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Here is what I saw. I just remember him singing at the end of every show, and it wasn't very good singing! http://www.jackiegleason.com/joe.html Also here is part of a typical monologue from one of his shows. From the vertically sectioned drapes, to the crazy outfits the bandleader wore, and even some of the spoken catch-phrases, he was clearly an influence on Johnny Carson. http://www.jackiegleason.com/video.html

I didn't know who these people were either. TLC isn't in my custom channels list. I do recall a family member or two joking about Honey Boo Boo though. It doesn't look like they did anything to help the cause of rural America.

It may have been reruns that they were showing, we saw them sometime in the mid 80s.

Absolutely... The really big stuff for him was yet to come, right there you are seeing him getting his foot in the door.

Gleason makes an early appearance in "Larceny, Inc." with a small role as a "soda jerk" in a drug store. Seeing him dressed up like this reminds me of how he dressed like this and sang the closing song of The Jackie Gleason Show in the 1980s.

I'm on it.

Nice looking schedule for June. I see they will be showing the Bulldog Drummond series, this should be good. I see The Glass Key (1942). There was an earlier version from 1935 that I haven't been able to get ahold of, starring George Raft and Edward Arnold. Maybe that one still exists somewhere. I see some Frank Morgan movies, one that even has Guy Kibbee and Virginia Weidler, [Henry Goes Arizona (1939)]. The Horn Blows at Midnight (1945) with Jack Benny shows some interesting comedy fantasy sequences. Pandora And The Flying Dutchman (1951) is considered by some to be one of the most beautiful Technicolor films to look at (aesthetically at least). I see Torrid Zone and White Cargo back-to-back. White Cargo used to be one of the films I had a hard time finding, then I discovered that TCM plays it. These fit my internal "Jungle" category, of which I am a fan. (Jungle movies are much more than just Tarzan and Jane) There are at least a couple that I have not seen before on the schedule, including one in a Don Ameche block called The Story Of Alexander Graham Bell (1939). I have had that on my wish list for some time now. The other being Satellite in the Sky (1956). I have just never heard of this one before. It is accompanied with some other vintage sci-fi this month as well. Then I see a handful of Dick Powell-directed movies. Then there is The Mating Game, with a couple of my favorite actors, Debbie Reynolds and Paul Douglas. I like the movie, but the transfer shown in the past was not that great. It looks as if it was an early attempt at shoehorning a widescreen film onto a standard definition 4:3 video system, and then letterboxing that to fit a widescreen again. A retransfer might be warranted in this case. Also there is Logan's Run... Plenty to see, and like at least one other poster mentioned, some good entry level stuff. P.S. I think I should also check out the Gildersleeve movies.

Yes!

I see that TCM hasn't aired any of them since 2003. The production company was Pyramid Productions, it was distributed by RKO. So it may not have been part of one of the packages Turner purchased back in the 80s or more recently.

This sounds like an interesting series for me to pursue just because Guy Kibbee is in them, even if they weren't highly lauded by critics. An initial search just now turned up almost no leads, but that is where I was 4 or 5 years ago with several other items, and then TCM happened to air them.

Wow, I'm really digging those pictures of I Love Lucy. I had thought that they used two different sets of cameras, but I guess not, or maybe they just did that very early on. Here is a production shot I found on the net of Metropolis (1927).

Okay, I should have thought of this before, but in the beginning of Edison The Man they actually do use at least one "match cut" type of transition. Tracy (as a much older Edison) is sitting at the table up front at an awards ceremony as someone else is speaking. Tracy is just sitting patiently, listening and looking on. He reaches into his pocket, pulls out a cigar, and someone else at the table reaches out and lights his cigar for him. The scene of the lighter and his cigar being lit fade into a scene of a lamplighter lighting a gas street lamp, and we are instantly transformed back in time with a much younger Edison.

