Movie Collector OH
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Cool. I'll probably be getting this month's updates for my schedule project out Mon or Tues, so that will be included.
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2 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not but the soundtrack is either newly created or reconstructed based on what the pit orchestras played when it was released.
I just don't know where to begin here.
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1 hour ago, yanceycravat said:
Just a note -
These two cartoons are not premieres.
Jun 09 - MGM Cartoons: Sleepy-Time Squirrel (1954) (Not sure when this one aired but I have it in my TCM collection.)
Jun 16 - MGM Cartoons: Papa Gets the Bird (1940) - Cartoon Alley - Ep 44 (Bear Family)
Hi. Since it is a cartoon, I left it as-is (the way TCM labels it). There were the Cartoon Alley airings which I normalized to IMDB in the past all at once. So at least in that one case that leaves two sets of entries (FWIW I don't allow for that with ANY feature-length movies).
The first I don't see at all. If you actually have it, It may have run without having been listed in the past. Not unheard of for shorts on TCM.
The second I see aired back on 2007-01 & 2007-06. The real name for this, of course, was not MGM Cartoons: Papa Gets the Bird (1940). Rather it was just Papa Gets the Bird (1940). That explains how it got counted as two seperate titles.
As is usual, Shorts (< 45 min) are more prone to error as they aren't always listed on the schedule. I allow for shorts to appear on this list just in case.
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Just a test...
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3 hours ago, jimmymac71 said:
I am no expert with this movie. I might suggest using a set of headphones and listening to the YouTube clip. There are ways to download YouTube clips, convert them to audio, such as MP3, then manipulate them with audio products like Audacity. You may recall the recent "Yanni versus Laurel" audio clip. Some were able to change the results by altering the pitch or frequency equalization. Okay, I just listened on my computer, with my headphones and the voice sounds different. Beyond that, it is out of my league. Suddenly, "Wake Up Little Susie" is spinning in my head. To quote country music group Alabama, "In the corner of my mind, stands a jukebox."
There are some interesting things floating around out there, but I don't consider the "Yanni versus Laurel" audio clip to be one of them. I had the opportunity to hear this for myself, as a certain radio host seemed obsessed with it and kept playing it over and over (I soon changed the channel). I later downloaded the podcast so I could repeat this test under my own controlled conditions. As expected, I got different results for different time marks, but more importantly was able to repeat the results for each time I repeated the same time mark. So at least for me it is not so much a situation of ambiguity and selective hearing. Rather I would describe it as someone running two sources at the same time and playing around with a simple DJ-style cross-fader.
I did this with a pair of speakers which I am familiar with, and stayed in the same position throughout.
P.S. There are other possibilities, such as position-dependent phase cancellation, which could be used to alter apparent volume of different sounds in a stereo image, depending on your location between two speakers (another use, though different, is noise-cancelling headsets). Also there is the precedence effect, whereby small millisecond delays can be used to alter the apparent direction from which a sound is coming from between two speakers, though the sound is the same exact volume level from each speaker (you really need to be equidistant between two speakers for this to work).
I doubt the "Yanni versus Laurel" audio clip uses anything anywhere near this level of sopistication though.
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1 hour ago, scsu1975 said:
Welcome to the boards.
He is using double-talk (so it's gibberish). For a good example of this, watch William Demarest in All Through the Night.
That's a funny reason.
My favorite is Cliff Nazarro. Here is an insert point into a scene in "Blondie Goes To College", so you can see Nazarro do his thing in what is a rather extended take for him. (You are not imagining things, the Youtube video is mislabeled too.)
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2 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Another thing that people often forget is that many films were only released to theaters for a fairly short time and most people only saw a film once. I.e. they didn't 'rewind' the film and play a scene over and over again.
As most people know, The Maltese Falcon was Huston's initial effort as a director, and since WB had done the material twice before, with only limited success, the production wasn't a 'A' type one. E.g. Raft turned down the role of Spade because he didn't wish to be associated with a film with a first time director, hat was likely to be only an after though to the general viewing public. Oh, man was that misguided.
