Movie Collector OH
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Honey "Obnoxious" Boo Boo
(if you don't have TLC, consider yourself blessed)
I didn't know who these people were either. TLC isn't in my custom channels list. I do recall a family member or two joking about Honey Boo Boo though. It doesn't look like they did anything to help the cause of rural America.
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I don't recall any Jackie Gleason show in the 1980's. His TV show was cacelled in 1969.
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It may have been reruns that they were showing, we saw them sometime in the mid 80s.
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Gleason made no impression at all in this role, giving little promise of thre things to come.
Absolutely... The really big stuff for him was yet to come, right there you are seeing him getting his foot in the door.
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Gleason makes an early appearance in "Larceny, Inc." with a small role as a "soda jerk" in a drug store. Seeing him dressed up like this reminds me of how he dressed like this and sang the closing song of The Jackie Gleason Show in the 1980s.
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Brooklyn showgirl contributes to the war effort by landing hundreds of marines in the amphibious assault of Ungatek Atoll. Stars Ann Southern, John Payne, Eve Arden, James Gleason. Directed by William A. Seiter.
I'm on it.
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Nice looking schedule for June.
I see they will be showing the Bulldog Drummond series, this should be good.
I see The Glass Key (1942). There was an earlier version from 1935 that I haven't been able to get ahold of, starring George Raft and Edward Arnold. Maybe that one still exists somewhere.
I see some Frank Morgan movies, one that even has Guy Kibbee and Virginia Weidler, [Henry Goes Arizona (1939)].
The Horn Blows at Midnight (1945) with Jack Benny shows some interesting comedy fantasy sequences.
Pandora And The Flying Dutchman (1951) is considered by some to be one of the most beautiful Technicolor films to look at (aesthetically at least).
I see Torrid Zone and White Cargo back-to-back. White Cargo used to be one of the films I had a hard time finding, then I discovered that TCM plays it. These fit my internal "Jungle" category, of which I am a fan. (Jungle movies are much more than just Tarzan and Jane)
There are at least a couple that I have not seen before on the schedule, including one in a Don Ameche block called The Story Of Alexander Graham Bell (1939). I have had that on my wish list for some time now. The other being Satellite in the Sky (1956). I have just never heard of this one before. It is accompanied with some other vintage sci-fi this month as well.
Then I see a handful of Dick Powell-directed movies.
Then there is The Mating Game, with a couple of my favorite actors, Debbie Reynolds and Paul Douglas. I like the movie, but the transfer shown in the past was not that great. It looks as if it was an early attempt at shoehorning a widescreen film onto a standard definition 4:3 video system, and then letterboxing that to fit a widescreen again. A retransfer might be warranted in this case.
Also there is Logan's Run...
Plenty to see, and like at least one other poster mentioned, some good entry level stuff.
P.S. I think I should also check out the Gildersleeve movies.
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I am surprised..... this first Maisie movie is very good!
Yes!
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Maybe you'll find pirated copies recorded from the old AMC, if SCATTERGOOD BAINES ever aired on AMC (not sure). Seriously doubt whoever owns the copyright is working on restoring and releasing them, but you never know.
There is another series from around the same period (late 30s/early 40s) that starred James Gleason, his wife Lucile and their son Russell-- called THE HIGGINS FAMILY. I've been curious about those, too. They were made at Republic and possibly a lot tougher to track down.
I see that TCM hasn't aired any of them since 2003. The production company was Pyramid Productions, it was distributed by RKO. So it may not have been part of one of the packages Turner purchased back in the 80s or more recently.
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Good point(s), Arturo. I think this is what happened with the Scattergood Baines series at RKO with Guy Kibbee in the main role. The final entry was renamed CINDERELLA SWINGS IT, which doesn't sound anything like the earlier titles in the series.
This sounds like an interesting series for me to pursue just because Guy Kibbee is in them, even if they weren't highly lauded by critics. An initial search just now turned up almost no leads, but that is where I was 4 or 5 years ago with several other items, and then TCM happened to air them.