I think that in most cases, good editing is supposed to be transparent. If it is not outwardly noticeable, then the editor did a good job. But in some cases, the editor can step into the foreground and almost become a narrator. The following cases are just off the top of my head: One of the more straighforward examples of real-time editing is in You Can't Take It With You. Donald Meek has just quit his job at the bank, and Lionel Barrymore offers him some popcorn in the elevator. The elevator door closes, and then we see a dumbwaiter door open up into the family house. That gives us a chance to meet the rest of the family before Barrymore and Meek get back, and then they are all introduced to him. Another one I can think of is at the end of the movie Between Two Worlds. Eleanor Parker is on the ghost ship and finds that Paul Henreid has gone back to the other side. So she starts crying, and then unexplicably starts turning around in circles by herself. Then the scene fades to a spinning record that is still playing, but got stuck. All of the sudden we are back in WWII in their apartment. Edison The Man does it two ways, as it also makes up for lost time. The first case is the fact that the entire movie is bookended by two scenes of him speaking at an awards dinner. Most of the movie is him reminiscing on his past, just before he is called on to speak. The second (a transition within a transition?) is just after his successful lighting of NYC. It shows him walking forwards, presumably Tracy was on a moving sidewalk or treadmill, and getting gray hair as other inventions were listed and images of them flashed by. After that we are returned to the awards dinner where the movie started, and he is much older again. In this case it wasn't to advance the plot, but just to account for time and then end the movie. A comic use of editing that I can think of off the top of my head is in Murder By Death, where one of the lead actors gets up and leaves the large dining room where the rest of the cast is seated. Then he returns and it is completely empty. Then he leaves to look for them and returns again, and it is full again - as if nobody had moved an inch. So he realizes that if he leaves, he needs to return twice in order to rejoin the crowd. P.S. I enjoy Fritz Lang's movies for the aesthetic qualities, where he used framing and the geometry of people, shapes, and light in ways that nobody else really did. A perfect example is Joan Bennett's mirrored apartment in The Woman In The Window. Or the start of that movie, which showed him as a professor teaching a lecture in a classroom. There is light coming in through the side window and the venetian blinds cast a shadow over him that looks like he is in a jail cell. Little things like that. But I am getting off topic again.

Curiosity. I was wondering about this for myself, and happened to have all the resources available (am working on something related but a bit different), so I took it upon myself to find out. At the end of the day, I prefer to let the chips fall where they may, and this is how I approached this P.S. I should also mention that I left out the Carson On TCM shorts from that..