So I chalk this up to 'yea, that sounds funky,,,, but no one will notice,,, its a rap'.
Yeah, good point. Ordinarily I don't rewind scenes over and over like that either.
I don't know when the practice of sitting in a theater for more than one showing began. We used to do it in the 70s, still do it today if the movie's good enough or we came in late.
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It sounds to me like a different proximity effect, as in Greenstreet may be closer to the mic in the overdub session. Or maybe a different mic with a different frequency response altogether. His voice has more "presence" on the overdubbed part. (I've done audio work, so I know what it sounds like I am hearing, here.) Today in Hollywood there are people who obsess over issues like this and have more technical luxuries, so you don't notice inconsistencies like this very often. They are spoiled though, and most of them can't find their way out of a wet paper bag to make a movie like they did during the classic era.
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On 5/27/2018 at 5:35 AM, TikiSoo said:
There is no more counter-culture anymore, no more underground. It all got sucked into the Great Big Beast, once the Beast saw money could be made from it.
Exactly- the underground is mainstream, there is no such thing as unique. Every mall has a geek toy store selling collectible dolls/mugs/t-shirts.
While I can applaud children liking what their parents have exposed them to, I also very much worry the next few generations don't feel the same need to break away with their OWN voice. There is something natural about the rebelliousness of teens listening to their own music or wearing clothing their parents think is awful.
100% in agreement, and I only don't know the words to "Come On Eileen" just because I don't give a damn. That was more or less "underground" or "alternative" when it came out, and it is horrendously "establishment" today. Horrendously.
You've been holding out on us.
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1 minute ago, TopBilled said:
I love this one. Isn't there also another one with Charlie Chaplin and a violin?
Perhaps, that was a bit before my time here.
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Here's some old TCM clip art I came across while putting together my schedules project.
Robert Osborne ca. 2001
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2 hours ago, calvinnme said:
Well Robert Osborne was still alive and healthy then, so there's that!
Yes Robert Osborne was still with us.
Also there was this little merger just a few years prior that some (including Ted Turner) would like to forget about.
https://www.cnet.com/news/how-the-aol-time-warner-merger-went-so-wrong/History never repeats itself, but timelines and sequences of events can and do.
The ghost of AOL will haunt the Time Warner-AT&T deal
https://www.recode.net/2016/10/23/13369308/aol-time-warner-att-deal-historyHmm... AOL gobbled up Time/Warner (at a 55/45 stock split), then AOL died. Will the same happen to AT&T? They "think" they are future-proof, but so did AOL. Jeffrey Bewkes, presently the TW CEO, came all the way from HBO's earlier days. So up to this point TCM's operations have been overseen by a movie guy. Current plans are for him to leave after the merger. Sounds mighty swell, huh?
Also there is this from 2016:
http://www.ibtimes.com/time-warner-att-deal-will-my-bill-keep-going-2435954QuoteStill, AT&T also pledged to “innovate new advertising options” as a way to keep the costs from hitting customers, so instead of seeing prices skyrocket, you might just see a lot of ads. And, because AT&T will have access to Time Warner’s subscriber data, the ads would likely be targeted, not unlike the ones that pop up on your Facebook homepage after you’ve done some online shopping.
Great. Just keep advertising off TCM!!
Oh yeah, happy happy, and merry merry to you and yours on this Memorial Day. Nice thread by the way.
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On 5/26/2018 at 1:19 PM, Dargo said:
Actually Tom, in a manner of speaking and as I'm sure you've seen(the following video is now about 4 years old), there's this hit Bruno Mars song "Uptown Funk" which was used in place of the original music used in these various films' clips, and truth be known, I've always thought this video was very well done and quite entertaining...
(...and although I know this wasn't exactly your point here)
That's pretty neat, but they still need to colorize it.
Since you posted that, here's one that I've had around for a while. This is two songs spliced together with beat-mixing software. The brighter sounding tune which makes up the bulk of it is New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle. It also has parts from Depeche Mode - Strangelove, which has a darker sound.