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Wow, I'm really digging those pictures of I Love Lucy. I had thought that they used two different sets of cameras, but I guess not, or maybe they just did that very early on.
Here is a production shot I found on the net of Metropolis (1927).
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Good job. The examples you mention from YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU and BETWEEN TWO WORLDS are called match cuts. It is where the transition is accomplished, from one setting to another (either location or time), by matching a similar object in both settings to cover the jump in the narrative.
I think the example of the Edison - Spencer Tracy movie is more a montage, though cleverly done. The goal as you pointed out is not to add deeper meaning, but to move the story forward and compress a series of events that indicate a lengthy passage of time.
Okay, I should have thought of this before, but in the beginning of Edison The Man they actually do use at least one "match cut" type of transition. Tracy (as a much older Edison) is sitting at the table up front at an awards ceremony as someone else is speaking. Tracy is just sitting patiently, listening and looking on. He reaches into his pocket, pulls out a cigar, and someone else at the table reaches out and lights his cigar for him. The scene of the lighter and his cigar being lit fade into a scene of a lamplighter lighting a gas street lamp, and we are instantly transformed back in time with a much younger Edison.
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I think that in most cases, good editing is supposed to be transparent. If it is not outwardly noticeable, then the editor did a good job. But in some cases, the editor can step into the foreground and almost become a narrator. The following cases are just off the top of my head:
One of the more straighforward examples of real-time editing is in You Can't Take It With You. Donald Meek has just quit his job at the bank, and Lionel Barrymore offers him some popcorn in the elevator. The elevator door closes, and then we see a dumbwaiter door open up into the family house. That gives us a chance to meet the rest of the family before Barrymore and Meek get back, and then they are all introduced to him.
Another one I can think of is at the end of the movie Between Two Worlds. Eleanor Parker is on the ghost ship and finds that Paul Henreid has gone back to the other side. So she starts crying, and then unexplicably starts turning around in circles by herself. Then the scene fades to a spinning record that is still playing, but got stuck. All of the sudden we are back in WWII in their apartment.
Edison The Man does it two ways, as it also makes up for lost time. The first case is the fact that the entire movie is bookended by two scenes of him speaking at an awards dinner. Most of the movie is him reminiscing on his past, just before he is called on to speak. The second (a transition within a transition?) is just after his successful lighting of NYC. It shows him walking forwards, presumably Tracy was on a moving sidewalk or treadmill, and getting gray hair as other inventions were listed and images of them flashed by. After that we are returned to the awards dinner where the movie started, and he is much older again. In this case it wasn't to advance the plot, but just to account for time and then end the movie.
A comic use of editing that I can think of off the top of my head is in Murder By Death, where one of the lead actors gets up and leaves the large dining room where the rest of the cast is seated. Then he returns and it is completely empty. Then he leaves to look for them and returns again, and it is full again - as if nobody had moved an inch. So he realizes that if he leaves, he needs to return twice in order to rejoin the crowd.
P.S. I enjoy Fritz Lang's movies for the aesthetic qualities, where he used framing and the geometry of people, shapes, and light in ways that nobody else really did. A perfect example is Joan Bennett's mirrored apartment in The Woman In The Window. Or the start of that movie, which showed him as a professor teaching a lecture in a classroom. There is light coming in through the side window and the venetian blinds cast a shadow over him that looks like he is in a jail cell. Little things like that. But I am getting off topic again.
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Ummmm.....
The point being?
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Curiosity.
I was wondering about this for myself, and happened to have all the resources available (am working on something related but a bit different), so I took it upon myself to find out. At the end of the day, I prefer to let the chips fall where they may, and this is how I approached this
P.S. I should also mention that I left out the Carson On TCM shorts from that..
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In my spare time I accumulated and made a table from the monthly schedules between Jan 2003 (excluding Mar 2003) and up through May 2015 (about 62,000 entries), so naturally there was an opportunity for some more analysis.