In my spare time I accumulated and made a table from the monthly schedules between Jan 2003 (excluding Mar 2003) and up through May 2015 (about 62,000 entries), so naturally there was an opportunity for some more analysis. These are my results for an Air Year versus Production Year analysis. Air year is on the left, and production year is in parenthesis. Each unit on the right represents a single time slot on the monthly schedule. The 1920 cutoff and the five-year distribution points for the production years are purely arbitrary, just to make it more concise. This is based on the monthly schedule, so some shorts will be represented and others won't. The movies are well represented here though, as well as other programming, except for episodes of MGM Parade and Now Playing. P.S. I should also mention that I left out the Carson On TCM shorts from the results. Enjoy. (I will see if it all makes it into one post) 2003 (1920 - 1924) = 37 2003 (1925 - 1929) = 61 2003 (1930 - 1934) = 393 2003 (1935 - 1939) = 649 2003 (1940 - 1944) = 669 2003 (1945 - 1949) = 625 2003 (1950 - 1954) = 441 2003 (1955 - 1959) = 448 2003 (1960 - 1964) = 292 2003 (1965 - 1969) = 255 2003 (1970 - 1974) = 73 2003 (1975 - 1979) = 86 2003 (1980 - 1984) = 51 2003 (1985 - 1989) = 23 2003 (1990 - 1994) = 25 2003 (1995 - 1999) = 52 2003 (2000 - 2004) = 65 2004 (1920 - 1924) = 47 2004 (1925 - 1929) = 100 2004 (1930 - 1934) = 383 2004 (1935 - 1939) = 596 2004 (1940 - 1944) = 753 2004 (1945 - 1949) = 620 2004 (1950 - 1954) = 555 2004 (1955 - 1959) = 495 2004 (1960 - 1964) = 345 2004 (1965 - 1969) = 290 2004 (1970 - 1974) = 113 2004 (1975 - 1979) = 110 2004 (1980 - 1984) = 41 2004 (1985 - 1989) = 34 2004 (1990 - 1994) = 33 2004 (1995 - 1999) = 38 2004 (2000 - 2004) = 105 2005 (1920 - 1924) = 50 2005 (1925 - 1929) = 93 2005 (1930 - 1934) = 413 2005 (1935 - 1939) = 672 2005 (1940 - 1944) = 884 2005 (1945 - 1949) = 679 2005 (1950 - 1954) = 502 2005 (1955 - 1959) = 490 2005 (1960 - 1964) = 353 2005 (1965 - 1969) = 259 2005 (1970 - 1974) = 80 2005 (1975 - 1979) = 76 2005 (1980 - 1984) = 41 2005 (1985 - 1989) = 32 2005 (1990 - 1994) = 34 2005 (1995 - 1999) = 34 2005 (2000 - 2004) = 76 2005 (2005 - 2009) = 78 2006 (1920 - 1924) = 40 2006 (1925 - 1929) = 82 2006 (1930 - 1934) = 426 2006 (1935 - 1939) = 721 2006 (1940 - 1944) = 777 2006 (1945 - 1949) = 645 2006 (1950 - 1954) = 528 2006 (1955 - 1959) = 481 2006 (1960 - 1964) = 360 2006 (1965 - 1969) = 254 2006 (1970 - 1974) = 145 2006 (1975 - 1979) = 76 2006 (1980 - 1984) = 49 2006 (1985 - 1989) = 36 2006 (1990 - 1994) = 40 2006 (1995 - 1999) = 54 2006 (2000 - 2004) = 51 2006 (2005 - 2009) = 121 2007 (1920 - 1924) = 40 2007 (1925 - 1929) = 78 2007 (1930 - 1934) = 338 2007 (1935 - 1939) = 651 2007 (1940 - 1944) = 772 2007 (1945 - 1949) = 612 2007 (1950 - 1954) = 570 2007 (1955 - 1959) = 545 2007 (1960 - 1964) = 470 2007 (1965 - 1969) = 364 2007 (1970 - 1974) = 125 2007 (1975 - 1979) = 97 2007 (1980 - 1984) = 45 2007 (1985 - 1989) = 40 2007 (1990 - 1994) = 28 2007 (1995 - 1999) = 29 2007 (2000 - 2004) = 27 2007 (2005 - 2009) = 126 2008 (1920 - 1924) = 43 2008 (1925 - 1929) = 84 2008 (1930 - 1934) = 401 2008 (1935 - 1939) = 645 2008 (1940 - 1944) = 689 2008 (1945 - 1949) = 654 2008 (1950 - 1954) = 565 2008 (1955 - 1959) = 613 2008 (1960 - 1964) = 499 2008 (1965 - 1969) = 421 2008 (1970 - 1974) = 176 2008 (1975 - 1979) = 140 2008 (1980 - 