Movie Collector OH
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IMDb has this.. on that..
Walter Matthau : He [Elvis Presley] was an instinctive actor...He was quite bright...he was very intelligent...He was not a punk. He was very elegant, sedate, and refined, and sophisticated.
Mr. Matthau, one of my favorite actors, has spoken. I have somehow acquired a bunch of Elvis movies and I kinda like the guy too.
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I've seen him in a handful of movies, including The Fifth Element and Leon The Professional (recently aired on another network). That movie also had a couple of the other actors from Fifth Element. Same director.
Definitely like him as an actor.
In Fifth Element and Leon The Professional, it sounds to my ears as if he is speaking with a combination of a light British accent and maybe a light Southern US accent (but no drawl). All I know is that was the first time I ever saw him act, and it made him all the more mysterious. I wonder if he and Hugh Laurie know each other.
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This reminds me of a private screening that I went to for Canadian Film Academy voters of the film, Your Ticket Is No Longer Valid. It starred Richard Harris, George Peppard and Jeanne Moreau.
Anyway about half way through the film people started snickering because it was quite bad and a little later the laughter was spreading and taking over most of the moments in the film.
At which point someone in the second row yelled out "Quiet! There are some people here that worked on this film!"
There was dead silence and then a beat later everyone, and I mean everyone erupted in laughter.
What a thing to admit to.
I'll have to keep my eyes out for that one. Another small-time Canadian movie I have is "Firebird 2015", which actually has an anti-totalitarian message. So it is a bit more of a warning film like Soylent Green or Logan's Run, than most of these mentioned in this thread. But it is still poorly executed.
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That's interesting idea "so good it's bad."
I guess that would apply to movies that try so hard to impress but are so obvious about it.
That was just a typo, but in the spirit of this thread I just left it in. I guess "so good it's bad" would be right at home with CGI movies.
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Canadian film shot in Vancouver. I've seen it twice. What does that say about me?
Hopefully not in the same sitting though. It's ok, I won't tell. There is something intriguing about "so good it's bad" (or is that "so bad it's good") cinema every now and then.
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One more for this list, Big Meat Eater (1982), from the mysterious genre of Musical/Comedy/Sci-Fi (as is Killer Tomatos)
After killing the crooked mayor a homicidal janitor named Abdullah goes to work for a butcher who has invented a new language for the town's planned futuristic theme park. In the butcher shop is a septic tank where scraps of meat are dumped which has produced "balonium" a radioactive fuel source sought after by space aliens. The aliens revive the mayor, who's body is hanging in the meat locker of the butcher shop, in an attempt to gain access to the balonium.I will just have to post a Youtube clip of this, as it is really amazing how bad it is. Below is a playlist of 7 clips, presumably from the same movie.
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I actually have a DVD of this movie sitting around, but haven't gotten around to seeing it yet. The reviews on IMDB left me thinking it is "so-so", but I do form my own opinions and think for myself, so I might pull it out and watch it yet.
I saw Atlas Shrugged Part One movie in the theater when it came out. It was low-budget (soap opera stars I think) but I still found it interesting. I found the main female character to be alluring, in an old Hollywood sort of way. It seemed short though and seemed to end right about at the point where things were to get interesting. So as the first of presumably three movies, it was basically used to establish the storyline. It seemed like the first part of a mini-series, as it is a big book. They took too long, IMO, to release sequels. In addition most of the parts were recast with different actors. I haven't seen any sequels yet.
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Why the average
menactresses of old Hollywood are more appealing to me than today'smenactresses...For me as a guy, it is presumably similar to a couple of the replies so far. Physical attributes are part of it, but factors such as grooming, decorum, presentation, attitude, and personality (which often get overlooked today) go a long way with me. Just like in real life! Hey you, get off yer Iphone long enuff to talk to me!