These are my results for an Air Year versus Production Year analysis. Air year is on the left, and production year is in parenthesis. Each unit on the right represents a single time slot on the monthly schedule. The 1920 cutoff and the five-year distribution points for the production years are purely arbitrary, just to make it more concise.
This is based on the monthly schedule, so some shorts will be represented and others won't. The movies are well represented here though, as well as other programming, except for episodes of MGM Parade and Now Playing.
P.S. I should also mention that I left out the Carson On TCM shorts from the results.
Enjoy. (I will see if it all makes it into one post)
2003 (1920 - 1924) = 37
2003 (1925 - 1929) = 61
2003 (1930 - 1934) = 393
2003 (1935 - 1939) = 649
2003 (1940 - 1944) = 669
2003 (1945 - 1949) = 625
2003 (1950 - 1954) = 441
2003 (1955 - 1959) = 448
2003 (1960 - 1964) = 292
2003 (1965 - 1969) = 255
2003 (1970 - 1974) = 73
2003 (1975 - 1979) = 86
2003 (1980 - 1984) = 51
2003 (1985 - 1989) = 23
2003 (1990 - 1994) = 25
2003 (1995 - 1999) = 52
2003 (2000 - 2004) = 65
2004 (1920 - 1924) = 47
2004 (1925 - 1929) = 100
2004 (1930 - 1934) = 383
2004 (1935 - 1939) = 596
2004 (1940 - 1944) = 753
2004 (1945 - 1949) = 620
2004 (1950 - 1954) = 555
2004 (1955 - 1959) = 495
2004 (1960 - 1964) = 345
2004 (1965 - 1969) = 290
2004 (1970 - 1974) = 113
2004 (1975 - 1979) = 110
2004 (1980 - 1984) = 41
2004 (1985 - 1989) = 34
2004 (1990 - 1994) = 33
2004 (1995 - 1999) = 38
2004 (2000 - 2004) = 105
2005 (1920 - 1924) = 50
2005 (1925 - 1929) = 93
2005 (1930 - 1934) = 413
2005 (1935 - 1939) = 672
2005 (1940 - 1944) = 884
2005 (1945 - 1949) = 679
2005 (1950 - 1954) = 502
2005 (1955 - 1959) = 490
2005 (1960 - 1964) = 353
2005 (1965 - 1969) = 259
2005 (1970 - 1974) = 80
2005 (1975 - 1979) = 76
2005 (1980 - 1984) = 41
2005 (1985 - 1989) = 32
2005 (1990 - 1994) = 34
2005 (1995 - 1999) = 34
2005 (2000 - 2004) = 76
2005 (2005 - 2009) = 78
2006 (1920 - 1924) = 40
2006 (1925 - 1929) = 82
2006 (1930 - 1934) = 426
2006 (1935 - 1939) = 721
2006 (1940 - 1944) = 777
2006 (1945 - 1949) = 645
2006 (1950 - 1954) = 528
2006 (1955 - 1959) = 481
2006 (1960 - 1964) = 360
2006 (1965 - 1969) = 254
2006 (1970 - 1974) = 145
2006 (1975 - 1979) = 76
2006 (1980 - 1984) = 49
2006 (1985 - 1989) = 36
2006 (1990 - 1994) = 40
2006 (1995 - 1999) = 54
2006 (2000 - 2004) = 51
2006 (2005 - 2009) = 121
2007 (1920 - 1924) = 40
2007 (1925 - 1929) = 78
2007 (1930 - 1934) = 338
2007 (1935 - 1939) = 651
2007 (1940 - 1944) = 772
2007 (1945 - 1949) = 612
2007 (1950 - 1954) = 570
2007 (1955 - 1959) = 545
2007 (1960 - 1964) = 470
2007 (1965 - 1969) = 364
2007 (1970 - 1974) = 125
2007 (1975 - 1979) = 97
2007 (1980 - 1984) = 45
2007 (1985 - 1989) = 40
2007 (1990 - 1994) = 28
2007 (1995 - 1999) = 29
2007 (2000 - 2004) = 27
2007 (2005 - 2009) = 126
2008 (1920 - 1924) = 43
2008 (1925 - 1929) = 84
2008 (1930 - 1934) = 401
2008 (1935 - 1939) = 645
