrote:}{quote} > Can't wait until Robert Osborne comes back. The hosts they have had are sooo bad - Winona Ryder, that Melveyn LeRoy daughter (I think), the editor from Rolling Stones, Leonard Maltin. Couldn't they get some big names. Alec Bladwin was the best for the essentials. He knows something about old movies, has great repoir with R. Osborne, treats him with respect, speaks intelligently and with emotion in a convincing manner. Every other essentials host dims in comparison if you ask me. He also brought star quality to TCM with a hip actor who isn't retired or a has been like Winona Ryder and who ever that Melvyng Douglas or LeRoy woman is? She was horrible. > > I don't know who they are going to find if they have to replace R. Osborne but they better find somebody good. The **** hosts they've had on in the past three months don't cut it. I think for the most part, the guest hosts have done a great job. And the woman who you seem to loathe the most is Illeana Douglas, granddaughter of Melvyn Douglas. That doesn't mean I haven't missed Robert Osborne because I have. And I'm thinking Chris Isaak is probably very busy. He still tours & occasionally acts in films. He is very handsome though, even though I didn't like the suit he wore last night. Normally he's a flashier dresser.

I think the general rule of thumb in the US is that if an item is at least 100 years old, it's considered antique, although I think for cars the criteria is a little looser since most autos have been built within the last 100 years. A lot of things are classified as "vintage" if the item is less than 100 years old. But I'm not an expert--it's just info I've gleaned from years of watching shows about antiques. Edited by: helenbaby on Oct 11, 2011 8:07 AM

> {quote:title=thestick wrote:}{quote}TopBilled, I'm with you on this one but then everyone around here knows by now I'm a HUGE Angela Lansbury fan. I think she'd be great as SOTM and I wonder if she's ever been on Guest Programmer? Does anybody know? I'm not sure if she's ever been a Guest Programmer, but she did a Private Screenings episode with RO a few years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if that was shown during January as well. It's not that I like or dislike Lansbury, she's fine and has done some good films. It's just that I feel like her films are shown with great frequency and I'd like to see someone honored whose films we don't see on a regular basis.

> {quote:title=Scottman wrote:}{quote}I am looking forward to reassessing Buster's sound features. > I must admit though that I really don't care much for FREE AND EASY. It has a few really nice gags, but trying to make poor Buster the "sad clown" at the end, was so not Keaton's style. > Who knows, maybe I'll find a few gems in the bunch? I saw Parlor, Bedroom and Bath a couple of years ago on TCM and I thought it was pretty funny. Sidewalks of New York has the lovely Anita Page. I recommend both.

I always thought that it starts with a love for history. Classic films & antiques tie into that love. Some of my favorite TV shows are shows that have something to do with antiques or history. I know that a lot of people feel like shows such as Pawn Stars & American Pickers are too contrived, but what I like about those shows are the stories about the items being bought & sold. I've always loved Antiques Roadshow for the same reason, and of course, when the people have really valuable items, I'm thrilled for them. Funny thing is that I don't really own any good antiques. I have a couple of old beds that probably come close but aren't really that special or anything. My mom died last year and when we were cleaning out her house we came across a bunch of stuff I never knew she had. I didn't keep much of it, but one thing I did keep were some brocheurs about Washington DC that I'm pretty sure my parents picked up in 1953 when my mom was very pregnant with me and they went there on vacation with my grandmother. Those are really cool.

> {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote}I missed THE CONSTANT NYMPH, drat it all to pieces. > > Mom on BATTLE CIRCUS: "Do you think June Allyson is the right sort of woman for Humphrey Bogart?". > > Watched a bit of SUMMER HOLIDAY. The songs went right out of my head as I was listening to them. But of course I loved the Mediterrane/an scenery. Summer Holiday has to be one of the most stupid movies I've ever subjected myself to, and I love those stupid Beach Party movies. I had it on but when Cliff Richard starting singing about the 10th awful song, 45 minutes into it, I had to change the channel.

> {quote:title=MGMMayer wrote:}{quote} > ==================================== > > Actually, I do for a while....but I get fired up again when people say that Ben M. should be kept on TCM because he's "hot" and looks sexy in jeans. I have no problem with Ben being a host on TCM, but his "hotness" shouldn't be a deciding factor....That's what killed AMC after they axed Bob Dorian and Nick Clooney and brought in "young and hot" hosts! That's not what killed AMC--the people who bought it changed their focus from trying to compete with TCM without sufficient ammunition to competing with TNT & FX where they could air original programming & go after the young male demographic by airing frequently shown action films. And there's nothing wrong with liking a guy's style if he comes across as personable--which I think both Robert Osborne & Ben Mankiewicz do. And anyway, I thought this thread was a parody, not actually a serious call for firing Ben M. Someone is always trying to get him fired.

Chris Isaak is very easy on the eyes. I look forward to a week with him. Travers is a very good in print and is very knowledgable. I've missed Robert a lot.

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}It's sure hot today. I think this is the hottest day of this summer. You must be having a Hot Spell in your area. Speaking of which.....

Dark at the Top of the Stairs (1960) I know I've seen this film in the last 20 years, although I don't remember which channel it was on, but it seems like I remember it being listed on TCM's schedule in the last 2 years. If anyone has Now Playing or copies of the schedule (and I know some of you do) maybe they could check. I know that really doesn't help now, but it would ease my mind. I checked the reviews & message boards on IMDB because sometimes folks will include where they viewed it in their review or the message board will have a heads-up thread for those interested in watching.

I don't understand why folks are upset about the substitution. *Lonely Are The Brave* has been on TCM numerous times in the past and will probably be on again in the future. Now where is *Hot Spell* ? (Kidding--just kidding!)