This is just random clips (mostly B&W) from around the Internet that the poster admitted he cobbled together, without having any idea about. Probably some clips from some foreign titles as well. Check out the one girl in a white and red polka-dotted shirt grooving by herself - I think she kinda looks like a young Judith Durham (of The Seekers).
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23 hours ago, calvinnme said:
"Pajama Game" has been released individually on DVD and in sets of Doris Day movies from Warner Home Video. Most recently it was released in "Doris Day: The Essential Collection" in 2015. So if WB has distribution rights to it, I don't know why it is not being shown on TCM.
I don't know the story on that one either. Most Doris Day movies have been on several times by now. So I am leaning towards there actually being a reason.
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23 hours ago, midwestan said:
I'm pretty stoked to see "The Mask of Dimitrios" on the schedule for Peter Lorre's day. I've only seen it a couple of times, but I really liked it. According to MCOH's stats, it's only been shown maybe 3 times on TCM since 2001. It was the film debut for Mildred Pierce's second husband (Zachary Scott).
This one has been on the schedule 16x since 2001.
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24 minutes ago, STRM2862 said:
I Was Just Looking To See Where Tiffany Vasquez Went, I Liked Her As Well! I Read That She’s No Longer On TCM, So If You’re Reading This, @tiffanyvasquez, BEST WISHES!! You WILL Be Missed!!
When I Entered Tiffany’s Name, I Saw A Few Rude Comments, One In Particular, From 2016, When Tiffany Was New. The Particular Post I Saw Was From Someone Who Actually Said, “We Hate Her!”
Seriously?! How Truly Rude & Sad That Anyone Could “Hate,” A Person She Doesn’t Even Know!! I Know It Was 2 Yrs. Ago, and Tiffany Was New, and Most Likely, A Bit Nervous, But Those Comments Are Uncalled For!!
I Haven’t Been On the Message Boards Much, But If Comments Like Those Are Common, I Don’t Think I Want To Be Part of A Community of SOME People Who Could Make Negative Comments About People They Don’t Even Know!!
Thankfully, It Looks Like MOST Comments Are POSITIVE!! But PLEASE, Let’s ALL Think About, and Watch, What We Say About Others!!! We Have Enough,...Actually TOO MUCH Negativity, and Disagreements, In Our Country Now!! This Should Be A Positive Forum To Speak About A Mutual Love of Films!! I HOPE We Can Keep It That Way!!!
If So, It Will Be A Pleasure To Be Part of the TCM Message Board Community!!
Thanks For Letting Me Speak My Mind!!!
Again,...GOOD LUCK In All Your Endeavors, Tiffany Vasquez!! You Will Be Missed!!
Among "touchy" communities, I think you have struck gold by joining here. LOL
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14 hours ago, spence said:
To TopBilled, it now seems "IN" to dump on Edison in favor of one of his one time colleagues turned adversaries in Tesla. Do you think it has any true credence? Online they even go so far as having photos of Edison with horns & Tesla with wings (P.S. On another site people voted Tesla as the greatest American & or individual that ever lived)
I borrowed a book on Edison years ago by Robert Conot. It was divided into two main sections: Edison The Inventor, and Edison The Industrialist (or something of that nature). Basically two different books under the same spine, and that pretty much described the real Edison. He was as much a businessman as he was an inventor, and that includes being one of the early patent trolls. He was good friends with Henry Ford. Henry Ford was basically more of the same.
Tesla not so much.
Maybe it is people looking for an underdog.
I liked Thomas Edison in Spencer Tracy's "Edison The Man" very much, but don't confuse the real Thomas Edison with Spencer Tracy's Edison. They are two very different people.
About 20 or 30 years ago there was an unusual joke I heard that Albert Einstein's wife was the actual scientist, and that left poor Albert to just be an unphotogenic guy who wasn't all that smart. Not funny to me, then again I don't get off on making fun of people, especially great talent like that. As far as the foolish images on the Internet of Einstein apparently sticking his tongue out, hey it's on the Internet so it must have really happened, right?