1984) = 76 2008 (1985 - 1989) = 32 2008 (1990 - 1994) = 30 2008 (1995 - 1999) = 57 2008 (2000 - 2004) = 59 2008 (2005 - 2009) = 65 2009 (1920 - 1924) = 46 2009 (1925 - 1929) = 87 2009 (1930 - 1934) = 360 2009 (1935 - 1939) = 687 2009 (1940 - 1944) = 693 2009 (1945 - 1949) = 605 2009 (1950 - 1954) = 636 2009 (1955 - 1959) = 535 2009 (1960 - 1964) = 486 2009 (1965 - 1969) = 342 2009 (1970 - 1974) = 172 2009 (1975 - 1979) = 125 2009 (1980 - 1984) = 73 2009 (1985 - 1989) = 46 2009 (1990 - 1994) = 31 2009 (1995 - 1999) = 25 2009 (2000 - 2004) = 47 2009 (2005 - 2009) = 72 2010 (1920 - 1924) = 33 2010 (1925 - 1929) = 76 2010 (1930 - 1934) = 395 2010 (1935 - 1939) = 637 2010 (1940 - 1944) = 776 2010 (1945 - 1949) = 712 2010 (1950 - 1954) = 607 2010 (1955 - 1959) = 564 2010 (1960 - 1964) = 494 2010 (1965 - 1969) = 407 2010 (1970 - 1974) = 161 2010 (1975 - 1979) = 148 2010 (1980 - 1984) = 83 2010 (1985 - 1989) = 25 2010 (1990 - 1994) = 18 2010 (1995 - 1999) = 14 2010 (2000 - 2004) = 22 2010 (2005 - 2009) = 30 2010 (2010 - 2014) = 45 2011 (1920 - 1924) = 73 2011 (1925 - 1929) = 123 2011 (1930 - 1934) = 581 2011 (1935 - 1939) = 729 2011 (1940 - 1944) = 650 2011 (1945 - 1949) = 635 2011 (1950 - 1954) = 668 2011 (1955 - 1959) = 663 2011 (1960 - 1964) = 421 2011 (1965 - 1969) = 326 2011 (1970 - 1974) = 125 2011 (1975 - 1979) = 66 2011 (1980 - 1984) = 72 2011 (1985 - 1989) = 32 2011 (1990 - 1994) = 23 2011 (1995 - 1999) = 9 2011 (2000 - 2004) = 25 2011 (2005 - 2009) = 35 2011 (2010 - 2014) = 38 2012 (1920 - 1924) = 46 2012 (1925 - 1929) = 100 2012 (1930 - 1934) = 433 2012 (1935 - 1939) = 643 2012 (1940 - 1944) = 656 2012 (1945 - 1949) = 595 2012 (1950 - 1954) = 631 2012 (1955 - 1959) = 627 2012 (1960 - 1964) = 515 2012 (1965 - 1969) = 401 2012 (1970 - 1974) = 128 2012 (1975 - 1979) = 92 2012 (1980 - 1984) = 65 2012 (1985 - 1989) = 39 2012 (1990 - 1994) = 17 2012 (1995 - 1999) = 9 2012 (2000 - 2004) = 14 2012 (2005 - 2009) = 26 2012 (2010 - 2014) = 23 2013 (1920 - 1924) = 48 2013 (1925 - 1929) = 93 2013 (1930 - 1934) = 407 2013 (1935 - 1939) = 633 2013 (1940 - 1944) = 722 2013 (1945 - 1949) = 645 2013 (1950 - 1954) = 667 2013 (1955 - 1959) = 659 2013 (1960 - 1964) = 478 2013 (1965 - 1969) = 415 2013 (1970 - 1974) = 167 2013 (1975 - 1979) = 87 2013 (1980 - 1984) = 72 2013 (1985 - 1989) = 31 2013 (1990 - 1994) = 18 2013 (1995 - 1999) = 6 2013 (2000 - 2004) = 17 2013 (2005 - 2009) = 31 2013 (2010 - 2014) = 54 2014 (1920 - 1924) = 45 2014 (1925 - 1929) = 146 2014 (1930 - 1934) = 586 2014 (1935 - 1939) = 713 2014 (1940 - 1944) = 761 2014 (1945 - 1949) = 645 2014 (1950 - 1954) = 592 2014 (1955 - 1959) = 589 2014 (1960 - 1964) = 461 2014 (1965 - 1969) = 401 2014 (1970 - 1974) = 193 2014 (1975 - 1979) = 91 2014 (1980 - 1984) = 73 2014 (1985 - 1989) = 28 2014 (1990 - 1994) = 42 2014 (1995 - 1999) = 4 2014 (2000 - 2004) = 9 2014 (2005 - 2009) = 40 2014 (2010 - 2014) = 40 2015 (1920 - 1924) = 13 2015 (1925 - 1929) = 23 2015 (1930 - 1934) = 159 2015 (1935 - 1939) = 269 2015 (1940 - 1944) = 273 2015 (1945 - 1949) = 223 2015 (1950 - 1954) = 205 2015 (1955 - 1959) = 226 2015 (1960 - 1964) = 223 2015 (1965 - 1969) = 193 2015 (1970 - 1974) = 96 2015 (1975 - 1979) = 60 2015 (1980 - 1984) = 30 2015 (1985 - 1989) = 18 2015 (1990 - 1994) = 9 2015 (1995 - 1999) = 4 2015 (2000 - 2004) = 5 2015 (2005 - 2009) = 14 2015 (2010 - 2014) = 10 2015 (2015 - 2019) = 4 (end of post)