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Not sure. I couldn't even log onto it a few months ago. (Windows/Firefox 29). I have seen some of the movies or actors that I have brought up on here get airtime though. It could be somebody sees it, it could just be luck of the draw, or maybe a little bit of both.
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I could be wrong but I have a feeling that this coat check girl may be just that - a coat check girl, and not intended as a caricature of a star.
I always found it interesting that the Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies were willing to do caricatures of non-Warners stars like Garbo and Gable, and didn't stick entirely to their own money makers. (MGM cartoons, for example, only did caricatures of their own stars, I believe).
Part of the reason for this, though, I suspect, is that Jack Warner didn't take the animated part of his studio too seriously and didn't pay much attention to what his animators were doing. Thus, the name for their decrepit facilities where they created their cartoons, Termite Terrace.
This topic and cartoon representations sort of remind me of Marge Champion, the beautiful dancer we have all seen in Show Boat.
http://classiccinemaimages.com/marge-champion/marge-champion/
She was in other cartoons already, so who knows.
http://imgarcade.com/1/marge-champion-snow-white/
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Barbara Stanwyck. I like most of the movies I have seen her in, and even have a bunch of them. I just never got used to the way she moves her lips like a ventrilloquist much of the time when she talks. Maybe a method acting thing for her, who knows.
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I was thinking about this last night, and don't really have any more insight than the average person that goes on IMDB and digs around. Having said that, I came across a few other movies, including Funny Face. Bear in mind that I haven't looked at who the actors are, let alone seen more than half of these...You might also want to consider from that time period:
To Catch a Thief (1955) (>>Grace Kelly<< and Cary Grant)
The Ambassador's Daughter (1956)
The Silken Affair (1956)
There's Always Tomorrow (1956)
Designing Woman (1957)
A New Kind of Love (1963)
The Courtship of Eddie's Father (1963)
Honeymoon Hotel (1964)
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There is an entire website that lists closed theaters and drive-ins:
One of those grand old theaters was in Toledo, OH. I was there during the years when it was a night club.
Here it is in the 70s or 80s after it closed as a theater.
Then here is a thumbnail you can click on of what they did with it sometime in the late 80s/early 90s. For a little while it was sort of an upscale night club.
The lobby, when you first walk in, was converted to a bar that faced the entryway. Then beyond, on either side of the bar, that there were two sets of stairs that went down to a basement "grunge rock" area. There were also two passage ways that went straight ahead and came out where you see the two railings to the sides in the middle of the audience area. They put a DJ booth in just to the right of the left-side entrance. There was a bar at the top, and a bar at the bottom. The dance floor was in the foreground of this picture. Then the stage (presumably the camera vantage point) also served as a raised dance floor.
It didn't stay vibrant like this for very long, this was a short-term fix. They eventually demolished this historic theater building for a large downtown development project.
I'm sure there are some other stories out there of what became of old theaters.
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Lionel!
BTW, nice Disney pictures.
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LOL! That's #220 in the IMDb list of 601 titles. Just a little digging...
Didn't even need to go that route. I recognized that as one of the Dick Powell movies that I have. The OP's clues were an excellent retelling of the last scene of the movie. All I needed to do was narrow it down to the title. There are two different movies of his with a similar type of plot. I confirmed it by watching the last 5 minutes...lol
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One terrible film I love is UHF. Granted, the film stars Weird Al, so I'm not sure if it's intentionally supposed to be bad, but the production values are pretty low, which makes it even funnier.
Reefer Madness is hilarious, I love that movie.
I'll also have to admit that I love Xanadu.
Roller Boogie is pretty bad, but who doesn't love movies featuring roller disco? That's part of the reason I love Xanadu so much. I think Xanadu is better than Roller Boogie, if only because there are higher caliber stars (Gene Kelly and Olivia Newton-John) and better music. If only Kelly and Newton-John had teamed up in some type of dance contest.