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3 hours ago, limey said:
I think that bombshell was a little nod to the military purposes for the frequency hopping technology was intended (and ultimately used) for.
FWIW (and without getting into gender politics), I think it is quite possible for someone without specialist training to come up with the kind of idea Lamarr received a patent for, either through original out of the box thinking, or through life experience. Sometimes, it's the only way, as direct expertise in a given field can blind you from thinking beyond the doctrines of what you've been taught..
Before I came to your post, I was thinking "the absence of indoctrination". Or someone who is still able to free-associate, in spite of indoctrination. Spot on.
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5 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:
So my original count is correct. Probably a lot more films than that, since you're missing data.
I'd say though that most have had a chance to repeat by now. So most shifted to later times. To get an idea, look at the surrounding years.
I wouldn't expect that those are negatively impacting today's premieres list that much.
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5 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
I would assume the former and poor testing by QA staff (assuming there is any), to verify that a MS update didn't mess with existing functionality. This happens all the time but mostly with IE in my experience. I'm using Chrome and I'm getting the same error so maybe it was just poorly written software by those that maintain this website for TCM.
I'd say it's definitely a server-side script or package that is broken. Perhaps a bit of middleware (perhaps a plug-in or add-on module) which the "TCMbar" (most likely a custom script) runs on, and some dependencies went *poof* due to a routine update of something else. You know how that goes.
I suggest middleware since the rest of the website appears to be up. And if there is middleware, there is a chance for a time-bomb (as in trialware or shareware) - I was half kidding of course about this, but also half-serious. You really never know about me.
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5 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
I knew you would mention the 1968 TV special because that was fine and very well done, but most of those other performances with those silly costumes and with what I find to be mostly lame \ lounge act songs don't move me. Sorry just not my cup of tea and to me a lot weaker than what he did in the late 50s \ early 60s.
The overall issue I have is that the music wasn't classic standards like what Sinatra was doing (and which I love), and NOT Rock and Roll \ edgy music, or even rockabilly. Again, mostly lame \ lounge act songs. Of course Elvis' vocals were still solid because he was a great singer. THAT is what bugs me. Elvis was highly talented but to me, after those initial years, his talent wasn't utilized in a manner that I found enjoyable.
Come on, there's something to be said for those lounge acts.
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MIA Movies
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Tough Guys (1986) !!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092105/
Haven't seen this thing since the 1980s.
From memory, the two get out of jail after 25 years or so for committing a historic heist. They go their seperate ways for a while.
Lancaster meets a nice lady in an old age home. But not before he gets everyone in the dining room to loudly protest the food they are being served. Also stars Jake Steinfeld ("Body By Jake" guy from the 1980s) as an employee and nutrition expert at the old age home.
Douglas goes to a gym and meets a much younger lady. He goes shopping in a "ultra-modern" clothing store in an attempt to fit in, where the attendant is an odd 1980s hipster on a TV screen. Douglas comes out of the changing room several times dressed up like a clown. He and his new girlfriend go to a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert, where they join the crowd in the "mash pit" (this was back when the band was part of the underground punk scene, before they became a household name with their radio hits).
Of course there is the other side to the story, where they get bored with life in the 1980s. So they get back together and look up friends from their old gang, one by one, the ones they can find who are still alive. Then they plan one last heist, for old time's sake - the Gold Coast Flyer, a historic train - one of the last of its kind.
Also in the cast are Dana Carvey as their young parole officer who idolizes them so much - he finds ways to spend time with them and nearly joins forces with them, Charles Durning as the police detective who originally captured them and is watching them like a hawk after they get out, Eli Wallach as a fellow old timer (and several others from "the old gang" who they eventually get back in touch with). Also stars Alexis Smith and Darlanne Fluegel as their newly met girlfriends.
"We want REAL FOOD!!" "We want REAL FOOD!!" "We want REAL FOOD!!"
All in all not a bad flick. It is very much a product of the 80s, and in some ways the scenes with Douglas and his girlfriend make it like the 1980s edition of I Love You Alice B. Toklas.
P.S. This is early Touchstone Pictures.