2008 (1940 - 1944) = 689
2008 (1945 - 1949) = 654
2008 (1950 - 1954) = 565
2008 (1955 - 1959) = 613
2008 (1960 - 1964) = 499
2008 (1965 - 1969) = 421
2008 (1970 - 1974) = 176
2008 (1975 - 1979) = 140
2008 (1980 - 1984) = 76
2008 (1985 - 1989) = 32
2008 (1990 - 1994) = 30
2008 (1995 - 1999) = 57
2008 (2000 - 2004) = 59
2008 (2005 - 2009) = 65
2009 (1920 - 1924) = 46
2009 (1925 - 1929) = 87
2009 (1930 - 1934) = 360
2009 (1935 - 1939) = 687
2009 (1940 - 1944) = 693
2009 (1945 - 1949) = 605
2009 (1950 - 1954) = 636
2009 (1955 - 1959) = 535
2009 (1960 - 1964) = 486
2009 (1965 - 1969) = 342
2009 (1970 - 1974) = 172
2009 (1975 - 1979) = 125
2009 (1980 - 1984) = 73
2009 (1985 - 1989) = 46
2009 (1990 - 1994) = 31
2009 (1995 - 1999) = 25
2009 (2000 - 2004) = 47
2009 (2005 - 2009) = 72
2010 (1920 - 1924) = 33
2010 (1925 - 1929) = 76
2010 (1930 - 1934) = 395
2010 (1935 - 1939) = 637
2010 (1940 - 1944) = 776
2010 (1945 - 1949) = 712
2010 (1950 - 1954) = 607
2010 (1955 - 1959) = 564
2010 (1960 - 1964) = 494
2010 (1965 - 1969) = 407
2010 (1970 - 1974) = 161
2010 (1975 - 1979) = 148
2010 (1980 - 1984) = 83
2010 (1985 - 1989) = 25
2010 (1990 - 1994) = 18
2010 (1995 - 1999) = 14
2010 (2000 - 2004) = 22
2010 (2005 - 2009) = 30
2010 (2010 - 2014) = 45
2011 (1920 - 1924) = 73
2011 (1925 - 1929) = 123
2011 (1930 - 1934) = 581
2011 (1935 - 1939) = 729
2011 (1940 - 1944) = 650
2011 (1945 - 1949) = 635
2011 (1950 - 1954) = 668
2011 (1955 - 1959) = 663
2011 (1960 - 1964) = 421
2011 (1965 - 1969) = 326
2011 (1970 - 1974) = 125
2011 (1975 - 1979) = 66
2011 (1980 - 1984) = 72
2011 (1985 - 1989) = 32
2011 (1990 - 1994) = 23
2011 (1995 - 1999) = 9
2011 (2000 - 2004) = 25
2011 (2005 - 2009) = 35
2011 (2010 - 2014) = 38
2012 (1920 - 1924) = 46
2012 (1925 - 1929) = 100
2012 (1930 - 1934) = 433
2012 (1935 - 1939) = 643
2012 (1940 - 1944) = 656
2012 (1945 - 1949) = 595
2012 (1950 - 1954) = 631
2012 (1955 - 1959) = 627
2012 (1960 - 1964) = 515
2012 (1965 - 1969) = 401
2012 (1970 - 1974) = 128
2012 (1975 - 1979) = 92
2012 (1980 - 1984) = 65
2012 (1985 - 1989) = 39
2012 (1990 - 1994) = 17
2012 (1995 - 1999) = 9
2012 (2000 - 2004) = 14
2012 (2005 - 2009) = 26
2012 (2010 - 2014) = 23
2013 (1920 - 1924) = 48
2013 (1925 - 1929) = 93
2013 (1930 - 1934) = 407
2013 (1935 - 1939) = 633
2013 (1940 - 1944) = 722
2013 (1945 - 1949) = 645
2013 (1950 - 1954) = 667
2013 (1955 - 1959) = 659
2013 (1960 - 1964) = 478
2013 (1965 - 1969) = 415
2013 (1970 - 1974) = 167
2013 (1975 - 1979) = 87
2013 (1980 - 1984) = 72
2013 (1985 - 1989) = 31
2013 (1990 - 1994) = 18
2013 (1995 - 1999) = 6
2013 (2000 - 2004) = 17
2013 (2005 - 2009) = 31
2013 (2010 - 2014) = 54
2014 (1920 - 1924) = 45
2014 (1925 - 1929) = 146
2014 (1930 - 1934) = 586
2014 (1935 - 1939) = 713
2014 (1940 - 1944) = 761
2014 (1945 - 1949) = 645
2014 (1950 - 1954) = 592
2014 (1955 - 1959) = 589
2014 (1960 - 1964) = 461
2014 (1965 - 1969) = 401
2014 (1970 - 1974) = 193
2014 (1975 - 1979) = 91
2014 (1980 - 1984) = 73