I think it all depends on the viewer as to whether they can set aside the fact that they're not watching a masterpiece and instead look at the absurdity as hilarious and entertaining as opposed to finding it a waste of time. Sometimes films, despite all their flaws, have that certain something that keeps you entertained, or maybe there are funny gags, or dialogue so ridiculous that it's funny, or the film has some type of charm or something. I don't know if I can really explain it. I think films either "click" for you or don't.
I'm not a big fan of science fiction, but I love the terrible sci-fi movies of the 50s and 60s and the cheesy horror movies of the 70s and 80s. They're just so unintentionally hilarious that they're highly entertaining.
My husband and I just watched Barbarella recently. That movie made no sense and was ridiculous but was oddly entertaining. I have no idea why. I really liked the music. Lol.
Logan's Run is another of those cheesy 70s movies that is so ridiculous that it's funny. Except I think Logan's Run went on just a bit too long. It's sad to think that I'm now the age where I would have had to sacrifice myself to "Carousel" if I didn't become a "runner."
I also love Mommie Dearest. I know it's over the top, completely ridiculous and I'm sure parts of it are untrue. However, it is probably one of the campiest movies ever and I love it. Is it bad that I felt bad for Joan Crawford during most of the film? Christina was lame!
NO WIRE HANGERS EVER!
"So Bad They're Good" movies belong in their own genre, a genre I love very much.
So Bad It's Good is actually a genre I acknowledge having in my internal collection of movies.
I have seen about half of the ones you mention. Others that I have from the 70s are Frogs, Killdozer, At the Earth's Core, Day of the Animals, Empire of the Ants, and Laserblast. Laserblast is actually not a bad movie at all, it was just the last of the "old school" sci-fi movies right before Star Wars debuted. In fact some theaters were showing the two at the same time.
Not exactly related, but since you mention Roller Boogie, I finally saw that, and then saw Abba The Movie. I hadn't seen that before, even though I actually have the DVD. The rogue reporter gets his interview with the band. The best Abba footage I have seen though is from something else they did, where the lighting was much brighter and the concert sound clearer.
I have been focusing on 1930s era musicals with heavy vaudeville influences, just because I have never seen anything like it before, but this sort of stuff has a place on my shelf too.
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If you're into lower budget Sci-Fi from the 60s and so forth, then you should see The Lost Skeleton Of Cadavra (2001). It is a reenactment of bad sci-fi, complete with stilted alien language, accomodating earthly hosts that are staying in a backwoods cottage (actually two distinctly different cottages, meant to be the same one, in the spirit of discontinuity), and even a space ship whose door gets stuck (in the DVD extras, this was said to be an unplanned mistake). Looks like they had a fun time.
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Happiness Ahead (1934). A bored heiress (Josephine Hutchinson) leaves high society and falls in love with a window washer (Dick Powell).
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Kenny
LOL Exactly! Of topic, yet straight to the point as they so often are.
I don't have any way to really quantify most deaths of any individual actor/actress for myself either, but it has dawned on me in the past that Walter Pidgeon "died" quite often.
Mrs. Parkington (1944)
(story told in hindsight, after Pidgeon has been dead, he is only alive in flashback scenes)
Blossoms in the Dust (1941)
(Pidgeon "dies" in his bed about halfway through movie, just as wife's child adoption agency is gaining momentum)
Madame Curie (1943)
(as Pierre Curry, gets killed in a street accident)
Million Dollar Mermaid (1952)
(as Annete Kellerman's (Esther William's) dad, collapses on floor then dies, right after a picturesque indoor swimming scene)
Forbidden Planet (1856)
(as Morbius, dies in last act of movie)
Maybe Walter Pidgeon "died" more times than that. I count 60 of his movies that I have, but haven't seen about 3/4 of them yet.
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What we need to do is look through these lists of Paramount and Universal films from the 1930s-50s, under the heading of Production Company and Distributor, and find titles that are NOT available for theater, home, or TV showing, and then contact both companies and ask for them to make them available on DVD or Blue-Ray.