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}I didn't see most of the film. Did she pull it off better than did Ginger Rogers in THE MOJOR AND THE MINOR? Yes, she did. For the record, Peter Lorre was more handsome than I'd ever seen him in any film.

Well, I was going to try to go this time but already have tentative plans for that week. I'm going on the cruise in December so I guess that has to do until 2013.

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > > Please no more Winona! She was like all the ladies who have filled in , absolutely terrified, like the cameraman had guns on them or something... > She was being coy. > > How long has it been since you've met a coy girl? Have you ever met a coy girl? > > Not all of us like to meet hard cold femme fatal dames all the time. I think someone is smitten with Miss Ryder. She has issues--that's all I'm going to say about her, even though I've liked her films that I've seen.

I only watched the intro for The Painted Veil and my only thought was that George Brent sure got around. His leading ladies must have loved him. I'm really surprised to hear that mostly he related gossipy stories instead of mentioning other things about the films. He must have written them himself, because I don't remember Robert or Ben having too many gossipy intros to films. I'm not saying it never happens, because I know it does, but their intros do seem to have great background info that doesn't involve behind the scenes affairs.

Claude Rains was a great actor who could pull off many kinds of roles, but was a great villian. And of course, you have the big 3 of acting--Cagney, Robinson & Bogart--who were very effective villians on occasion.

> {quote:title=DougieB wrote:}{quote}It never even occurred to me to try to make sense out of the Susan Hayward "Back Street". Too old? Mismatched? Bring it on! That's what makes it all such a heady experience. John Gavin was often called upon to prop up aging actresses. (Think "Mr. Steve" in "Imitation of Life".) I loved how they tried to explain away the age difference in both movies. Lora Meredith was "five years late" in getting started on her acting career. Let's see..Graduate high school at 18.. plus 5 years...WRONG! And rae smith saying she lost a few years because she had to help out in her parents' store? That's right, rae, A FEW. I was thrilled by this showing because the only copy I've ever had was a grainy full screen print from TV many years ago, with some scenes edited out to make room for commercials. To have a beautiful unedited widescreen copy after all these years is a dream come true. This is the quintessential Susan Hayward, to my mind. Look out, boys, she's done with that batch of scenery..Throw her some more to chew or she'll start on the cameras and lights. Love her. > When I see "I Want To Live!", to me it's just another Susan Hayward movie, with her doing what she always does. I guess she got respect for that one because it was a "hard-hitting social drama" or something and she wore a prison smock. At least in "Back Street" she got to emote in GOWNS and had a fancy villa in Carmel... Excuse me, I mean Italy. Now TCM should show that English remake of "Dark Victory" with Susan in the B. D. role. Then we'd really be on a roll. You know, I've been thinking about this some more since it was on Sunday night, and it wasn't so bad that I was ever tempted to change the channel--there is something about the film that made me want to keep watching. It had everything a Ross Hunter produced film from that era had, but it lacked Douglas Sirk, who made all those 1950's women's films. I think Hayward was just "that way" in her acting style--a little OTT. I think that the ending needed work. It seemed a little too syrupy and obvious.

The Barrymores were part of a Star of the Month a few years back when famous acting/directing families were featured. But John, Lionel & Ethel are always fun to watch. You could even throw in a film by John Drew, Diana & Drew as well.

TCM sometimes shows a short starring Tom Neal as Father Damian, but it's only a 10 min. movie. I think it's one of those Passing Parade shorts although I could be mistaken about that part.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}Well, what was the age difference between Margaret Sullavan and Richard Carlson? Sullavan was 32 & Carlson 28. In the 61 version, Hayward was 44 & Gavin 30.

I used to work with a woman who loved the 1961 version of this movie, and I'd seen the earlier two versions years ago so last night I decided to watch Susan, John & Vera to see what I thought of the newest version. I was continually distracted by the obvious age difference in Hayward & Gavin and the fact that Rae was very successful without the rich sugar daddy--why is she wasting his time? Virginia Grey looked positively anorexic. Vera Miles at least had some life to her character & was playing against type--she came off the best of the leads. Charles Drake? Who's he? Natalie Schaffer was pretty good as the gossipy client. The son was annoying. And Dobbs--it wasn't nearly as depressing as the earlier version--spoiler alert-- She lives & he dies in a horrific car accident along with the shrewish wife. And she hugs the kids at the end. It was pretty corny and I usually eat up this kind of film.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}He could be one of the most important------the Jets victory over the Colts in the Super Bowl gave the AFL credibility and helped force the merger-----but he's certainly not one of the best quarterbacks. I don't think you'd get any disagreement from Namath. His knees were already shot by the time he got to the AFL. And last night it looked like he might be suffering from scoliosis or osteoperosis. He had a dowager's hump.

It wasn't so much that Dave sounded like Dana Andrews but it was just the way he was quoting some of the dialogue that was so funny. Alec joked & told him that it was a good thing for Andrews that Dave wasn't around then or he'd be getting all the Dana Andrews parts. It was funnier on the show than it sounds on paper. Dave never mentioned Alec's weight loss. I was mainly watching for Namath because you hardly ever see him on talk shows, at least the ones I watch. He seemed nervous. After the interview he, Dave & Alec went out in the street to the side of the Sullivan Theater & threw the football around. Alec made a great catch. Like I mentioned, Alec is always entertaining on these types of shows. Dave asked him about running for office & he said he'd liked to be mayor of NYC if he didn't have to go through the campaign. Then, after they showed his younger girlfriend in the green room, he said he has decided that once he's through with 30 Rock that he intends to do some traveling with said hot girlfriend. Edited by: helenbaby on Aug 31, 2011 11:23 AM