2014 (1985 - 1989) = 28
2014 (1990 - 1994) = 42
2014 (1995 - 1999) = 4
2014 (2000 - 2004) = 9
2014 (2005 - 2009) = 40
2014 (2010 - 2014) = 40
2015 (1920 - 1924) = 13
2015 (1925 - 1929) = 23
2015 (1930 - 1934) = 159
2015 (1935 - 1939) = 269
2015 (1940 - 1944) = 273
2015 (1945 - 1949) = 223
2015 (1950 - 1954) = 205
2015 (1955 - 1959) = 226
2015 (1960 - 1964) = 223
2015 (1965 - 1969) = 193
2015 (1970 - 1974) = 96
2015 (1975 - 1979) = 60
2015 (1980 - 1984) = 30
2015 (1985 - 1989) = 18
2015 (1990 - 1994) = 9
2015 (1995 - 1999) = 4
2015 (2000 - 2004) = 5
2015 (2005 - 2009) = 14
2015 (2010 - 2014) = 10
2015 (2015 - 2019) = 4(end of post)
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Happened upon a preseason baseball game today being air from Florida in which the announcers braced the audience for a potential "sun related" transmission interruption event - indicating that the sun's position behind their satellite may momentarily disrupt the broadcast - BUT it never happened.
Your reply unfortunately indicates that the sun incident I observed (emergency region IX
) regarding airing of "The Captain's Kid" was indeed a shared experience. 
In another unrelated incident my live entertainment for the evening was "cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances" - the event? A concert featuring Jason Bonham, son of the late Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham - John Bonham's death resulted in my very first concert cancellation - that make's me 0 for 2 on Bonham related Zeppelin musical entertainment.
In an unrelated event, the entire movie Aerosmith, starring Ronald Colman, came in without a hitch.
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Here is a specialized website dealing with lost films of the silent era:
http://www.silentera.com/lost/index.html
The first paragraph includes the following:
"Educated guesses estimate that only 10 to 15 percent of the films made during the silent era survive today."
Thanks. I've been away from this lately, but I think this would be an interesting thing to incorporate. It doesn't matter to me what stage of recovery they are in at this point. I basically just wanted to fill in some blanks. Sound films included.
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FWIW:
Today's "SUN" issue was initiated at ~12:33pm (PT) and lasted ~7 minutes
Hopefully, ICBM missile guidance systems aren't influenced in a similar manner.
Well I finally got around to transferring that batch of files from my DVR PC to an editor PC. In any case the exact same thing happened to me in Ohio too. (FEMA region V)
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Thanks. So it was just in that one movie so far? I will scan through the stuff I recorded today when I get home tonight and post back. A gap of a few minutes would be quick and easy for me to find. It just sounds like a short-term interruption (really the only kind I have ever had with DirecTV).