Apparently the companies think these "unknown" films would not sell many DVD copies.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034862/companycredits?ref_=tt_dt_co
Click on each company name to see a long list of films, some are new but many are old.
Note that some of the companies also have large files of old TV shows too.
I am working on an extensive project in my spare time and therefore might be able to provide some input rather easily here. Do you see a place somewhere that indicates "NOT available for theater, home, or TV showing"? In particular anywhere on IMDB or any other website?
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It appears the links are to the IMDB page for the films in question. If it is available for watching or purchase, IMDB provides a link. F'rinstance:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035432/
Look under the illustration for the link to Amazon.com. I imagine other outlets, like Movies Unlimited, would also have them.
Yup, that was my main outlet, and still is, for when I am not feeling like a tapir.
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They are NOT available on DVD and apparently not for lease either. For some reason, Universal/Paramount is coming very late to the party.
At first it was unclear to me as to why Fred posted all these links, then I realized they are all from 1942. It appears that some from Fred's IMDB list are in fact on DVD, or were at some point, as the picture artwork indicates. (Some might have only been on VHS.) Not all are though, and the links certainly didn't take me to any online DVD store. Having said that, I have been impressed with TCM's output of hard to find older films. Perhaps some of them are tied up in legal disputes, perhaps some are deemed "uninteresting" (all the reason more to unearth it, blow the dust off, and show it), and perhaps some of them don't exist anymore.
My own wish list includes the early output of Fox Film Corp, before they merged and became Twentieth Century Fox (now "20th" C.F.).
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Dan has a much larger role Scarlet Street (also directed by Lang with Joan) a movie I find more interesting but both are good.
Dan's most famous western role is in Westchester 73. Dan doesn't get a lot of screen time in this Jimmy Stewart movie but he makes the most of it.
Yeah, I have Scarlet Street too. I have read that Woman In The Window is the kinder gentler of the two movies, so that is why I watched it first. I might pop in Scarlet Street tonight though since I haven't seen it yet. I saw Winchester 73 back when it aired, I thought it was good.
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Things have been busy for me lately. I don't remember which Westerns I might have seen that had Duryea, but I am used to seeing him in roles like his smiling bad guy role in The Woman In The Window (Fritz Lang, Edward G. Robinson, Joan Bennett). Interesting enough to watch.
Colorizing Affirmed
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I see at least a few issues here, maybe more. The first being the time it takes to colorize a film or TV show. The two I Love Lucy episodes were just that, I Love Lucy episodes. Nothing more, nothing less. Nevermind the high-speed server farms available. There is the time factor for calibration and review.
Then there are the differences in lighting between a color film and a B&W film. Differences for which the director would have taken into account during filming. A colorization would require creative input aside from the director's own intentions and decisions. Not even Natalie Kalmus could help here, let alone technical wizards from our generation.
Furthermore, upon brief consideration, I don't think that the "color can always be flipped to B&W on the TV" argument would hold up. For the purist, there are distortions which might be introduced to the B&W signal of a component video if only the B&W components of a formerly B&W-only film (but now 3-part Component video) were to be viewed. (ie. both chroma red and choma blue signals, Y' ("Cb" "Cr"), filtered out or disabled. My initial thoughts are that the Luminance ("Y") component of the three-part video on its own would not add up to the sum of visual information contained on the original scan from the originally B&W film. (See picture below for example of a color image broken down into YCbCr components)
So finally that leads us to having two different forks in each project: a B&W and a color. I have a few first-generation DVDs where this was done. Two different copies of the same movie on the same disc, or on two discs. One B&W, one in color. That didn't seem to catch on though.
Last but not least are the studio rights, business, and financial points of view. I am thinking that it would be a headache for whomever is tasked with managing this mess. It is a big enough task for me to record or purchase, and then account for just the movies I have. It makes my head hurt thinking about the mess that colorizing everything could cause. Unless you are just talking about a few choice movies, but beware, this is how it all begins.