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Okay, let's think about this some more. In order for a movie to cause top and bottom bars, you need for it to be wider than an HD TV (16:9 = 1.77:1). The most common aspect ratio for American movies is 1.85:1, so most American movies cause top and bottom bars on an HD TV. Not large ones, but they are there. I have a problem though with there being a version of this movie that is wide enough to cause bars on the top and bottom of a 16:9 (1.77:1) HD TV. The original film stock was only 1.75:1. So the only way you could have possibly seen top and bottom bars on an HD TV in HD mode is if you had seen a "fake widescreen" version (top and bottom cropped off) - yes that is a crime and yes it has been done to movies before.

Hmm. Are there any musical number in it?

FWIW At the end Ben M. said there was a 7 minute additional section that was shot "at expense" featuring Montgomery Clift. I don't know if this is related to your question or not. He didn't say whether or not this was included in the TCM version (which I get 179 minutes for if I trim everything else out).

All I can really comment on here is the aspect ratio. I see it was originally shot in 1.75:1, as you mentioned. This is said to have been an early 35mm format. Now opening the HD feed recording on a flat widescreen computer monitor, measuring it with a ruler I get 13.75" x 8.25", which is 1.66:1. So I would say it is most likely just 1.75:1 cropped to fit the common European widescreen standard 1.66:1 *. Too little difference for P&S I would think. * 1.6667:1 (5:3) A common European widescreen std.; Native Super 16 mm film. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_%28image%29

All connotations aside, I really do miss seeing women in sun dresses that wear straw hats. I am not talking about on the beaches, but just around town as a part of a leisure attire . Haven't seen that in maybe 30 years or so. Oh well.

There's a mini TV series (maybe around 10 episodes by now) called "Bitchin' Rides" on the Velocity network. It is a younger group of guys working at a custom auto shop that go out of their way to restore or build unique cars/vehicles with vintage appeal.

It would have been more convenient for everyone involved, I would think.

I have read that Fred Gwynne stood on a wooden box to be that much taller than Yvonne DeCarlo in The Munsters, especially in the scenes where he bent way down to kiss her. That was in addition to being tall in the first place and wearing custom elevator shoes. His awkward presence as Herman Munster was probably a combination good comic acting and actually trying not to fall over.

Hi darkblue, I happened to record Brainstorm and already have it set up. Here are some screen captures from my HD video editor program (no additional letterboxing, cropping, or resizing, just as-is from HD feed). Opening aspect ratio, this is what the movie starts off looking like. It is widescreen letterboxed. The black surrounding area is part of the HD picture (1080i). Then here is the first occurence of the secondary aspect ratio used, just minutes into the movie. All the surrounding black area is part of the picture too. Then somewhere later we see the the secondary aspect ratio again. Then after that we see the first aspect ratio It goes back and forth quite a bit, and on a DVD (standard definition), the black area may or may not be cropped around the sides of the larger images to save some space. It all depends on whether they thought do do that. I think they did something similar to this at the start of Around The World In 80 Days, or maybe it was a similar big-screen movie. They started with smaller title cards and intro. Then it expanded to the full-screen movie. It must have had quite the wow factor in the theaters back in the day. On another note, I actually already had Nothing Lasts Forever. So showed it somewhat recently. It seems to be from a 16mm transfer. Parts are in B&W and parts in color. But not stellar picture quality by any means. The HD framing on that was similar to the smaller images I posted above. Hopefully they can show it again so all can see it.

Arghh... I just looked at my notes to self on my wish list and saw that it had been cancelled at the last minute. Someone is selling a $50 DVD of it on Amazon though, so it is probably not all that common right now. The Tribune plotline: An underground artist (Zach Galligan) in future New York boards a bus without knowing it is bound for the moon. The IMDB plotline: An artist fails a test and is required to direct traffic in New York City's Holland Tunnel. He winds up falling in love with a beautiful woman, who takes him to the moon on a Lunar Cruiser. Tribune's plots are consistent, in that they are concise, to the point, and better-worded than I could usually come up with. Their verbage is what gets used for the guide information on many different DVR systems. In this case the random user-contributed IMDB plot is excellent and makes me want to see the movie. Hope it airs and and everyone who is interested gets to see it.

This one's a real crapshoot. Perfect for this thread. I don't even know if this one was shown in the drive-ins. AcTOR Pat Ryan is a close enough facsimile of Tor and then some. I remember seeing this back in the 80s, on UHF TV, quite possibly the same year it was released. Just the kind of thing that says "ouch" for that time period. Eat and Run (1987) Shortly after the opening credits he is seen along the road near a corn field. A farmer picks him up thinking he is a hitchhiker, and it is strongly implied that he eats the farmer. Then he spits out the buttons from the victim's clothes. If you have ever seen a movie where a heavy guy, supposed to be a space alien, eats Italian people and spits out the buttons, this is most likely it. My thoughts. Yes this is definitely a "z" movie. Maybe even a double-z. Like drive-in movies? Then go watch something else.

At least the duplicate entry glitch seems to have been resolved. For now. I can't say I would watch a single one of those movies though. Not even if I were confined to a nursing home.

This is kind of what I was thinking too. I think I'll pass. I do like older movie musicals though.

Thanks Arturo and ahharding. That is interesting info. I didn't realize that Epix Drive in and FXM were both SD-only. This misunderstanding stems from the way my setup uses an older-style SD CRT tv for most TV viewing - although the rest of my equipment is HD (don't ask). Anyone know if Retroplex is in HD? I don't currently know anything about it. This Summer it will be a couple years with DirecTV. It is a much more stable setup than our local cable was. After their conversion to digital, the channels just started to randomly drop out in the middle of programs. Unacceptable. We gave it about a year and a bunch of "truck rolls" (technician visits) and to no avail. That is why we went to Direct. It appears FXM is a seperate addition for DirecTV. I sometimes record things from HDNet, SonyHD, and MGMHD when they open it up for free for a holiday weekend. Too bad FXM is not included in that HD package. I think those channels (and a few more) are only like $5/month extra.

Hey Arturo, since you pay attention to FXM, do you recall ever having seen Just Imagine (1930) listed there? It is one that I would like to get from TV. As I understand, it was the earliest Sci-Fi with sound in the US. It is so old that the title cards say "The William Fox Company"

That's interesting. I have DirecTv, and am pretty sure it is not available in HD there either. I used to have Time Warner and seem to remember it being in HD there, but now am not sure. But I didn't know Dish didn't offer it in HD either. The one station I don't get on Direct that I got before was EPDVN (Epix Drive-in), exactly what it sounds like, 1970s/80s schlock.

This is a big one. A composer whose work was as big as or bigger than the movies he did. Yes, they put a bunch of money into all other aspects of the moves he worked on, but without his compositions they just wouldn't have been the same. RIP.

I can just picture Lucille Ball, who was a fan of Three's Company and even made a guest appearance as herself, saying "Don't push your luck Mister".

It's Mike Rowe. He used to host Dirty Jobs. The ladies make it look a bit like Three's Company.

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Call me a pedophile, but I liked Sue-Sue Applegate.

Could it also be something to do with the era? The studios wanted something different every 5 or 10 years. I like the popular women of the 30s, and I know from your posts that you like the inimitable Jean Arthur, as do I. Of course there were later actresses that I like too, so my theory only holds up with certain types I think.

You mean David Copperfield style? That would be Torweak.