In an unrelated event, the entire movie Aerosmith, starring Ronald Colman, came in without a hitch.

Thanks. I've been away from this lately, but I think this would be an interesting thing to incorporate. It doesn't matter to me what stage of recovery they are in at this point. I basically just wanted to fill in some blanks. Sound films included.

Well I finally got around to transferring that batch of files from my DVR PC to an editor PC. In any case the exact same thing happened to me in Ohio too. (FEMA region V)

Thanks. So it was just in that one movie so far? I will scan through the stuff I recorded today when I get home tonight and post back. A gap of a few minutes would be quick and easy for me to find. It just sounds like a short-term interruption (really the only kind I have ever had with DirecTV). I am in NEOH, so conditions may vary.

That's an interesting one. I recorded much of what TCM had on today and yesterday, so I am sure if it affected me I will come across it as I scan through it in my editor for consistency before I archive it. Maybe I have already seen this. How long does it last? Is it like a dropout from heavy rain? Oh well thanks for the heads up!

A bit O/T but I'd like to know if there are any definitive resources which keep a running tab on lost movies. (older films that were not preserved and are believed to be lost)

My favorite special effects (by today's standards) from that time period were good background music and silence, less could be more. It's always good to have a mission statement. Love it or hate it, filmmakers of the studio system era lived and died by their mission statements. It seems mission statements are harder for filmmakers to come by nowadays, almost as if all the good ones were taken or not interesting anymore.

I reread my last post and realized how much I left out. It is just a big topic. Another thing the OP might be talking about is that the first digital cinemas were 2K cinemas. That is a similar resolution as our full-size HD-TVs (1920 x 1080, where 1920 = "2K"). So if you stretch that out across the area of a theater screen and sit near the front, you might be able to see pixels too. The 2K format theaters are still used today, often in smaller rooms, but newer ones are mostly 4K. A handful of rows back and most cannot even tell the difference between the two. As far as motion goes, film works by persistence of vision. There is a shutter in both the camera and projector that stays open long enough for your to brain detect it, but not long enough for the film to advance to the next frame. So a good percentage of the film experience is spent in darkness. With video, at least the percentage of time spent in darkness is reduced, if not gone altogether, as there isn't the same guaranteed functional requirement for it. So that might have a bit to do with the OP's concerns. I don't know whether or not digital Cinema projectors attempt to emulate this, but if they did, it might cut down on perceived brightness.

Hi Hamradio, since you have a DTA, and it works, do you know if they shut down the analog service in your area yet? Can you still use a "cable-ready" TV set to receive just the basic channels, or do you need that DTA for everything? In NE Ohio, ours was shut down just last Summer (only locals remain). I suspected in an earlier thread that the OP's analog was recently shut down, and the box he has probably is so old that it can no longer correctly output to an analog device. Cable system extended outside of intended DTA use perhaps?

P.S. I forget which DTA box you said you have, but I looked on my computer and found the instruction manual for the DTA which I had. Here is somebody else's link to the instructions for that box. Take a look at the last page. Caveat: I am not sure if these settings apply to the SD (RF) output or just the HDMI (HD) output. But this is an example of a DTA where the end user can adjust the output settings. Cisco DTA 170HD http://www.oceanic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DTA170_SoftwareGuide.pdf