I am in NEOH, so conditions may vary.
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That's an interesting one. I recorded much of what TCM had on today and yesterday, so I am sure if it affected me I will come across it as I scan through it in my editor for consistency before I archive it.
Maybe I have already seen this. How long does it last? Is it like a dropout from heavy rain?
Oh well thanks for the heads up!
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I thought this thread would be about lost films (not films never made).
A bit O/T but I'd like to know if there are any definitive resources which keep a running tab on lost movies. (older films that were not preserved and are believed to be lost)
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There’s no business like slow business
I think the people who made films in the mid-to-late 1930s knew what they were doing. The goal was not to bombard viewers with mind-boggling special effects (which are often not very special at all). Nor was the goal to over-elongate anything, but to simply entertain. And more importantly, these filmmakers knew how to get people in and out of the theatre in a reasonable amount of time and make sure they left with a smile.
My favorite special effects (by today's standards) from that time period were good background music and silence, less could be more.
It's always good to have a mission statement. Love it or hate it, filmmakers of the studio system era lived and died by their mission statements. It seems mission statements are harder for filmmakers to come by nowadays, almost as if all the good ones were taken or not interesting anymore.
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I reread my last post and realized how much I left out. It is just a big topic. Another thing the OP might be talking about is that the first digital cinemas were 2K cinemas. That is a similar resolution as our full-size HD-TVs (1920 x 1080, where 1920 = "2K"). So if you stretch that out across the area of a theater screen and sit near the front, you might be able to see pixels too. The 2K format theaters are still used today, often in smaller rooms, but newer ones are mostly 4K. A handful of rows back and most cannot even tell the difference between the two.
As far as motion goes, film works by persistence of vision. There is a shutter in both the camera and projector that stays open long enough for your to brain detect it, but not long enough for the film to advance to the next frame. So a good percentage of the film experience is spent in darkness. With video, at least the percentage of time spent in darkness is reduced, if not gone altogether, as there isn't the same guaranteed functional requirement for it. So that might have a bit to do with the OP's concerns. I don't know whether or not digital Cinema projectors attempt to emulate this, but if they did, it might cut down on perceived brightness.
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I still have some analog television sets that uses Suddenlink's DTA boxes. Have no problems, get perfect reception 1-1 to 13-1 for the regular SD network channels and 14-1 to 78-1 for cable services.
What's laughable is that people sell these on Ebay which are FREE from Suddenlink!
Hi Hamradio, since you have a DTA, and it works, do you know if they shut down the analog service in your area yet? Can you still use a "cable-ready" TV set to receive just the basic channels, or do you need that DTA for everything? In NE Ohio, ours was shut down just last Summer (only locals remain). I suspected in an earlier thread that the OP's analog was recently shut down, and the box he has probably is so old that it can no longer correctly output to an analog device. Cable system extended outside of intended DTA use perhaps?
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P.S. I forget which DTA box you said you have, but I looked on my computer and found the instruction manual for the DTA which I had. Here is somebody else's link to the instructions for that box. Take a look at the last page. Caveat: I am not sure if these settings apply to the SD (RF) output or just the HDMI (HD) output. But this is an example of a DTA where the end user can adjust the output settings.
Cisco DTA 170HD
http://www.oceanic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DTA170_SoftwareGuide.pdf
) regarding airing of "The Captain's Kid" was indeed a shared experience. 
In character with Jackie Gleason
in General Discussions
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Here is what I saw. I just remember him singing at the end of every show, and it wasn't very good singing!
http://www.jackiegleason.com/joe.html
Also here is part of a typical monologue from one of his shows. From the vertically sectioned drapes, to the crazy outfits the bandleader wore, and even some of the spoken catch-phrases, he was clearly an influence on Johnny Carson.
http://www.jackiegleason.com/video.html